Gloudiena:
Ek kry dit hier, in Ottawa.Kan jy vir my vertel hoe jy op die"leuce" as
skuilnaam besluit het, Samuel Murray? En hoe gaan dit met die getroude lewe?
Leuce:
Dis my vierde internet nick. Die eerste ene wat "Clarah Hallstein" (uit 'n
Duitse skoolhandboek gekry), daarna "debbie" (my een DM se meisie se naam),
daarna "coinquay" (spreek hom in Engels uit, luister in Afrikaans), en toe
uiteindelik "leuce". Dis 'n verwronging van my eerste meisie se naam, Lucy.
Die meisie is lank nie meer nie, maar die nick bly klou.
Die getroude lewe? Heerlik, hoor. Ijlant en ekke is heel gelukkig. Jy
moet 'n draai kom maak by ons in L (die voorstad van afgetrede professors,
advokate en koerantredakteurs) as jy weer in Jansberg 'n draai loop.
Hierdie blykbaar die 9de en laaste jaar vir hierdie kompetisie. Is dit
beskikbaar op Internet?
Wonderlike woorde is geskep as gevolg van hierdie kompetisie.
Ek hou veral van vloermoer vir " tantrum"
Vader ons kind!!! Wanneer gaan jy leer om nie jou telefoonnommer op so 'n
oop forum bekend te maak nie?
Jy soek vir moeilikheid en jy gaan dit kry.
Annette
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Leuce:
Ek is betrokke by die webmeestery van http://www.afrikaans.com/. Van ons
lesers het gesê dat hulle nie tot die webwerf kan toegang kry nie, want dit
word deur Mweb gehuisves. Kan ek julle vra om seblief te gaan kyk of julle
by die webwerf kan uitkom, en indien nie (of wel) watter ISP's julle
gebruik? Die Mweb hulpdesk sê dat hierdie werf nie deur hulle nuwe beleid
van geen-toegang geaffekteer behoort te wees nie, maar ek is onseker.
Thanks.
Het verbaast me steeds dat het Zuid-Afrikaans dezelfde spreekwoorden
kent
als wij hier in Nederland .
Als voorbeeld ,,,,Kennen jullie deze ook??
Als de kat van huis is dansen de muizen op tafel
Zoals het klokje thuis tikt tikt het nergens.
Oost west thuis best.
Wie een kuil graaft voor een ander valt er zelf in.
Nog meer.............;-))
Thank you for your response to my open letter to the Minister. It's a pity
though, that it doesn't address any of the issues I raised. And by trying
to deflect the issues with the tired "play the man" strategy, it simply
confirms the widespread perception of an insecure department, unable to
engage with any criticism constructively.
I am sorry to burst your bubble, Rob. But you and the Minister are not "in
the trenches". The trenches are where retrenched dancers and actors,
unemployed musicians and visual artists, writers and filmmakers struggle to
make art, with or without government support. And it might take guts to do
what you do, but I think it takes more guts to wake up everyday and try to
be an artist in this country at the moment. The Minister feels "stabbed in
the back" because of my public questioning of him? Now he knows how artists
and cultural administrators feel. Having entrusted your department with
their futures, their passions, their livelihoods, they feel let down, angry,
frustrated, disillusioned. For never Rob, - since 1994 - never has the arts
and culture sector been in such disarray as now. You've suffered insults,
had your hard work marginalised, been outvoted in the last six years, and
still you're doing what you're doing. Bully for you. Try 15 years or more
which is what some of us have spent trying to advance the cause of the arts
and of cultural practitioners in our country. And it's getting harder, Rob.
The distance keeps getting longer. This takes guts, Rob. It takes guts to
stand up to a defensive department, to question their lack of delivery, to
expose corruption, to go against the flow of brownnosers and opportunists.
That takes guts, Rob. .....
Spesiaal vir die drolle (en hulle weet wie hulle is)
Death Row
There was a Mosotho,a Mopedi and a Zulu on death row.The warden gave them a
choice of three ways to be executed:
1.To be shot
2.To be hung
3.To be injected with the AIDS virus
So the Mosotho said,"I will go the quick way ,shoot me right in the
head."They took him to one side and BANG! he was dead.
Then the Mopedi said,"Just hang me."They took him to one side,put the rope
around his neck and SNAP he was dead.
Then the Zulu said,"Give me some of that AIDS stuff." They gave him a shot
of the virus.The Zulu sat there for a while,then fell down to the floor
laughing.The guards looked at each other,confused by this akward
behaviour.The Zulu stood up from the floor,sat down on his chair and with a
grin on his face said,"Give me another one of those".So the warden did,and
this time the man laughed so much he almost wet his pants.Finally the warden
asked,"What the hell is wrong with you ?!",on wich the Zulu,still breaking
with laughter,replied,"Aaayshh,you guys are so stupid-I'm wearing a
condom...."
Dankie. Ons is OK. Dit was nogal 'n belewenis. Dit het begin met 'n groot
slag. Daarna het ons gebou heen en weer begin swaai. Boekrakke het
omgeval, PCs en monitors het van lessenare afgeval en swaar meubels het oor
die vloer migreer. Ons is op die vierde vloer, en buitekant was alles wat
normaalweg rigied is, aan die beweeg. Alhoewel dit net 40 sekondes geduur
het, het dit baie, baie langer gevoel. Snaaks genoeg het ek geen vrees
ondervind terwyl ek het gewonder het of die volgende swaai die gebou gaan
laat ineenstort nie. Dit was net 'n kalm gewaarwording van wel -this is it.
Die krag het onmiddelik afgegaan, en in die middel van alles het ek opgelet
dat die nood diesel generators wel gestart het (ons deel die gebou met die
polisie en brandweer - daarom die generators). Toe die geraas en geswaai
ophou, het ek my telefoon opgediep uit die gemors op die vloer, maar dit was
dood so ek nie huis toe bel nie. Daarna het ons almal ontruim ingeval daar
naskokke sou kom. Ons is afgeraai om in die parkeergarage in te gaan, so ek
het huis-toe begin hardloop. Dit sou in elk geval nie gewerk het om te ry
nie want al die robotte was uit en daar was 'n trein op die oorgang.
Gelukkig het ons geen skade of beserings by die huis nie. Ek het die gas
afgesit net ingeval. Ons grootste ongerief was om sonder krag, telefoon te
wees vir 'n paar uur en sonder verhitting en warm water vir 'n dag.
Danielle skryf in boodskap news:igvq9toa6mkh9ckirg5km7a852nkrdeiet@4ax.com...
> Hoop julle is okay. Dit was 'n ou grootte die keer ne? :-(
>
> Wou maar net se dat ek hoop almal is ongeskond en is veilig.
>
Kan jy die url verskaf van die oorspronklike artikel?
Frikkie Potgieter skryf in boodskap news:97kulr$a3f$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
> Hi folks,
>
> A stunning article appeared in the (London) Daily Mail, written by Ross
> Benson, reporting first-hand from Johannesburg. It lifts the lid on the
> near-collapse of South Africa. .
>
> I find it ironic that these correspondents are the same ones who slated the
> former government, but now finds one far worse, incapable, corrupt and
> inept.
>
> Scripture quotes:.."If God is with you, who can be against you"... One
> could ask, against the background of the South African situation...."If your
> partnership is corrupt, who can defend you"...?
>
> THE SICKENING REALITY OF A
> "FREE" SOUTH AFRICA
>
> So, South Africa is a shining example of diversity, democracy, and racial
> harmony, right? WRONG! Here's a few highlights:
>
> In South Africa:
>
> * A woman is raped every 28 seconds.
> * Doctors are leaving in droves.
> * Beggars live in the marble foyers of derelict banks.
> * Farmers are butchered in their fields.
> * The parks and beaches have become killing fields.
> * Car-jackings are a daily occurrence.
> * The murder rate is running at 27,000 a year.
>
>
> Self-destruction
>
> And how may one measure that catastrophe? South Africa's regression towards
> primeval barbarism, which Benson details, is quite neatly summarised at the
> head of his article: "A woman is raped every 28 seconds, qualified doctors
> are leaving in droves, while beggars and goats have set up home in the
> marble
> foyers of derelict banks. South Africa today has become a nation on the edge
> of self-destruction."
>
> Law and order have to all intents and purposes broken down in South Africa.
> Any sense of security no longer exists. Says Benson of the country's crime:-
> "Farmers are butchered in their fields. The parks and beaches have become
> killing fields. Car-jackings with mind-numbing violence are a daily
> occurrence. The murder rate is running at 27,000 a year."
>
> Benson then repeats the horrifying statistics for rape, of which more will
> be said.These figures, he comments, "breed the kind of fear that has you
> leaping
> at shadows, jumping red lights and climbing out of bed in the middle of the
> night to check, yet again, that you have double-locked the doors."
>
> For you to protect your home even halfway adequately, it now seems that you
> need to pay an 'armed response' security firm. But whatever you do is never
> enough. One black businessman told Benson that he had lost count of the
> numbers of his friends who had been mugged.
>
> Everyone is in the firing line. No social gathering can take place without
> horror stories being exchanged. But at this point we get some hint of the
> censorship that hitherto has been mobilised to keep as much as possible of
> the truth from the public gaze (presumably an increasingly difficult task in
> the ever-worsening crisis engulfing the country). A white security man
> commented on the criminal mayhem: "It's happening to your friends, your
> brother, his wife, your sister, your mother," but, "it isn't something you
> read in the papers or hear about on the television news any more."
>
> Adds Benson: "He carried a gun, but he wasn't fooling himself. He knew it
> could happen to him. In Mandela's 'Rainbow Nation' the dream is running
> blood
> red."
>
> Clearly, South Africa's new ANC (African National Congress) Government is
> almost neurotically aware that the legitimacy of its rule is at stake here.
>
> Decline of a city
>
> Nowhere is the situation worse than in Johannesburg, where it is exemplified
> in all its worst manifestations. Benson gives a graphic description of how
> that unhappy city has declined. Here too, he comes courageously close to
> modern-day heresy in giving the White Man his historic due as the true
> creator of South Africa's original productive infra-structure (a subject
> today largely taboo in a world sold on the 'politically correct' elevation
> of
> the non-European at the expense of the European), and also focusing on the
> White Man's predicament now.
>
> In a striking characterisation of the city, Benson writes:-
>
> "Built on the largest seam of gold ever discovered, this was once the
> richest city in Africa, a gleaming steel-and-glass citadel rising out of the
> brown
> ocean of the Veld, a testament to the economic power of the white community
> that built it, but also an example of what can be achieved by hard work and
> individual enterprise."
>
> And now? "the skyscrapers are still there," he continues, "but the people
> who gave them life and prosperity have gone, driven out by hordes of
> squatters,
> beggars and illegal traders who bought Mandela's promise of a 'better life
> for all' - and demanded instant delivery."
> He continues:-
>
> "Barbecues made of old oil cans blaze in the marble foyers of what used to
> be the headquarters of banks and airlines. There are goats tethered in
> hallways.
> Corrugated iron huts have sprung up on the once-manicured lawns.
>
> "This is not an environment in which any respectable business person, be
> they black or white, can live or work - and most have fled."
> Benson next proceeds to a grim and frightening account of what has been very
> rapid urban and social decay in the centre of a city in which I once lived
> and worked myself. Now, even big business is quitting a metropolis of which
> it was once the raison d'tre.
>
> The country's flag carrier, South African Airlines, has taken refuge in the
> distant outer suburbs. The big mining houses (which practically built the
> town) and even the Stock Exchange are to follow suit. It is evident they can
> hardly remain in a city centre in which it is unsafe for their employees to
> travel to and from work. Benson also reports that the Carlton Hotel has
> closed and sold all its contents, and "the Holiday Inn is a deserted
> fortress, its 800 empty rooms protected by reinforced steel shutters." It is
> as if the London Hilton, the Dorchester and our other luxury hotels were to
> close down because order had totally collapsed, and the city had become
> uninhabitable! All this is the tale of one of the world's major cities
> crumbling into chaos and dereliction, perhaps one day in the not too distant
> future to become as defunct as ancient Babylon.
>
> It is now impossible even to walk in any degree of safety to the South
> African Supreme Court building to get one's case heard. The alleyways
> leading
> to it are prowled by muggers who, says Benson, "are not open to appeal."
> Although the court still goes through the motions of administering the law,
> this has, comments Benson, "helped ease the backlog of cases" in a country
> where, as other commentators have noted, 'affirmative action' has led to the
> colonisation of the bench by magistrates who are illiterate, incompetent,
> corrupt and racially and politically biased, and routinely bail murderers
> and
> rapists back into the community to re-offend. Cases are never dealt with,
> crime explodes - no law, no order!
>
> Fear at night
>
> No wonder Central Johannesburg is now so much a place to avoid, especially
> at night. "As dusk falls," says Benson...
>
> "... the streets start filling with prostitutes and criminals pushing drugs,
> and pills that turn a black skin white - before eventually killing you (if
> AIDS hasn't claimed you first; up to 10 per cent of the population is
> carrying the virus and three quarters of the entire health budget will soon
> be spent on treating the incurable).
>
> "You can hear the occasional sound of gunfire rolling down from Hillbrow, by
> cruel coincidence Johannesburg's first integrated neighbourhood."
> To many, including me (who once lived in that very high-rise district), this
> does not seem so much of a coincidence.
>
> Implicitly referring to the consequences of 'affirmative action', Benson
> describes how...
>
> "... the police keep promising to move in and clean the place up; they never
> do, and if they did it probably wouldn't make any difference: the Minister
> in
> charge of so-called security recently admitted to parliament that a
> policeman is three times more likely to commit a serious crime than an
> average member
> of the public." Summarising his observations of Johannesburg, Benson
> comments:-
>
> "So much for the dream. This is the reality - and it is a shocking one,
> worse than I had anticipated. I have seen cities abandoned in war. This is
> the
> first city I have ever seen abandoned to the barbarians in time of peace.'
> So what of the luckless Whites, themselves abandoned amid this chaos to the
> consequences of 'multiracial democracy'? This, Benson makes clear, is not
> only a tale of de facto displacement by conditions of social chaos which
> white people find utterly intolerable; this in itself has caused mass white
> migrations. In Johannesburg those who opt to remain in proximity to the city
> have retreated to its northern outer suburbs. But there is a mass movement,
> in effect recoiling on the old pioneer routes, back to Cape Province, the
> region of South Africa in which Europeans first touched land. It is
> estimated that in five years 80 per cent of the country's Whites will be
> clustered
> towards the Cape.
>
> Even in the Cape there is now a project to establish at least one urban
> area, some miles into the interior outside Cape Town, which will in practice
> be a
> fortified settlement. With property priced beyond what most Blacks, and
> quite a few poor Whites, could possibly afford, it is, at the size of
> Monaco, to be
> protected by a 33,000-volt fence and patrolled by armed guards.
>
> But in addition, fearful of lawlessness, the white population is also being
> harassed and persecuted by the law. As Benson comments:- "The government has
> lost the battle of the streets but they have control of parliament, and they
> have used their power to pass legislation aimed specifically at one ethnic
> group."
> Instead of apartheid, there is now 'affirmative action', whereby Whites are
> de jure displaced from their jobs and deprived of their incomes to make way
> for Blacks, without regard for the latter's qualifications or abilities, but
> purely on racial grounds in order to "redress past imbalances." The result?
> Air traffic controllers are now being appointed who cannot read their
> instruments. According to Commissioner of Police George Fivaz, 30,000 of his
> officers are "functionally illiterate." To supplement the facts quoted by
> Benson, one may add the purging of the health services over two years ago
> (as
> also reported at the time in the Daily Mail, by Peter Younghusband, the
> paper's then South African correspondent) by the Minister of Health
> Nkosazana
> Zuma, who replaced district surgeons and doctors with Cuban recruits
> competent neither in the English language nor as medical practitioners.
>
> Working class whites thrown on scrapheap
>
> Working class Whites are now being dumped and paid a miserable dole to make
> way for Africans. Benson quotes the example of a bus driver sacked after 17
> years service. For blue-collar Whites, "the economic trap-door has opened
> beneath them and dropped them below the poverty line. Unemployed and never
> likely to be employed, their children ragged and barefoot, dependent on
> benefits of o150 a month each, which is often not paid (the social services
> are being 'reorganised - and there's a sinister phrase!). Some families can
> no longer afford to feed themselves."
> These now rely on church soup kitchens.
>
> Apparently, whilst the violently racist anti-white politician Patricia De
> Lille says that Tony Blair has donated �20,000 to the home for sick children
> for which she works, "no-one," says Benson, "is digging in their pockets to
> help poor Whites. They are off the end of Mandela's rainbow, without a pot
> of
> gold in sight."
>
> The Government in the new South Africa is intolerant of opposition.
> According to white Democratic Party opposition leader Tony Leon, "they want
> everyone to
> be 'on side'. If you criticise them - and we do vigorously - they call you
> neo-nazi racists" (a strange epithet considering that Leon is Jewish). It
> seems that even Patricia De Lille - whose Pan-Africanist Party's slogan is
> "One settler [i.e. white person], one bullet" - has been "battered by this
> accusation." The cause? She has been taking the ANC Government and its
> Ministers to task for the stupendous corruption whereby they have turned
> themselves and their most privileged supporters into a new class of fat cats
> (all very typical of post-colonial Africa).
>
> Free school lunches promised by Mandela fail to reach the children; family
> allowances are not paid; council houses are so jerry-built they are
> virtually
> uninhabitable. But when these failures come under criticism as in the case
> of de Lille the response of the Government under the new president Mbeki is
> to
> threaten her with expulsion from parliament for being 'racist', and bring in
> legislation to outlaw criticism of a person's 'private life' which might
> "impair their dignity." De Lille asks where the money for these public
> projects went, and answers "into someone's pocket."
>
> There was corruption under South Africa's ancient regime, as there is any
> country in the world under any government. But it was never, as it is today,
> on a scale sufficient to cause the collapse of whole areas of public
> administration.
>
> In a nutshell, then, thanks to Ross Benson, we now have an overview of the
> 'New South Africa' from which to take stock. What we see is a picture of
> vicious and exploding crime, of chaos verging on anarchy, of corruption and
> incompetence way beyond anything in the country's past, and of the racial
> harassment and persecution of the white minority - the people who actually
> built the country in the first place, and without whom there would have been
> literally nothing for their successors to take over and bring to ruin.
>
> It is not a picture which those with their heads screwed on the right way
> did not predict, decades ago, as the likely outcome of majority rule -
> though
> such people were then, and would still now be, vilified as "right-wing,
> racist reactionaries." or worse. Such a fate has come upon Ross Benson, who
> has been roundly denounced in sections of the South African media, according
> to a second article by correspondent David Jones, also writing from
> Johannesburg, published in the Mail two weeks after his own.
>
> Backlash
>
> The Mail's own letters page witnessed a similar backlash of censorious
> intolerance in the week following the publication of Benson's report. This
> response looked a little like a co-ordinated 'write-in' against Benson by
> aggrieved ANC supporters in Britain. This was in spite of Jones'
> characterisation of his piece as a "painfully accurate article about the
> demise of post-apartheid South Africa." It is worth pointing out that
> neither
> Benson nor Jones have any record of being 'racists' or supporters of
> apartheid - something that ought to be self-evident, to those in the know,
> by
> the fact that they have access to the columns of a major national newspaper
> like the Daily Mail.
>
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