Seker amper 'n jaar dat ek laas hier iets geskryf het. Laas een keer het ek
verhaal oor hoe ons hier in Pennsylvania in vrede woon, sonder vrees en
sonder misdaad, nadat ons (my gesin en ek) herhaaldelik in Monumentpark,
Pretoria, misdaadslagoffers was. Ek onthou Ferdi Greyling se snedige
kommentaar en sy hoogheilige verhaaltjie van hoe rustig hy self in
Johannesburg iewers woon. En elke keer, wanneer ek (en ander ook) iets hier
gepubliseer het oor hoe ek met my hele hart en siel verlang na Suid-Afrika,
oor hoe ek liewer in Pretoria wil wees as in Pennsylvanie, maar heo ter
wille van my vrou en kinders se veiligheid hierheen gekom het, was Gloudina
en Ferdi die eerstes om vernietigende en verkleinerende kommentaar te lewer.
Etikette soos apartheidsvark word lustig om mense se nekke gehang. Ferdi se
onfeilbare optimisme het, in die beste tradisie van 'n spin doctor, elke
insident, elke statistiek - alles - omgekeer en aangebied as 'n verbetering
op die "ou" Suid-Afrka. As hy geen ander argument meer oorgehad het nie, was
dit sy eie waarnemings wat die feite volgens Ferdi moes staaf.
Beledigende kommentaar soos chicken run, en pynvolle uitsprake soos Madiba
se "good riddance" aan almal wat Suid-Afrika tydelik of permanent verlaat
het sny diep en maak seer. Ike Nzo praat van die cliche dat as jy nie self
onder misdaad gely het nie, dan ken jy iemand wat dit beleef het. Dat dit al
'n cliche moes word! Ons het drie inbrake beleef, vier keer is by ons motors
ingebreek, een keer het my vrou op 'n nippertjie 'n kapingslagoffer in ons
eie inrit geword, ons het minstens nog drie inbreekpogings gefnuik, en
uiteindelik het ons ons met ysterhekke en elektroniese dieafalarms in ons
eie huis in Monumentpark moes inperk terwyl misdadigers vrylik rondbeweeg.
En nou? 'n Hele ruk lank is hulle - Gloudina en Ferdi - al stillerig.
Ignoreer alles wat nie in hulle opvatting pas nie. Want alles is mos maar
die skuld van middeljarige wit Afrikanermans. Niemand anders kan skuld dra
nie. Swartes is nie rassiste of misdadigers nie, en wee die een wat so iets
suggereer.
En toe kom die brief van Ike Nzo in die naweek se Sunday Times. Nou is daar
dawerende stilte. Ike sê - veel beter as wat ek ooit kon - dat dit gewoon
misdaad is, misdaad in al sy vorme, wat mense uit Suid-Afrika dryf. Selfs al
amper vir hom. En Ike is swart, en Ike het 'n onbesproke afkoms. Maar selfs
Ike sê 'I've got to end the nightmares', en nog veel meer.
Post traumatiese stressindrrom is nie 'n maklike probleem om te hanteer of
te bowe te kom nie. Nie dat Gloudina of Ferdi dit sal verstaan, of 'n hand
sal uitsteek om ander te help om dit te bowe te kom nie.
Een van twee dinge gaan gebeur. Hulle sal albei die stilswye bewaar, want
hulle kan nie regtig iets sê oor dit wat Ike sê nie. Of anders gaan hulle
weer die een of ander "spin" op die storie sit en dit omdraai om by hulle
eie beeld in te pas.
Maar raai wat? Ek gee nie 'n flenter om nie. Hulle en almal soos hulle kan
maar sê wat hulle wil. Iemand het eindelik die moed gehad om die waarheid by
sy naam te noem, en dit aan die wêreld te verkondig.
Dankie, Ike. My hart gaan uit na jou en na jou pasiënte, wat veel, veel
erger as ek gely het onder misdaad. My hart krimp ineen omdat my dogter en
haar man nog in Pretoria woon, en die res van my familie en my vrou se
familie nog in Suid-Afrika woon, versrpei van noord tot suid en tot in
Namibië, en nie kan of wil trek nie.
Henry in Pennsylvania.
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'Criminals are going to cost this country much more than apartheid did'
'After collecting everything, criminals took a nurse and her daughter into
separate bedrooms and raped them. The loss of the items was painful enough,
but the nurse said the pain of being raped while her daughter was also being
raped was hard to bear'
'A police officer tells me he is scared to answer distress calls in the
township because he might be confronted by heavily armed criminals. A
colleague and close friend of his was shot dead under such circumstances'
'My son and two friends were riding their bikes last year. They were
confronted by gunmen who wanted to take their bikes away. . . It is painful
to recall the bizarre behaviour of my son at home'
'When I go to work on Sundays, I see people smartly dressed to go to church.
Sometimes I wonder if, after the service, somebody around the corner offers
them a stolen item at a bargain price, they won't hesitate to buy it'
Baie jong Suid-Afrikaners studeer tans in London.
As jy hier studeer mag jy 20 uur n week werk.
Baie werk langer as dit alhoewel dit dan onwettig is.
Hierdie mense registreer jou in London vir n kursus. http://www.studyuk.org.uk/
Vir dié van julle wat onthou van die 'skoolmeisie' wat by Jack se
rekenaarwinkel gevra het dat hy vir haar 'n kopié van 'n playstation
CD maak... hy's gister beboet...R30,000.
ek wonner wat sê oom stief sweetnie nou antie. antie onthou mos laas toe hy
so moer gepluk het oorie diasse wat getoitoi het. nou sê my pa oorle oom
alfred&zo se seun wat 'n siegiejater is het 'n brief virrie sandei taaims
geskryf. oom aaik&zo sê lat hy dit nou nie meer kan vat om te sien hoe lat
die mense om hom saffer vannie misdadigeit nie antie. hy sê hille kry
merries innie nagte en dan moet hy weer pirbeer om hille koppe reg te
smokkel antie.
ma' oom aaik sê wat erger is is lat hy nou self in die nagte op daai merries
beginte ry. hy sê dis nou so erg lat hy hy dit oor weeg om liewerster op 'n
hings te klim en weer landyt te ry soos wat hy laas gemaak het oor apaathyd.
hy sê die misdadigeit maak nou meer skare as apaathyd.
oom hansie vannie pênnelbieters sê oom stief gaan 'n gêskit blaas as hy die
sandei taaims lees want die keer sal hy nie oom aaik kan beskillig lat hy yt
'n poesiesie van bevoorregting praat nie. en oom stief se statjoustieke
waarop hy 'n vermoorde torium op gehad het wys hoeka laas week lat dit erger
geword het vanlat hy minister van misdadigheid geword het.
my pa sê ja dit moet swaar vir oom stief wees lat dit so yt eie geledere kom
viral so kort oppie hakke vannie klomp plotte. en oom taboe het hoeka
annerdag 'n resitasie innie parloument opgesê waarin hy gesê het die senters
kannie hou nie.
dis wat ek ok sê antie want saterdag speel breytentjie hille teen napoleon
se vreemde legijoen en ek dink ôk nie ons senters gaan hou vanlat herrie die
strandloper vir deontjie keiser hys toe gestier het nie. my pa sê dis 'n
bleddie skande want deontjie is die enigste ou wat vir jouna loumoe kan
têkkel. oom hansie sê ma' loumoe speel nie eers virrie legijoen nie. my pas
sê dit isso loumoe speel okkie eers meer virrie ôl blêks nie ma' oom hansie
moet nou nie kom wys lat hy niks van rakbie af weetie.
koebaai antie (moenie lat antie se senters 'n gêskit loop blaas innie
vreemde nie)
Leuce:
Ek nooi enige iemand met 'n webwerf van enigsins verband hou met rekenaars
of die internet om die werf aan my (ofte wel aan die Open Directory Project)
te "submit" by http://dmoz.org/World/Afrikaans/Rekenaars/. Maar dit moet in
Afrikaans wees. Dit kan kommersieel wees of persoonlik, en dit kan oor
enige iets handel wat te doen het met rekenaars en die internet. Of as jy
van een weet wat ek nog nie gesien het nie, kom vertel my daarvan.
Ek het haar toe in die hande gekry. Klink vir my na nog 'n egte Afrikaner.
Ek het klaar my opinie oor haar verander. Ek pos haar antwoord.
"Hey Sakkie...
Dis mos soos om met familie te baklei...jy praat nie uit die huis uit nie,
in die huis gil en skop en baklei jy..Ek raak soms baie emosioneel - en
veralgemeen om 'n punt te probeer oor bring. Maar ek skeer nie alle
Afrikaners oor dieselfde kam nie, dit kan ek jou verseker, dis mos my roots
en my familie en vriende en die wonderlike mense wat reageer op die
kyties...wat ek die meeste van afrikaners waardeer, is dat ons dink oor
dinge, en dat dit saak maak - of dit nou politiek of familie of braais is,
ons voel sterk daaroor en dis hartsdinge..stuur gerus vir my jou opinies, ek
is altyd oop vir 'n mindchange.
Kan jy so gaaf wees om vir my die inligting te kry ivm met Adams Mission?
Wanneer is dit begin?
Gloudina het dit miskien gegee, maar ek het dit nie gekry nie.
Kan nie iets by die biblioteek kry nie.- sal iemand by die hoofbiblioteek
moet vra - maar miskien wil sy weet of ek Eva is:))
As jy nie die paar myl wil afdraf soontoe nie, bel maar - ek sal vir jou 'n
langtiekie aanstuur:)))
Dankie Krokkie,
Ek het die storie oor die radio gehoor vanoggend - en onmiddelik gewonder -
as dieselfde toets deur dieselfde Amerikaners in Amerika gedoen sou word -
wat die uitslae sou wees?
Ek dink nie veel verskillend nie. - veral nie wat die saameet betref nie:))
Ek meen - ek kyk rolprente hier, so ek weet wat daar aangaan:))
--
Groetnis,
Annette. ann...@ctnet.co.za
Happiness is a state of Mind.
Krokkie skryf in boodskap news:3b25a4c5$0$228@hades.is.co.za...
> Cape Town - A substantial proportion of black South Africans believe whites
> are racist and untrustworthy and find it hard to imagine ever being friends
> with them, according to findings of a survey.
> The survey, released on Monday, carried out for the Cape Town-based
> Institute for Justice and Reconciliation (IJR), also found that 81 percent
> of black respondents had never eaten a meal with a white person.
>
> The poll was aimed at evaluating people's opinions of the Truth and
> Reconciliation Commission (TRC) and its effect on South African society.
>
> In their analysis of the findings, researchers Professor James Gibson of
> Washington University in the United States, and IJR staffer Helen Macdonald
> said this "racial isolation" impeded reconciliation.
>
> "Black South Africans do not understand whites, they feel uncomfortable
> around them," they said.
>
> "We do not argue that to 'know' is necessarily to 'love' ... but it is
> difficult not to be suspicious of groups with which one has had little
> personal contact and experience."
>
> But they also said it was important to put the data into perspective by
> imagining what responses might have been like a decade ago.
>
> More reconciliation than expected
>
>
> "From the perspective of the vitriolic debates about race that are so
> prominent in South Africa today, the data portray substantially more racial
> reconciliation than would be expected.
>
> "South Africa is far from being a contented 'rainbow nation', but it is also
> a country in which many seem to reject the intense racial animosity of the
> past."
>
> The survey, based on 3 727 interviews, found that less than a quarter of
> blacks said they understood the customs and ways of whites. Roughly half of
> the whites, coloured and Asians asserted they did not understand blacks.
>
> Fifty-six percent of blacks believed whites were untrustworthy, while a
> third of whites believed the same of blacks.
>
> Sixty-nine percent of blacks were willing to ascribe selfish motives to
> whites, while only 45 percent of whites held similar views on blacks.
>
> Asked whether whites were non-racist, just over a third of blacks agreed, 22
> percent were uncertain, and 43 percent disagreed.
>
> Asked the same question about blacks, half the white respondents disagreed,
> 27 percent agreed, and the rest were uncertain.
>
> 'Hard to imagine white friends'
>
>
> Just over half the blacks found it hard to imagine ever being friends with a
> white person. For whites, the figure was 19 percent.
>
> Equal proportions of blacks and whites - just under a fifth of each group -
> thought South Africa would be a better place without the other race.
>
> However, Gibson and Macdonald said the survey also showed most South
> Africans were hopeful about their future, and a majority, or near-majority,
> of each group was hopeful as well.
>
> "Important issues face the country and many of these issues divide South
> Africa by race. But, most seem committed to a multi-racial South Africa. Few
> would have predicted such findings a decade ago."
>
> Consensus on TRC
>
> They found "vast racial differences" in how people evaluated the TRC.
>
> While 76 percent of black South Africans approved of the work of the body,
> only 37 percent of whites supported it.
>
> Generally speaking, most people of all colours judged the amnesty process to
> be unfair, even to the individuals seeking amnesty.
>
> It was thought to be particularly unjust towards those who died in the
> struggle against apartheid.
>
> The researchers said they were surprised by the finding that most whites
> supported a policy under which the government would pay compensation to
> victims of gross human rights abuses, which implied that they recognised "to
> at least some degree" responsibility for the past.
>
> Apartheid 'crime against humanity'
>
> Most South Africans, of all races, agreed that apartheid as practised in
> South Africa was a crime against humanity.
>
> However, half of the white respondents, and a "somewhat surprising" 36
> percent of blacks, believed that though there had been abuses, the ideas
> behind apartheid were "basically good".
>
> "This most likely means that the 'separate development' aspects of apartheid
> are endorsed, rather than the idea that a racial hierarchy is acceptable,"
> said the authors.
>
> They said it was consequently not surprising to find that many South
> Africans believed the struggle to preserve apartheid was just.
>
> The finding that a greater proportion of blacks than whites (40 percent to
> 34 percent) held this view was "unexpected", perhaps indicating that people
> accepted that each racial community had the right to a separate existence.
>
> South Africans of every race accepted what was probably a central conclusion
> of the TRC - that those who struggled for and against apartheid committed
> horrible abuses, and the differences between blacks and whites on this issue
> were insignificant.
>
Wat nogal van belang is, is die vernaam die laaste drie paragrawe.
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Races do not understand each other in S.Africa: survey
Copyright 2001 by Agence France-Presse (via ClariNet) / Mon, 11 Jun 2001
13:30:10 PDT
CAPE TOWN, June 11 (AFP) - A majority of black South Africans surveyed
believe that whites are racist and untrustworthy and find it hard to imagine
ever being friends with them, according to findings of a poll released on
Monday.
The survey, carried out for the Cape Town-based Institute for Justice and
Reconciliation (IJR), also found that 81 percent of black respondents had
never eaten a meal with a white person.
The poll was aimed at evaluating people's opinions of the Truth and
Reconciliation Commission (TRC) and its effect on South African society.
In their analysis of the findings, researchers James Gibson of Washington
University in Saint Louis, Missouri, and IJR staffer Helen Macdonald said
this "racial isolation" impeded reconciliation.
"Black South Africans do not understand whites, they feel uncomfortable
around them," they said.
"We do not argue that to 'know' one's counterparts is necessarily to 'love'
them ... but it is difficult not to be suspicious of groups with which one
has had little personal contact and experience."
But they also said it was important to put the data into perspective by
imagining what responses might have been a decade ago.
"From the perspective of the vitriolic debates about race that are so
prominent in South Africa today, these data portray substantially more
racial reconciliation than would be expected.
"South Africa is far from being a contented 'rainbow nation', but it is also
a country in which many seem to reject the intense racial animosity of the
past."
The survey, based on 3,727 interviews, found that fewer than a quarter of
blacks said they understood the customs and ways of whites. Roughly half of
the whites, coloured (mixed-race) and Asians asserted they did not
understand blacks.
Fifty-six percent of black South Africans believed whites were
untrustworthy, while a third of whites believed the same of blacks.
Just over half the blacks found it hard to imagine ever being friends with a
white person. For whites, the figure was 19 percent.
But Gibson and Macdonald said the survey showed most South Africans were
hopeful about their future.
"Important issues face the country, and many of these issues divide South
Africa by race. But at the end of the day, most seem committed to a
multi-racial South Africa, and many hold attitudes compatible with a
harmonious future for the country. Few would have predicted such findings a
decade ago," they said.
They found "vast racial differences" in how people evaluated the TRC, which
gave amnesties for political crimes.
While 76 percent of black South Africans approved of the work of the body,
only 37 percent of whites supported it.
Most South Africans of all races agreed that apartheid as practised in South
Africa was a crime against humanity.
However, half of the white respondents, and a "somewhat surprising" 36
percent of blacks, believed that though there had been abuses, the ideas
behind apartheid were "basically good".
"This most likely means that the 'separate development' aspects of apartheid
are endorsed, rather than the idea that a racial hierarchy is acceptable,"
said the authors.
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