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Hoezit!

Di., 22 Mei 2001 13:27

Hallo almal!

Wou net sê dat ek van die boodskappe hier interesant vind. Ek neem aan daar
is heelwat Hollanders wat saam gesels en 'n paar van ander lande. Altyd goed
om uitlanders se opinie te hoor!

Ek het al gewonder of ek nie S.A. moet verlaat en by my vriende in Engeland
of my suster in New Zealand te bly nie. Maar dan is daar winter dae soos
vandag. Nie 'n wolkie in die lug nie, lae twintig grade en geen wind.
Perfek! Waar in die wereld kan mens sulke weer in die winter geniet?

Nee wat, selfs met sy swak geld eenheid, slaggate en misdade bly dit die
land vir my.

Hou die blink kant bo (en die stink kant onder!)

Groete
Donald
(Die 26 jarige, enkel "ingelsman" wat in Vereeniging bly) :o)

Koeitjies & kalfies | 16 kommentare

Vraagje (tjie)

Di., 22 Mei 2001 08:33

Wat mij verbaast is dat ZA pas in 1976 televisie heeft
gekregen.....Hoekom??? Welke reden....

Grt Emmy

Koeitjies & kalfies | 38 kommentare

Hoekom so kwaai?

Ma., 21 Mei 2001 23:34

Julle ken mos almal die Pokemon reeks?

Het julle gehoor dat daar nou 'n nuwe Swart karakter sy verskyning gemaak
het? Hulle noem hom Fillemon!

Koeitjies & kalfies | 3 kommentare

Re: "Ek voel sexy" deur D.J. OPPERMAN

Ma., 21 Mei 2001 17:31

Okay, maar net omdat jy 'n vrou is...

> en suig aan druppels dat sy vol uitdy
> van pitstring uit, en albei heupe en haar romp

Sulke sinnetjies sit my mind in 'n ander gear... As ek die gedig lees as
'n boom, is dit 'n ander storie...

Christene mag maar eroties wees!!! (Gelukkig!!!)

Dankie dat jy jou gedagtes deel, ek word net wyser!!! Tog jammer dat
mens op skool geleer om gedigte volgens sallabus te ontleed... Dan vra
hulle jou: Wat dink jy van... en merk die antwoord verkeerd!!!
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skryf in boodskap news:3B081B75.AF99466D@home.com...
Max wrote:

> Net toe ek dog ek kan die Waatlemoen verteer kom jy met nóg een!!! Sou
> kon deurgaan as erotiese gedigte! Het Opperman een of ander reputasie
> daarvoor? Dat ek alles 100% begryp, sê ek nie!

Ek sou nie die gedig as "eroties" beskou nie. Onthou dit is een vandie
sonnette uit die kroniek van KRISTIEN ( > Christen). Kristien
moet op die eerste vlak gesien word as 'n vrou wat dien, en wat
haar liggaam en gees aanbied as voedsel en materiaal om gebruik
te word deur die mense om haar.
Hierdie gedig is egter baie kompleks. Mens moet dit op baie
vlakke lees. Wat bedoel Opperman byvoorbeeld deur haar te
laat stilstaan tussen die papajabome, totdat sy wortelskiet ( dus soos
hulle word). Hy gebruik die feit dat papajabome mannetjies-
bome en wyfie-bome is, baie effektief om die spanning tussen
liggaam en gees by die mens uit te beeld. Sy praat oor die
Groen Wind waarin gedans kan word "sonder om te roer"
is baie diep. Ek glo hy praat hier van diep geestelike dinge,
as mens net bietjie daaroor wil nadink. Maar in die amper
surrealistiese einde dink ek hy praat ook spesifiek van die
vrou as baie komplekse wese en van die spanning tussen
die manlike en vroulike, tussen aktiefheid en passiwiteit,
tussen lei en volg.
En nee, ek dink nie Opperman het 'n reputasie as ladies
man gehad nie. Die eer kom NP van Wyk toe. Wat wel
tragies was van Opperman is dat hy later in alkoholisme
verval het, wat jammer was, want sonder twyfel is hy die
beste digter wat Afrikaans nog ooit gehad het.

Gloudina
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> PAPAJABOS
> (Uit "Kroniek van Kristien")
> D. J. Opperman
>
> Tussen die papajabome onder 'n geel maan
> het sy die heelnag in 'n skyndood stil gestaan
> met oë toe en sywaarts uitgestrek...
> In die vroeë dou voel sy haar tone langer rek
> en ondergronds rondkronkel; toonhare sprei
> en suig aan druppels dat sy vol uitdy
> van pitstring uit, en albei heupe en haar romp
> wring smal weg in 'n gladde gryswit stomp,
> terwyl die netwerk van haar skouerare
> swel langs kaal arms af tot by die blare
> waar sy oorbuig met twee ryp papajas.
> Toe prewel sy haar preek: "Al is ons vas
> as mannetjies en wyfies tussen grond en lug
> ewig in die spel gevange van bevrug,
> is daar 'n Groen Wind wat so vervoer
> dat ons kan losdans sonder om te roer" ...
> Sy sien die ou man met die byl aanstap
> en onder aan die stam begin hy kap en kap
> totdat die boom meteens uitskree
> en aan die vrou geboorte gee...

Prosa & poësie | 1 kommentaar

Re: Archives: May 21, 1901

Ma., 21 Mei 2001 16:17

Ek wonder hoeveel boere gaan deesdae oor die Oranje, Kaap toe?
__________________________________________________________
skryf in boodskap news:3B092A0A.7A57B717@home.com...
> On May 21, 1901 the Globe and Mail reported
> that in South Africa 800 Boers crossed the Orange
> River into the Cape Colony.
>

Koeitjies & kalfies | 0 kommentare

Re: New page

Ma., 21 Mei 2001 16:01

"DK" schreef...
> http://home.wanadoo.nl/ak2000

Dolf, je hebt een aardige homepage, maar ik wil er toch even op wijzen dat
het promoten van je site op deze wijze -door enkel een adres te geven en
verder niks- volledig indruist tegen de nettiquette. Het is veel netter om
even in enkele zinnen uit te leggen waarom iemand op de link moet klikken
(wat er te vinden is) en hem of haar daarmee de keuze te geven om dat al dan
niet te doen.

Groeten,
Arthur

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Ongeletterdheid

Ma., 21 Mei 2001 15:19

Ek is op soek na leesstof / navorsing wat gedoen is oor die wêreld van die
ongeletterde. My soektog tot op hede plaaslik (Tuks/RAU/Unisa) het tot op
hede niks opgelewer nie. Help asseblief...

Koeitjies & kalfies | 5 kommentare

Swart Rassime of net bietjie Kritiek?

Ma., 21 Mei 2001 11:46

Hierdie artikel was in die Mail& Gaurdian.
Na aanleiding van die Volksfront se klag indiening dat hierdie
artikel rassites is teenoor die Afrikaner kan mens tog net wonder wat die
reaksie sou wees as die rolle hier omgeruil was.
Is dit rassties of is ons maar net bietjie fyn gevoelig?

http://www.mg.co.za/mg/art/music/0104/010420-karoo.html

Arts festival or Boerfest?
The producer of the magazine Hei Voetsek, Zebulon Dread, visited Oudtshoorn
at festival time only to run in horror from what he found on the town
streets.

t was the fifth consecutive year that I had loudly, brazenly and quite
crazily taken it upon myself to go into the heartland of the enemy - the
Klein Karoo Nasionale Kunstefees. To raise the hackles, the roof and the
enemy's ire through ribaldry and satire. To try to make somebody understand
that the course of history has changed.I wanted to make them laugh by using
their own language with such succinct and lyrical nuance that they would
stand awed by this kaffir who spoke Afrikaans better than most of them could
ever dream of.

They stood, awed and amazed, by this obese, flatulent and bombastic Hotnot
who did not mind telling them that from now on they were to call him
baaskaffir or else he would use his spear, carried along for all to see, to
pierce their thick-skinned buffalo hides.

They fled with their children when I, with demonstrative verbosity, used the
Cape lingua franca to the extreme by telling them that they were naaiers
(fuckers), fokken dom konte (fucking stupid cunts), varkvretende
(pig-eating) honkies and a bunch of deluded idiots for thinking that Brother
Jesus even took the time to listen to meat-eating beasts who cared more for
their pit bull terriers than they did for their fellow black humans.

The lyrical nuance of my writer-enabled Afrikaans had some of them drawing
their children close to listen to how one should speak the language, only to
drag them away forcefully when I wilfully swept into the "12th" official
language - that good old Cape lingua franca with all its concomitant swear
words.

Thick-skinned, cellulite-ridden and varicose-veined tannies would routinely
mutter their "Sies! Sies!", only for me to berate them for not saying
"Sies!" when they and their husbands perpetrated the apartheid wars against
the nation. Icy glares from double-thighed, double-chinned and
double-stomached males were met with sheer arrogance and a fearlessness that
scared the carcasses in their overfed bellies as I would scream, for all to
hear, that there they were again, the volk, the fokken volk, eating,
drinking and talking kak (shit) as only they could.I would walk through
their eating areas, like Hap en Tap, where one could buy a cardboard box
filled with steak, sausage, kerriemaalvleis (curried mince), roosterbrood
(toast), offal, beer, beer and more beer - hence Hap (bite) and Tap
(drink) - and vilify them for coming to an "arts" festival and yet sit
around all day and vreet, vreet, suip, suip (eat, eat, drink, drink), while
all the time cajoling them to buy one Hei Voetsek, the ultimate item in
obnoxious humour.

It was always the coup de grâce to witness their intrigue swell to such a
level that they, even against their better knowledge, would fork out the R10
and take with them a Hei Voetsek, not knowing what to expect. The cover of
my magazine has a picture of myself - a giant, superimposed, black,
dreadlocked man - stepping over Table Mountain with a humongous penis being
upheld by military helicopters. A side caption reads: "Hei djy Cape Town,
your European imitation ma se poes, otherwise Holland se fokken moer." I had
them in paroxysms of distress as I paraded it blatantly through the streets.

One tannie bravely took it upon herself to berate me in front of a large
crowd only to be insultingly told the festival wasn't her kitchen and I not
her meid. I've taken up war with Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging-looking types,
challenging them to a fight upon which I'd threaten to "toor julle swart
[bewitch and turn them black]" or to use my witchcraft and remove their
pencil-thin penises.

Often they'd laugh uproariously and throw back ribaldry, playing along with
my devil's advocacy. Sometimes it was fun. Actually, it used to be great
fun, but halfway through this year's festival I threw in the towel and left,
never to return again.

It was an e.tv journalist who asked me what the motivation was for my coming
every year and while thinking and searching for an answer, I began to ask
myself the same question. What was I doing giving street credibility to a
festival that had, over the years, advanced little beyond the mundane
middle-class mediocrity that personifies the Afrikaner and his viewpoint of
the arts? My black face would find itself plastered in many media giving the
notion, maybe, of some inclusivity, whereas, if truth be told, there is
practically none.

This is a festival that demands that Afrikaans is spoken by everyone from
traders to artists and street urchins performing woeful Christian songs. I
myself engaged fully in this Afrikaans, though in the form of cultural
terror, until I felt the chains of neocolonisation pulling too tight at my
throat. I was playing into their hands, giving their language credibility
beyond what it really deserves.

I questioned Nelson Mandela's coming here! What was he doing overstretching
the hand of reconciliation to those who had, have, no notion of ever
reconciling with their African nationhood? Is reconciliation going to remain
just an old man's sentiment or will these people ever change their
behaviour?

I was in the toilet when some young bucks entered and one asked the other if
he had seen that "fokken kaffir" with his naked body on the cover of that
magazine, when I shouted, "You naai, that fokken kaffir is sitting here,"
upon which they fled. I witnessed the "sies" tannies remonstrating with
coloured people drinking in public ("Julle moenie hier drink nie [you
mustn't drink here]") while all over the town their young bucks were walking
with their beer, wine and spirits getting pissed and very irritating and no
one said a word.

It can be said, with impunity, that these young bucks saw little of the
artistic fare and came primarily for the drinking binge these festivals
allow in the name of art.

I saw the anger of the coloured beggars who this year stole to their hearts'
content after years of simply watching their town being invaded by an
avalanche of Boer arrogance. I saw the coming of the Christian train and
their particular brand of religious oppression - what are they doing at an
arts festival? - and the banal fare put out by the Afrikaanse Taal en
Kultuurvereniging with never a black face on stage.

As for being a national arts festival, please, think again before using that
term so loosely. It is an Afrikaner Boerfest, a tannie and oompie affair at
best.

Breyten Breytenbach summed it up very succinctly when he said that the
festival is "die bont begrafnis van die Afrikaner [the motley graveyard of
the Afrikaner]".

He was one voice with the ability to perform, one who spoke the true colours
of art. And what did he get? People leaving his shows were not capable of
accessing his talent.

Yes, it is a graveyard and one that I shall not visit again, for truly, in
my opinion, these people are going to take ages to grow and I've lost
patience with their vulgarity. Enough is enough.

What about street theatre and its survival amid the monstrosity and banality
of Huisgenoot, radiosondergrense, Sarie and every conceivable marketing
idiot plastering the streets with the vulgar sounds of Dozi to a point where
the damnable noise is everywhere? Is anyone out there thinking?

Arts festival? Sarie? Rooi Rose? Die Burger? Naspers? These are the bastions
of Afrikaner mediocrity raping and pillaging what could have evolved into
some semblance of discovery for the volk. But it is just another piece of
their own brand of banality, making a senile volk even more so.

It was Breytenbach, again, who rallied against the penkwakke (fatuous hacks
or so-called arts journalists) who fed the volk more froth with their
inability to reflect the truth and scope of the arts. What, he wanted to
know, are their qualifications? What indeed?

All hats off to the Marthinus Bassons, the survivors and activists, who
continually give the volk something to think about, who try to embellish
this boerewors parade with something of an intellectual quality beyond the
petty, miscellaneous froth called "dramatic art".

This is not a national arts festival and never was. I for one feel emptied
of my effort and drained by those oxygen thieves who take so much, yet offer
so little back to artists who need the challenge that allows them to
continue their forays into the mind.

The rape will undoubtedly continue, but how many true artists will remain
standing?

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India

Ma., 21 Mei 2001 10:51

type bij
google ( erg goede zoekmachine ) in

India jesus dan krijg je de Engelse sites

Type je india jezus dan krijg je de NL sites

Grt Emmy

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Makietie in London

Ma., 21 Mei 2001 06:40

Hierdie komende naweek groot dinge by London South Bank.SAT.
Toegang gratis. Volstruisboudjies, Springbokburgers, kerrie van die Kaap te
proe.
( Hoop daar is melktert ook)
Die musiek blyk etnies te wees - so moenie verwag om te veel Afrikaanse
musiek te hoor nie.
Ek is egter seker daar sal baie Afrikaans gepraat word.
--
ann...@ctnet.co.za
Red wine lover.

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