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Fri, 05 October 2007 18:55

Where is 'The Jade Giant'?
28 September 2007, 12:00
Related ArticlesNo answers on mystery gem
Expert waits to get hands on giant 'diamond'
Mystery of diamond-like stone may be solved
Curse of the Jade Giant
Giant 'diamond' still unverified
Accusations: 'total rubbish'
Verification of giant stone could take weeks
Mystery about 'world biggest diamond' deepens
Mystery surrounds diamond claim
Mystery surrounds N West diamond
Industry digs deep to find truth behind tale
By Natasha Joseph and Sapa

The story of "the world's biggest diamond" gets, in the words of Lewis
Carroll's Alice, "curiouser and curiouser".

It's been a month since the country went crazy over claims that a 7
000-carat stone, believed to be a diamond, had been found by an
unidentified miner on an unnamed North West mine.

As yet, the only proof of the gem's existence is a grainy photograph,
purportedly snapped with a cellphone in a car on the way from the mine
to the vault it occupies in Johannesburg.

And in a bizarre twist to the multi-faceted tale, mine spokesperson
and property developer Brett Jolly, who reported the discovery, has
invited the Cape Times to see it somewhere in Johannesburg, "at some
point next week".

No location, time or date is available. This was for security reasons,
Jolly said on Thursday.

The invitation comes at a price: the Cape Times would be allowed to
photograph the gem, and bring along its own diamond tester, but it
stands to be sued for R10 million in "pre-agreed damages" if it prints
the photographs or any information about the stone before South
Africa's Diamond Council chairperson Ernest Blom and Jolly give the
go-ahead.

This would mean publishing days, even years, later, depending on their
terms.

The Cape Times declined the invitation.

Thursday Blom, the only person permitted to authenticate the stone,
confirmed he had not seen it.

"It is my hope that we will see the stone next week," he said. "I've
been imploring the owners to move forward so that we can put this
matter to bed.

"I believe the reason no one has seen the stone is the miners' concern
about security."

Blom acknowledged the stone had received a great deal of publicity and
the delay in verification had led to enormous speculation.

"But at the end of the day I can only do so much," he said.

Since August 27, when a colleague of Jolly phoned the Cape Times to
announce the discovery, the stone has grown from an improbable 5 000
carats to 8120.

The mysterious man who found the stone - described by Jolly as "a
78-year-old typical Afrikaner" - claimed to be "terrified" that the
find might put his life in danger.

The light-green stone, which Jolly nicknamed The Jade Giant, is said
to be in a security vault in Johannesburg.

Experts who have examined the photograph have conceded that its form
resembles that of a diamond and could, if genuine, rank as "the eighth
wonder of the world".

Curiouser and curiouser, indeed.

http://www.dailynews.co.za/?fSectionId=&fArticleId=vn200 70928090139618C361424

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Koeitjies & kalfies | 27 kommentare

Jan

Fri, 05 October 2007 16:54

On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 21:41:41 +0800, "Daniel le Roux" wrote:
> Dankie Dave vir jou advies! En dankie vir jou aanbod om meer te verduidelik
> indien ek nie verstaan waarvan jy praat nie, maar ek is oppie dieselfde
> golflengte! Ek maak ook gebruik van Ghost as 'n backup.
>
> Die laaste paar dae het ek iets heeltemaal anders gedoen ten opsigte van
> sp*m emails, met 'n merkwaardige reaksie! Soos reeds genoem gebruik ek
> Sp*mBully, en het tot twee dae gelede maar bloot die sp*m emails gecheck en
> dan ignoreer. Maar sedert Dinsdag maak ek gebruik van die 'Fight Back"
> funksie onder Sp*mBully. In my vorige pos het ek genoem dat ek sowat 80 tot
> 100 sp*m emails per dag ontvang - sedert Dinsdag kry ek sowat 15 tot 20 per
> dag. Ek het dit nie vantevore gedoen nie aangesien ek glo dat bloot die
> 'terugfight' teen sp*m emails bloot dien as bevestiging van 'n werkende
> emailadres. Maar ek was so gatvol vir al die emails dat ek toe besluit het
> om van die 'Fight Back' opsie gebruik te maak om te kyk wat gebeur.
>
> Ek sal laat weet of hierdie positiewe aksie aanhou!
>
> Goebaai vanaf Perth.
>
> Jan van Perth

Met verstaanbare rede het ek die titel verander:-)

Dankie Jan, vir jou advies oor Spam.
Ek het, toe ek van dial-up gebruik gemaak het gebruik gemaak van
Telkom se abusemail fasiliteit, en ek belowe jou dit het gewerk.
Op stadiums het ek moerig geword en vir Telkom gesê dat hulle niks
doen nie, en later opgemerk dat die spamming nie weer van dieselfde
adresse af kom nie. En dat dit minder geword het.

En toe kry ek lokale spamming - iemand met 'n computershop in
Pretoria. Baie handig, daar was tot 'n selfoonnommer by:-)
Behalwe dat ek hulle by Telkom se abusemail gerapporteer het,
het ek so paar keer teen een uur in die oggende SMSse gestuur
dat hulle moet ophou om my te spam.

Die ou storie van kliek hier om te unsubscribe was natuurlik daar,
maar ek unsubscribe nie van iets waarvoor ek nie gesubscribe het nie.
En dit het ek hulle ook sommer so na 1uur in die oggend vertel.
Hulle het onmiddelik my adres van hul spamlys afgehaal.

Toe kry ek breëband en nou,
hou ek my e-posadres in 'n kluis. 6 of 7 mense ken dit, en ek het 'n
ander een wat ek gebruik wanneer ek pos moet terugkry vir bevestiging
van iets of in dier voege.

Maar laat weet wat jy regkry met die 'Fight Back' opsie.
Omdat ek spammers gereeld gerapporteer het, het ek eenkeer
'n briefbom gekry. Dit was 'n paar jaar gelede. En dit was weer
waar ek Ghost waardeer het:-)

Rekenaars & selfone | 5 kommentare

Vandag se Wenk

Fri, 05 October 2007 07:47

Vervang jou PDF leser,
wat heelwaarskynlik Acrobat Reader is,
met Foxit PDF Reader Pro.

Dit maak handige fasiliteite beskikbaar
wat nie in die Acrobat Reader beskikbaar is nie
en dit is ook baie kleiner. Net meer as 2MB.

Rekenaars & selfone | 0 kommentare

Uit die mond van 'n SWART MAN nogal

Thu, 04 October 2007 13:39

By Emanuel McLittle

All men are not created equal. There is but one single explanation for the
6,000 years of strife, the spilling of an ocean of blood, the sacrifice of
light years of progress, and the basis for the current global power
struggle. All of this is the result of at least two unalterably opposing
types of souls, one vicious and animal like, the other enlightened and
human, fighting. Both are wrapped in an immortal struggle to dominate one
planet.

The goal of any confidence game is to create a sense of doubt about the
obvious.
Sociopaths, the leaders of more than three billion of the earth's people,
operate through the veins of nations, its political structure. But the
swindling of retirees out of their savings, or the smooth tongue needed to
motivate others to commit immoral or illegal acts is child's play compared
to the international drama currently being acted out on the world stage. Let
there be no doubt, the draw stings that open and close the intermission
curtain, the lighting to control perception (the media), the actors whose
lies boggle the mind, all hang from a ventriloquist's string. They want to
fool us all.

Even when the plot is hidden, the international players reveal enough for us
to figure out the motive, as well as who is pulling their strings. This
said, let us focus on Nelson Mandela, who recently emerged from retirement,
at 85-years-old, to play a pivotal role in yet another scrimmage between the
two great sides. Today the stage is set in the Middle East. The names are
only coincidental. In every age there was an American viewpoint and an Iraqi
viewpoint, with every man and woman in the world on one side or the other.

Mandela's job is to use his reputation as a persecuted black man, freed from
a dungeon in the dessert, in 1990. His very presence impugns a conviction.
White people, all white people, locked him away for 26 years of his life. He
was branded a hero for all the dark people of the world for opposing white
domination.

International brokers, his soul brothers in "high places," took control of
Africa's wealthiest nation, placed a living martyr on its throne to reign
over an idea far beyond the borders of South Africa.

People of color, in this case, the Iraqis, are said to be the perpetual
victims, Mandela implies, of nation-thieves, white, western Christians out
to rule the world, a desire of their own hearts.

Mandela was strategic. South Africa was merely the staging ground for the
false guilt used all around the world, for various scrimmages. Mandela's
impact on the rest of the world is psychological and works like a silent
weapon. When Mandela speaks, as he did recently, when he accused, "America
of introducing chaos in international affairs," it is a strategic chess
move. With little to no experience in politics, except the killing of whites
and rival Zulu tribesmen, Mandela has no legitimate claim to greatness.
There are no intelligent papers penned by Mandela. Others wrote all the
speeches he delivered. His thoughts belong to others. He solved none of
South Africa's internal problems. He is of average intelligence and has no
money other then what was given to him for his role in South Africa's fall.
So,how did he become a hero?

Mandela is called one of the world's "tallest" statesmen even before he
emerged from his prison cell. Fellow Marxists around the world who created
Mandela now want him to use his racial capital to influence President Bush,
who is smart enough to refuse to take Mandela's telephone call. It did not
take a lot of nerve for Mandela to show his face after reigning over the
destruction of South Africa's prosperity. To accuse America is his true
nature.

Like billions of his soul brothers, Mandela is incapable of creating and
building anything. His type waits for others to create and build. Then they
infiltrate and take over.

I believe apartheid, set aside in 1992, was a feeble, unjust and unworkable
attempt, on the part of white South Africans, to separate from the
dissimilar personalities obvious in the two rivaling types of humans.

South Africa is now the AIDS capitol of the world, with 55 percent of its
black population testing HIV positive, according to the U.N. South Africa
also leads the world in violent crime. There are more murders and rapes (per
capita) in South Africa than anywhere on the globe. To cover up, Mandela and
his successors have created new forms of censorship in order to hide the
mess. South Africa's Jesse Jackson, Desmond Tutu, recently asked for
American aid, following the mass exodus, since 1994, of more than half of
South Africa's commercial farmers. This has cut food production down by 60
percent. The reason for the mass fleeing is the near 1,500 murders of small
and large white farmers by black thugs carrying military weapons, possibly
distributed by the ANC.

The U.S. media is silent about South Africa's killings and rapes,
where white women and even small white children are intentionally infected
( RAPED !!! ) with the AIDS virus. To suppress the truth about their (
MARXIST ) brethren, world wide, is their job.

There are deep and vital reasons why the news is twisted by the elitists.
Western liberals claim that the leopard-like carnage we see in South Africa
is due to pent up rage, for years of apartheid. But I disagree.
I propose that humans are not created equal and that what we are seeing in
South Africa is the evidence that at least some men are endowed with the
souls of vicious animals. Like Saddam Hussein, billions of people are dark
in nature, murderous without flinching and seem gratified by horror. I
further propose that this is not based on race or national origin. In fact
more than half the world may belong to this race. Most are not black.

The real reason for the so-called third world is the mentality of the third
world. The left says that education; the removal of poverty and the
elimination of racism will make men equal in prosperity. But if that were
so, America and England would be a heavenly paradise. This is where the most
educated people in the world live, work and play. No, education is not the
key. Wealth is not it, nor is racial equity. It is spirit gifted with some
degree of illumination, without which one cannot see which way to go.

No, it is not IQ. It is Spirit. Entire continents like Africa, with 2,000
varieties of vegetables, roots, fruits, legumes and grains, to say nothing
of the immense wealth in minerals, diamonds and gold would not have a third
of population starving, continuously. Africa could be among the wealthiest
continents in the world. But it is not. The spirit is not there. It is here,
in America. And everyone knows it. Does that mean that we do not make
terrible political misstates? Certainly we do. Nevertheless, that has not
stopped heaven's gift basket from falling on us.

Mandela presided over great wealth earned by others and still he left South
Africa in chaos. He helped to reduce a wealthy nation to near poverty
status.
He stands next to Saddam and defends Iraq not because he believes so much in
Iraq's cause but because they are brothers in the truer sense that FOX, CNN
or ABC can comprehend. Saddam and Mandela are of the same heart and they
know it. All of the evil of this world know each other.

North Korea, China, Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, most of Europe, Asia, Syria,
and the majority of the UN Security Council, are all on Saddam's side, no
matter their rhetoric. This treatise is not entirely about Mandela. It is
about redefining the real nature of our current global conflict, with Iraq
in the middle at this time. All the political deviants know each other. It
is the people of good-will who are strangers. This is also about every other
conflict we have ever had, since a man with one world view bludgeoned his
brother, who had a different world view, to death. The friction is eternal.
The stakes are higher than ever. No more wooden clubs. Now comes the threat
of atomic weapons. Prophets predicted their use.
This is the time to know for sure, what side you are on.

Koeitjies & kalfies | 1 kommentaar

Xolela Mangcu oor Mbeki en SA

Thu, 04 October 2007 12:18

Going over the cliff with eyes wide open
Xolela Mangcu

IT's a mess. A big mess. Look around you .

We have the highest levels of inequality in the world; we have the
highest incidence of HIV/AIDS in the world; we have half of our
population living in poverty and unemployment; our youths roam the
streets with no hope in hell; our public hospitals have been turned
into morgues; our public schools are falling apart; we go to sleep
with our eyes half open; the Senegalese president calls President
Thabo Mbeki's project — the New Partnership for Africa's Development —
nothing but “intellectual swindle”; and our national commissioner of
police is suspected of being a mafia don. We cannot say we are
governed by the best and the brightest.

And then there is the nauseating arrogance of the very people
responsible for the mess. Essop Pahad tells journalists they are out
of order, and that they can go and write that the minister in the
Presidency said so. The bantustan leader Lennox Sebe used to speak
like that. But whether Pahad likes it or not, the question of the
president's knowledge of the existence of the warrant of arrest for
Jackie Selebi will lead to questions of whether the president himself
is guilty of defeating the ends of justice. This is what Richard Nixon
faced during Watergate, and it took his successor Gerald Ford to
pardon him. Mbeki is probably acutely aware that one possible future
president, Jacob Zuma, would not be that forgiving. The arrogance
extends beyond Pahad. Selebi boldly pronounces: “I will never be
arrested'; and Mbeki suspends the nation's attorney-general, Vusi
Pikoli, and catches the next plane out of town.

Are we in cowboy territory, or what? In fact, I am surprised that no
one has been killed yet. Zuma's supporters have been sounding off that
they might just do that to those who do not support Msholozi. The
unfortunate Terror Lekota got a taste of that when he was booed by
Zuma's supporters. But surely he was not expecting red carpet
treatment after calling them izibhanxa (fools) recently. Even if they
don't kill anyone, they will kick butt once they get into power, going
after all those who persecuted their man.

AND that may well be Mbeki's biggest fear. It looks like Zuma's intent
is simply to take care of business — which is to kick out Mbeki in
December — and deal with his own legal problems later. Mbeki is also
probably aware that he is running out of time, which may explain his
impatience with Pikoli. We often forget that Mbeki has only 18 months
before he steps down as president after the April 2009 elections. In
fact, his demise may even be sooner.

Six months before those elections, the African National Congress (ANC)
has to compile a list of its MPs, and, by law, Mbeki would not be on
top of it. Even though I have my doubts about it, some people say that
after December, the ANC could call a special congress in which it
recalls Mbeki from the presidency of the country. After all, he is
deployed to the presidency of the country by dint of his position as
president of the ANC. Remove him from the latter and he has no right
to the former. By this logic a great deal more than the party's
presidency hangs on December.

Business Day could not have explained Mbeki's behaviour better in
yesterday's editorial: “What is happening in our body politic is
unprecedented. All but the most die-hard Mbeki supporters now believe
that the race to win election as party leader in Polokwane in December
is Jacob Zuma's to lose. The more widespread that impression grows,
the more erratic Mbeki seems to become.” There is, indeed, no one
quite as dangerous as a man in a corner. I often wonder what someone
like Nelson Mandela must feel, seeing the dream for which he and his
departed comrades sacrificed so much, falling into tatters. How could
Mandela possibly feel, having committed himself to obtaining freedom
in his lifetime only to see it being whittled away by his successor in
that same lifetime? It is truly sad that no one in the ANC has the
guts to stand up against the depredations of Mbeki and the problems of
a Zuma presidency.

It is like a group of people going over a cliff with their eyes wide
open. It is just absolutely amazing. Surreal is more like it.

Koeitjies & kalfies | 6 kommentare

Verskonings, verskonings

Wed, 03 October 2007 23:22

Vir almal wat geinteresseerd is: nie alleen gaan ons
weg vir die Kanadese Thanksgiving na ons dogter
in Brantford nie, maar een van ons seuns is op die
oomblik hier by ons, en ek kan eenvoudig net nie
die tyd afneem om die Afrikaanse nuusgroep te
lees en vrae te antwoord nie.
Die seun waarvan ek praat, is die ou wat
in die VSA gewerk het, maar besluit het dat hy
nie meer daar wil bly nie, en nou in Engeland
gaan werk. Hy is hier om n werkvisa op te tel.
Ek weet Dave gaan uitwys dat ek net
probeer om moeilike vrae te ontduik. Hopelik
weet hy dis nie waar nie. Ons gaan altyd teen
hierdie tyd weg vir Thanksgiving.
Gloudina

Koeitjies & kalfies | 1 kommentaar

Nog Suid-Afrika

Wed, 03 October 2007 13:57

Hoe kom 'n mens reg ná so 'n aanval?'
Oct 02 2007 09:59:28:763PM - (SA)

Hilda Fourie

Rowers het me. Amanda Swart (50) in die vroeë oggendure by haar huis
op 'n kleinhoewe, wes van Pretoria, met 'n klip oor die kop geslaan,
en gedreig om haar te verkrag.

Terwyl die bloed in die middernagtelike ure Sondag oor haar gesig
geloop het, het een van die rowers met sy vinger oor haar wang gevryf.

Hy het gesê sy moet vir hom geld en vuurwapens gee of sy word verkrag.

“Ek het daar in my nagklere gesit. Ek het kaal en weerloos gevoel,” sê
Swart terwyl sy die trane van haar wange afvee.

Nadat die rowers haar huis leeggedra het, het een van hulle haar met
'n mes op die voorkop gesteek. Sy moes vyf steke kry.

“Wat het ek verkeerd gedoen? Ek het niemand seergemaak nie. Ek het net
geslaap,” sê sy.

Swart, 'n manshaarkapper, het Saterdagaand omstreeks 20:00 met 'n
migraine in die bed geklim.

Volgens haar het die rowers by 'n sitkamervenster ingekom. Sy het niks
gehoor nie. “Omstreeks 00:30 was daar drie mans in my kamer. Een het
my met 'n klip (so groot soos 'n halwe baksteen) oor die kop geslaan.
Ek het begin bloei.

“Een van die ander het toe vir my 'n handdoek gebring om die bloed te
stop. Hy het oor my wang gevryf en gesê as ek nie vir hom geld en
gewere gee nie, gaan hy my verkrag.

“Sy gesig was hier by myne. Ek het in sy oë gekyk toe hy dit vir my
sê. Hulle het my beursie gekry en my huur- en kosgeld gevat.

“Ek het nie eens meer geld om vir my kinders kos te koop nie. Hulle
het die bietjie wat ek gehad het, gevat.”

Die rowers het haar hande vasgebind en weggeloop. Een het teruggekom
en haar met 'n mes gesny.

Hulle het toe deur die venster gevlug. Swart het haar dogter, wat
sowat 25 m van haar af bly, geroep wat die polisie ontbied het.

“Hoe kom 'n mens reg ná so iets?

“My seun, Marius (32), se been is in Augustus geamputeer. Ná alles
waardeur ek is, hoekom het hulle nie net die huis besteel nie. Hoekom
is ek seergemaak?”

Insp. Paul Ramaloko, polisiewoordvoerder, het die voorval bevestig.

Koeitjies & kalfies | 2 kommentare

Now showing: Mbeki's reality TV

Wed, 03 October 2007 12:33

Now showing: Mbeki's reality TV

INSIGHT

Piet van Niekerk

THE notion of being "part of a collective" seems to answer many questions
when one attempts to make sense of President Thabo Mbeki's reality
employment game called Political Survivor: South Africa.

With the exception of his former vice- president Jacob Zuma who faced
serious criminal charges at the time of his sacking, the rest of Mbeki's
impressive - and growing - list of axed (political) victims were well
respected work horses.

But this did not prevent any of them from taking the walk of shame the
moment Mbeki and his survivor game's Tribal Council decided to snuff out
their flame. His latest victim, National Prosecuting Authority (NPA) head
Advocate Vusi Pikoli, followed closely in the footsteps of the Deputy
Minister of Health Nozizwe Madlala-Routledge (August), the National
Intelligence Agency director-general Billy Masetlha (October 2005) and
Mangosuthu Buthelezi (April 2004).

The official reasons advanced by Mbeki for some of the dismissals appear
dodgy. In Pikoli's case Mbeki said in New York on Thursday that he believed
his decision to suspend the NPA boss was the best way to deal with the
conflict that had arisen between Pikoli and the Minister of Justice,
Brigitte Mabandla.

And all of this took place before the world learnt that the Scorpions have
been planning to arrest national police chief and Interpol head Jackie
Selebi with Pikoli's blessing. This was what on the cards before Mbeki
stepped in to protect his "untouchable" friend.

Another victim in Political Survivor: South Africa Madlala-Routledge, fell
foul of the president because of what he referred to as her inability to
work as "part of a collective". Ironically, the accolades have yet to stop
for her achievements in the Health Department.

Among the other survivors thus far is Health Minister Manto
Tshabalala-Msimang. One would certainly think there would be more than
enough credible reasons for Mbeki to vote a drinking and apparently thieving
contestant off his survivor island, yet she retains her indemnity necklace
as one of Mbeki's "untouchables".

So too does her predecessor, Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma, who spent R14 million
on the Sarafina 2 disaster while still health minister.

Our own barefoot Premier Nosimo Balindlela has also "miraculously" survived
incredibly shaky tenures - first as MEC for Education and later as MEC for
Sport, Arts and Culture, only to go on to win the surprise reward from
Mbeki - premiership. Despite being voted the worst performing Premier in
South Africa in a 2004 SABC/Markinor opinion poll, Balindlela retains an
indemnity necklace.

Why the double standards?

The answer seems to lie in the ANC's "principles and procedures for the
nomination and election of members of the (ANC's) National Executive
Committee" for the event responsible for so much of South Africa's current
political turmoil - the ANC's party leadership elections in Polokwane in
December.

The principles stipulate that "cadres should respect and uphold the
'collective' decisions of the ANC membership as reflected in the resolutions
and outcomes of National Conference ... The ANC has long been characterised
by its ability to combine diversity and unity".

If being "a team player" carries more weight than "individual flare" on
Mbeki's performance appraisal clipboard, then performance will never be a
significant measuring tool. Instead, the ability to dance in unison around
the same fire will be much more important.

United Democratic Movement leader Bantu Holomisa adds to this line of
argument by linking Pikoli's recent suspension to the ANC's succession
battle.

Holomisa believes "the problem with the ANC's deployment policy of
appointing cadres to key state positions is that when (the ANC's) infighting
becomes endemic, as it is now, then there is pressure from certain factions
to act against certain people who occupy important positions in the state".

"Increasingly we see that problems in government are a reflection of the
ruling party's problems," he added.

With "Polokwane December" approaching swiftly, Eastern Cape ANC stalwarts
are increasingly reluctant to share their views on Mbeki.

One thing that is certain (and made very clear) is that Mbeki's employment
practices have irritated some of his long-time supporters. ANC Nelson
Mandela Bay regional chairperson Mike Xego has already indicated that his
region are unlikely to support Mbeki's bid to win a third term as the ANC's
national leader.

While it is unclear who the Nelson Mandela region will support - there are
rumblings that it could be Tokyo Sexwale - at least one other Eastern Cape
region, OR Tambo, has indicated that it will abandon its support for Mbeki
and, for now, favours Zuma.

A branch representative said they don't believe that Mbeki's goals are
aligned to those of the people anymore. Asked about Mbeki's rationale for
hiring and firing, the OR Tambo representative said: "We just don't
understand it anymore."

Both this and Holomisa's arguments brings us full circle to the notion of
being "part of a collective".

When French social theorist Émile Durkheim coined the collective doctrine to
describe how an entire community comes together to share similar values, his
intention was to explain how a group of people can be motivated by at least
one common issue or objective.

It now seems Mbeki's collective
objective in his game of Political Survivor: South Africa is more focused
on the hidden agenda of his own
untouchable tribal council than on the common objectives of the people at
grassroots.

Piet van Niekerk is acting political
editor

Koeitjies & kalfies | 1 kommentaar

Riaan

Wed, 03 October 2007 11:24

Reageer eers op die skrywe.
Ek wil 'n voorstel maak maar wil eers seker maak
of ek al jou aandag het - of jy met ore gespits luister
reg om te antwoord.

Koeitjies & kalfies | 9 kommentare

Re: Julle het kuiermense

Tue, 02 October 2007 21:00

"Dave" wrote in message >

> Nou wat het met julle nuusgroep gebeur? Hier het julle verkeer sonder
> ophou.
> Op ons nuusgroep het ek 'n tyd gelede gepraat oor hoe die moslems
> die wereld deur infiltreer waar hulle nie welkom is nie. Toe tref dit
> julle nuusgroep! Dit is hulle natuur. Miskien moet julle maar oor
> skuif na ons toe. Moet hulle net nie saambring nie:-)

Sal ons Afrikaans moet praat?

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