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Antie lê lepel met Mugabe ...

Wed, 18 September 2002 17:12

Antie Gloudina sê:

Ek verstaan eintlik nie wat jy hier probeer
sê nie. Kan jy dit duideliker stel?
Maar ek neem aan dis weer een van jou maniere
om te klink of jy die wysheid in pag het en die
persoon wat jy aanspreek, "verkeerd" is.
Luister, as dit oor Mugabe en wandade gaan,
dan kan ek jou verseker dat hy nie kan kersvas-
hou by jou helde van die apartheids-era wat betref
grondbesettings en ethnic cleansing nie. Blykbaar
is die wit boere wat die trekpas gekry het, ook
spesiale boere wat twee plase besit het of wat
vantevore aangesê is om te beweeg. So hou nou maar
op om hierdie vuurtjie te probeer aanblaas.
Buitendien sit en pyn jy oor wat in 'n ander land
aangaan. Kyk liewer na jou eie land, en sien
hoeveel van 'n onbalans daar nog is in die grond-
eienaarskap van meeste van SA se grond, en begin
agiteer dan vir reg en regverdigheid.

Wel - tot Mandela, die ANC, die EU, VN, VSA ens. het Mugabe nou al ten
sterkste aangespreek - maar Gatvas Gloudina klou vas .....

Koeitjies & kalfies | 7 kommentare

Nie-Jollie nuus

Wed, 18 September 2002 10:50

Die boot wat olie lek by St Lucia kan nie van die sandbank gelseep word nie.
Daar is nou nie baie pikkewyne daar nie, maar ek is seker daar is ander
besondere seelewe wat gaan ly onder die ramp.
Annette

Koeitjies & kalfies | 0 kommentare

Nog Nuus

Wed, 18 September 2002 04:33

Robbie Fleck en André Venter is albei vir 1 week geskors omdat hulle
Saterdag gebaklei het.
Goed en wel.
Maar wat van die skeidsregter en beide lynregters wat glo geeneen niks
gesien het nie?
Annette

Koeitjies & kalfies | 10 kommentare

Blind Vigilantes

Tue, 17 September 2002 21:02

Blackhole lists offer dark prospects

By Bret A Fausett

New Architect
August 2002

Most of the email I receive these days is spam, yet I've never purchased
anything advertised in a piece of unsolicited commercial email. I'm not even sure
that I've ever clicked on a link sent to me in a piece of unsolicited commercial
email.

I haven't found any good method of blocking spam. Fortunately, I have a
broadband connection, so things aren't as bad as they could be. But whenever
I travel and find myself connecting via modem, I'm constantly frustrated by the
significant amount of time I have to spend downloading junk mail, which is
sometimes billed at exorbitant hotel or foreign telephone rates. So you'd think
that I'd be somewhat sympathetic to the efforts of groups that create blackhole
lists.

For those of you unfamiliar with a blackhole list, it's a list that's typically
maintained by volunteer antispam advocates. It contains the IP addresses and
domain names of certain mail servers allegedly used to send unsolicited email
messages en masse. When an Internet service provider subscribes to one or
more of the blackhole lists, any inbound email to its service originating from a
mail server on the lists is automatically rejected. The subscriber to a blackhole
list doesn't filter based on the actual content of the email, just its place of
origin, which makes this practice a fairly crude tool. It blocks all messages from
specific locations regardless of content.

Anyone who finds his or her mail server erroneously listed on a blackhole list
can usually get off the list by establishing that he or she has remedied
whatever server insecurity spammers exploited. At least that's how it works in
theory.

I don't run an insecure mail server, but mine recently found its way onto a
blackhole list. I've tried to get off the list, but to no avail. I've become just
another victim of vigilante justice on the Internet.

The Wrong Guy

One day back in March, I tried to send a friend of mine an email. It bounced. The
mail server that rejected my message sent a polite note back explaining that
the address of my mail server was now listed on its ISP's blackhole list.

Over the next two weeks, the circle of people to whom I could send email
started to shrink. Soon, even my father's email address was off-limits to me.

The primary way to get on a blackhole list is to run an open relay. For various
reasons having to do with access to networks and efforts to conceal their
identities, senders of mass unsolicited email predominantly exploit such relays.
An open relay accepts mail from anyone in the world and relays it to whomever
is listed in the address. Most mail servers aren't open relays. They accept mail
only from subscribers to that network's services, or from a set of persons
specifically identified on the server. In spite of grass roots efforts to close the
open relays, there are still more than a few of them out there.

Not Guilty

My mail server, however, was not an open relay. I have no idea who first
submitted my name to a blackhole list operator in Denmark, but sometime in
March of this year the operator added my mail server to its list. The first time
the service was used to reject a piece of my mail, the rejection came
accompanied by an explanation of why I was on the list and what I could do to
be removed from it. The explanation was that I was running an open relay. How
could I get off the list? That was simple, the message said. Close the open
relay, and send a message to the operator's server asking to be re-scanned.

Of course, as I mentioned, my mail server was never an open relay in the first
place. So in response to the rejection message I received, I asked the blackhole
list service if it would kindly re-scan my mail server and make another
determination as to whether it was an open relay. I was sure that there had
been some mistake and that on a second try, it would realize the error in its
initial judgment. Shortly after I submitted my request, I sat down to monitor my
mail logs. This time I saw the service in Denmark address my mail server. I
watched my mail server accept the message and then pass the piece of email
back to the Danish mail server. The Danish server promptly sent a message
saying that my server was still operating as an open relay.

How had it gained access to my mail server? Simple. It had forged the headers
on its email to convince my mail server that the email it sent was from a
permitted user. You see, my mail servers were set up to pass mail only from a
domain name of which I am the only user. It blocks everything else. That's not
an open relay. Unless you're a user in my domain, you can't use it.

Blocked

The group based in Denmark had pretended to be me, forged an email as
though it had come from an address that only I am authorized to use, passed it
through the mail server in my house, and then placed me on a list of people
who should be blocked from sending mail. They circulated that list around the
world. ISPs used by my friends and family here the United States subscribed to
this list. Now, through no fault of my own—and in fact because of the trickery of
Danish email activists—I was no longer able to send email to many people in my
address book.

It's hard to describe how angry this made me. The Danish consortium had lied
about their identity, and I was paying for it.

The worst thing about being blacklisted, however, wasn't that I could no longer
send email, but that spammers began actively trying to use my mail server to
send their spam. You see, blackhole lists work both ways. ISPs use it to block
traffic, but as I've recently discovered, the spammers themselves use the lists
as a kind of directory of servers to use for sending their mail.

If you look at my mail server logs, you'll see that every few seconds or so,
someone, somewhere tries to access my mail server and use it to send mail.
Each time, without fail, my mail server declines the request and refuses to relay
the requested message. It isn't an open relay. It's just doing its job. But my
machine is bombarded with requests from all over the world from spammers
seeking to use its minimal capabilities to send their penis enlarging, breast
enhancing, get-rich-quick messages.

My Rights

But, hey, I'm a lawyer, right? I'm supposed to be able to solve this kind of
dilemma. And there are a few things I could do.

For one, the Danish antispam organization falsified an email header to gain
access to my mail server. Illegal access to a computer system is, if not a criminal
violation, then a trespass on my private property. As I've discussed previously
in this space, one of the novel legal theories now catching on for these kinds of
unacceptable accesses to computer systems is a centuries-old tort called
"trespass to chattels." At a minimum, I ought to be able to sue the Danish
company for the damage it caused me from its illegal access.

Granted, the damage caused by my inability to send an email is likely not
terribly significant. You can always pick up the phone, print the message out,
and fax it or mail itÉor just use a different mail server. But in spite of all that, I
could probably get an injunction, or least a dollar or two to compensate me for
my injuries and establish that I have been wronged.

The problem, of course, is that the loose organization of individuals who
compiled the blackhole list is based in Denmark. Who knows whether the
organization is a real legal entity or just some name cooked up by a group of
self righteous individuals. However, they do have a domain name, and an IP
address, and they circulate their work to ISPs around the world. In other words,
there is a group for me to sue. But taking legal action on foreign entities is
difficult. I would have to translate my legal documents into Danish. I would have
to hire someone in Denmark to personally deliver these translated documents
to the entity that I would be suing. That costs time and money.

But I could sue them here in Los Angeles, California, that much I know. By
sending their forged email through my mail server, which is located in my den in
Los Angeles, they fulfilled certain California legal requirements that would let me
sue them here. The connection to Los Angeles is also bolstered by the fact that
I live here and my injury was suffered here.

Of course, all of this is starting to sound like the kind of hypothetical legal
conundrum that you might find on a law school exam. Problems like mine often
remain hypothetical because the expense of bringing them to trial is so great,
and the ability to gain any monetary relief from lawsuits is minimal. That's why
the black hole providers have been able to get away with their vigilante justice
for so long. For any individual user wronged by their efforts—and from what I
understand, there are a lot of people in similar situations—the costs of pursuing
these organizations, which are often located overseas, is too great. These
groups of volunteer organizations have no assets to speak of—they are
volunteers after all—and plaintiffs' lawyers are hesitant to take a case without
the prospect of a lucrative damages judgment.

The Case

Before you think that this is all just about me and the fact that my father no
longer receives any email from me, there are bigger policy implications for
private individuals and companies that take steps to block connectivity. Much
bigger.

I've long championed the idea that the Internet should remain largely
unregulated by governments. But at the same time, any private operator at an
end point in the Internet's architecture can restrict the flow of content to a user.
What's wonderful about the Internet is that it enables end-to-end
communication from anywhere in the world to anywhere in the world. For all of
the problems caused by spam, email is still the most widely used application on
the Internet. So the idea that private parties could get ISPs to block some
people from talking to other people should be deeply troublesome.

The Danish blackhole list operators want to block access to computers that
might be used for spam, but it's easy to imagine blacklists used for less noble
purposes. For example, imagine that the RIAA compiled a list of IP addresses
which, it contended, had at some time used peer-to-peer file sharing programs.
Because these peer-to-peer systems could transmit copyrighted materials in a
way that infringes on the copyright owner's rights, the RIAA could argue, those
IP addresses should be blocked. It isn't difficult to imagine that the RIAA could
pressure a sufficient number of ISPs into subscribing to this copyright blackhole
list and blocking access to their users, or to any traffic emanating from them.

Breaking end-to-end connectivity for any application, whether email or
peer-to-peer or the Web, threatens the very thing that makes the Internet
valuable. These are matters of principle. Which reminds me— I have a lawsuit to
file.

Bret is an intellectual property and Internet attorney with Hancock, Rothert &
Bunshoft. You can reach him at br...@lextext.com.

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Koeitjies & kalfies | 0 kommentare

Nuus 17/9

Tue, 17 September 2002 13:10

Iemand het vandag by Wonderboon 'n Cessna ( sp?) ligte vliegtuig gesteel.
Die dief het nie gekyk of daar genoeg brandstof in was nie, en moes toe 'n
noodlanding op die snelweg naby Bronkhorstsptruit doen - heel suksesvol,
want hy kon toe weghardloop na die landing.
Dink julle dit is Osama se volgende spannetjie terries wat hier kom
oefen?:)))
Annette

Nuus | 5 kommentare

Re: Zimbabwe interview on Africa to Africa channel 16 September 2002

Tue, 17 September 2002 11:02

Kan ek jou 'n guns vra?

Moet asseblief nie Engelse berigte met kruisposte op hierdie ng pos nie.
As jy voel dis relevant genoeg om ook hier te pos, doen dit met 'n
aparte boodskap (en verkieslik 'n kort verduideliking hoekom jy in
Engels pos)

As jy bloot kruispos, kry ons al die weirdo's van soc.culture.south-africa
se reaksies hierso, en ons het reeds genoeg weirdo's op hierdie ng. :-)
En hulle kry dan ook ons Afrikaanse reaksies.

Dankie

Wouter

"I. Hate Telkom" skryf in boodskap news:3d86e7e3.0@news1.mweb.co.za...
I don't know the programme on Africa to Africa the DSTV channel, but the
lady (South African woman) interviewed a government official from Zimbabwe
and were discussing the land reform and somehow or another got onto the
topic of why the land grabs started only now.

The government official (I think he is a minister of some sort) then replied
vehemently that people should stop saying that Zimbabwe got its independence
in the early 1980's when in fact it got true independence when the Apartheid
government lost power in 1989 when the ANC started coming to the fore. He
openly admitted their fear that if they did what they are doing today before
1989 the South African apartheid government would simply have arrested
Robert Mugabe and imprisoned him.

It is an interesting look at the stabilizing (counter to common belief)
effect the Apartheid government had. I will never condone the existence of
Apartheid, but at least it kept Zim afloat for a while until Bob got free
reign...

It is funny in a sad sort of way.

Regards

Koeitjies & kalfies | 65 kommentare

'n Vrou se belangrikste bate ....

Mon, 16 September 2002 17:26

Dis haar reputasie.
Ek verstaan Ilse-Mari se bynaam is "Easy Marie" - het haar ma haar nooit
vertel wat 'n vrou se belangrikste bate is nie ....

Koeitjies & kalfies | 9 kommentare

Nie so jollie nie

Mon, 16 September 2002 17:11

Die Jolly Rubino lek olie in die see by St Lucia.
Houers met giftige gasse begin ook nou uitspoel.
Daar word nou gepoog om die skip weer seewardig te kry voordat die volgende
storm meer skade kan aanrig, en gevolglik meer ekologiese skade kan
veroorsaak.
Annette

Koeitjies & kalfies | 0 kommentare

Skouspel! 2002

Mon, 16 September 2002 16:31

Was toe by SonStad op 7/9 - en toe vang Yvonne Chaka Chaka toe die meeste
shaain met haar vertolking van Al lê die Berge Nog so Blou. Sy kan glo al 11
landstale praat.
Annette

Koeitjies & kalfies | 2 kommentare

Ons is 'n A-kandidaat land

Mon, 16 September 2002 16:17

Volgens ekonome Louis Fourie en Mike Schussler, en ekonomiese ontleder JP
Landman is ons nie 'n eerstewêreld land nie, maar eersteklas.
80% vir demokrasie en spraakvryheid ( 20% in 1985)
80% vir makro-ekonomiese beleid ( 40% in 1985)
80% vir oop ekonomie ( 30% in 1985)
80% vir betroubare finansiële stelsel ( 50% in 1985)
80% vir gesondheid van die sakebedryf ( 50% in 1985)
40% vir algemene welstand van die bevolking ( 40% in 1985)
50% vir onderwys ( 40% in 1985)
40% vir wetstoepassing ( 50% in 1985)
30% vir nasionale eensgesindheid ( 30% in 1985)

Ons produktiwiteit het groei die afgelope 5 jaar met 4 - 6%, teenoor die VSA
se 2-3%
Die BMW's wat hier vervaardig en uitgevoer word is van die hoogste gehalte
SA voer nou 6 keer meer goedere uit as 10 jaar gelede
( o.m. olyfolie, wyn, skoene en hemde)
Tydens die wêreldwye resessie van die laaste jaar het ons na China die
grootste nywerheidsgroei getoon
SA het die afgelope 4 jaar uitvoergewys selfs beter vertoon as Japan in sy
bloeityd in die 50- en 60ger jare.
Die reuse toename in die uitvoer van fabrieksgoede maak ons nie meer
afhanklik van landbou- en mynbou nie.
Waar een uit elke 5 werkers in die formele sektor die afgelope 12 jaar hul
werk verloor het, het die informele sektor met meer as 100% gegroei.
Ons staatskuld daal, en ons begrotingstekort is selfs kleiner as enige van
die wêreld se 7 groot ekonomië, Amerika uitgesluit.
Ons het nou 'n vaste ekonomiese groei van 3 %.
Ons mense moet net meer geloof in onsself en ons vermoëns kry.
Ons onderwysstelsel het nie tred gehou met die ekonomiese vaardighede wat
vereis word nie.
Slegs 7% van skoolverlaters kan hier werk kry.
Mense moet hulle nie meer aan slegs een beroep verbind nie, en sorg dat hul
vaardighede met die ekonomiese veranderinge tred hou.
Private inisiatief is 'n sleutelwoord as ons SA op die wenpad wil hou.
Ons moet leer om meer vir mekaar om te gee.
Ons word van kleinsdag geleer om respek selektief toe te pas, en die
gewoonte moet verander word.
Ons moet 'n ware trots hê op ons land en sy mense.

Natuurlik is ek!! My span het dan Saterdag gewen! Vrystaaaaaaat!!!:))

Annette

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