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F1 gemors [boodskap #103963] Ma, 20 Junie 2005 06:39 na volgende boodskap
Annette  is tans af-lyn  Annette
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Selde is so baie mense deur so min gemanipuleer om gedwee na so 'n groot
gemors te kyk.
Ek is net bly dat ek nie betaalTV gebruik het om daarna te kyk nie.
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Re: F1 gemors [boodskap #103964 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #103963] Ma, 20 Junie 2005 06:50 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
Deneile  is tans af-lyn  Deneile
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Wat het aangegaan? Toe ek oorskakel toe is die wedren klaar. Vanoggend net
so vinnig gehoor daar was konsternasie!

D

"Annette" skryf in boodskap news:d95obq$rhr$2@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
> Selde is so baie mense deur so min gemanipuleer om gedwee na so 'n groot
> gemors te kyk.
> Ek is net bly dat ek nie betaalTV gebruik het om daarna te kyk nie.
> --
> Groetnis
> Annette
>
Re: F1 gemors [boodskap #103969 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #103964] Ma, 20 Junie 2005 07:22 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
Annette  is tans af-lyn  Annette
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Ek koppie en pyst nou sommer van 'n ander kol.
Die wat nie Engels wil lees of kan verstaan nie, moet maar vir lief neem:

JUNE 19, 2005
Chaos and incredulity in Indiana
Weens 'n probleem wat verskeie spanne met hul bandevoorsiener Michelin het,
het daardie spanne na die paraderondte van vanaand se VSA Grand Prix die
kuipe binnegegaan en slegs ses motors gelos om die resies te voltooi......

Only six cars start U.S. Grand Prix
Sun Jun 19, 2005 03:06 PM ET
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By Alan Baldwin

INDIANAPOLIS (Reuters) - Only six cars started the U.S. Grand Prix on Sunday
after a fiasco over tire safety forced seven out of 10 teams to pull out
after the warm-up lap.

The seven had earlier said they would only race if an extra chicane was
installed to slow down the cars because of concern over the durability of
Michelin's tires.

"This is going to leave a long-lasting bitter taste in people's mouths," Red
Bull driver David Coulthard told Britain's ITV television. "Quite frankly,
as a driver, I'm embarrassed to be involved in this situation.

"The fact is that mature adults were not able to put on a show for
everybody. It's a very sad day for racing."

The sport's governing body ruled out the chicane while champions Ferrari
were also against the idea. The six cars that started the race were those on
Bridgestone tires, including Ferrari's world champion Michael Schumacher.

Schumacher's younger brother Ralf of Toyota was forced to miss the race
after crashing heavily in Friday's practice when his rear left tire suddenly
deflated on the high-speed banked final corner before the pit straight.

Boos rang out from the stands at the Brickyard track, which were packed with
up to 120,000 spectators, as the Ferrari, Jordan and Minardi cars roared
past.

"It's a big frustration for the whole team, the drivers, for Formula One in
general, especially in front of the U.S. fans," said Italian Jarno Trulli
who had taken his Toyota to pole position.

"But we couldn't avoid this situation -- we were in danger and we knew it.
It was very clear that Michelin runners couldn't race today."

SECOND FIDDLE

JUNE 19, 2005
It's a six car disaster
Formula 1 has committed suicide in the United States of America. At the end
of the parade lap for the United States Grand Prix, the Michelin teams all
headed into the pitlane and retired, leaving the huge crowd to watch two
Ferraris, two Jordans and two Minardis. The Michelin teams say that they had
no choice because it was impossible to race on the tyres which the rules
allow the teams to use.

The fans aat Indianapolis looked on in incredulity at what had happened.

The tens of thousands of fans who have paid for not just tickets but also
travel and hotels are unlikely to come back in the future.

The sport only has it self to blame.

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns15066.html

JUNE 19, 2005
Chaos and incredulity in Indiana
With half an hour to go before the start of the United States Grand Prix
there is no sign as to what is going to happen. Our understanding is that if
there is no chicane 18 of the cars will stay in the garages and only Ferrari
will take up its grid positions. If there is a chicane, so goes the theory,
Ferrari will not be there. There is talk that the race will be run as a
non-championship event but at the moment nothing is clear and the crowd of
160,000 is innocently waiting hoping to see a motor race.

JUNE 19, 2005
It's a six car disaster
Formula 1 has committed suicide in the United States of America. At the end
of the parade lap for the United States Grand Prix, the Michelin teams all
headed into the pitlane and retired, leaving the huge crowd to watch two
Ferraris, two Jordans and two Minardis. The Michelin teams say that they had
no choice because it was impossible to race on the tyres which the rules
allow the teams to use.

The fans aat Indianapolis looked on in incredulity at what had happened.

The tens of thousands of fans who have paid for not just tickets but also
travel and hotels are unlikely to come back in the future.

The sport only has it self to blame.

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns15066.html

--
Groetnis
Annette

"Deneile" skryf in boodskap news:d95ov1$t01$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
> Wat het aangegaan? Toe ek oorskakel toe is die wedren klaar. Vanoggend net
> so vinnig gehoor daar was konsternasie!
>
>
> D
>
>
> "Annette" wrote in message
> news:d95obq$rhr$2@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
>> Selde is so baie mense deur so min gemanipuleer om gedwee na so 'n groot
>> gemors te kyk.
>> Ek is net bly dat ek nie betaalTV gebruik het om daarna te kyk nie.
>> --
>> Groetnis
>> Annette
>>
>
Re: F1 gemors [boodskap #103972 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #103969] Ma, 20 Junie 2005 08:00 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
Deneile  is tans af-lyn  Deneile
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Dankie Annette

"Annette" skryf in boodskap news:d95r3g$49n$2@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
> Ek koppie en pyst nou sommer van 'n ander kol.
> Die wat nie Engels wil lees of kan verstaan nie, moet maar vir lief neem:
>
> JUNE 19, 2005
> Chaos and incredulity in Indiana
> Weens 'n probleem wat verskeie spanne met hul bandevoorsiener Michelin
> het,
> het daardie spanne na die paraderondte van vanaand se VSA Grand Prix die
> kuipe binnegegaan en slegs ses motors gelos om die resies te voltooi......
>
> Only six cars start U.S. Grand Prix
> Sun Jun 19, 2005 03:06 PM ET
> Printer Friendly | Email Article | Reprints | RSS (Page 1 of 2)
>
> Top News
> Baghdad diner bombed; U.S. troops press offensive
> Bush fighting to regain confidence of Americans
> CIA has 'excellent' idea where bin Laden is -Time
>
>
> MORE
>
> By Alan Baldwin
>
> INDIANAPOLIS (Reuters) - Only six cars started the U.S. Grand Prix on
> Sunday
> after a fiasco over tire safety forced seven out of 10 teams to pull out
> after the warm-up lap.
>
> The seven had earlier said they would only race if an extra chicane was
> installed to slow down the cars because of concern over the durability of
> Michelin's tires.
>
> "This is going to leave a long-lasting bitter taste in people's mouths,"
> Red
> Bull driver David Coulthard told Britain's ITV television. "Quite frankly,
> as a driver, I'm embarrassed to be involved in this situation.
>
> "The fact is that mature adults were not able to put on a show for
> everybody. It's a very sad day for racing."
>
> The sport's governing body ruled out the chicane while champions Ferrari
> were also against the idea. The six cars that started the race were those
> on
> Bridgestone tires, including Ferrari's world champion Michael Schumacher.
>
> Schumacher's younger brother Ralf of Toyota was forced to miss the race
> after crashing heavily in Friday's practice when his rear left tire
> suddenly
> deflated on the high-speed banked final corner before the pit straight.
>
> Boos rang out from the stands at the Brickyard track, which were packed
> with
> up to 120,000 spectators, as the Ferrari, Jordan and Minardi cars roared
> past.
>
> "It's a big frustration for the whole team, the drivers, for Formula One
> in
> general, especially in front of the U.S. fans," said Italian Jarno Trulli
> who had taken his Toyota to pole position.
>
> "But we couldn't avoid this situation -- we were in danger and we knew it.
> It was very clear that Michelin runners couldn't race today."
>
>
> SECOND FIDDLE
>
> JUNE 19, 2005
> It's a six car disaster
> Formula 1 has committed suicide in the United States of America. At the
> end
> of the parade lap for the United States Grand Prix, the Michelin teams all
> headed into the pitlane and retired, leaving the huge crowd to watch two
> Ferraris, two Jordans and two Minardis. The Michelin teams say that they
> had
> no choice because it was impossible to race on the tyres which the rules
> allow the teams to use.
>
> The fans aat Indianapolis looked on in incredulity at what had happened.
>
> The tens of thousands of fans who have paid for not just tickets but also
> travel and hotels are unlikely to come back in the future.
>
> The sport only has it self to blame.
>
> http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns15066.html
>
>
> JUNE 19, 2005
> Chaos and incredulity in Indiana
> With half an hour to go before the start of the United States Grand Prix
> there is no sign as to what is going to happen. Our understanding is that
> if
> there is no chicane 18 of the cars will stay in the garages and only
> Ferrari
> will take up its grid positions. If there is a chicane, so goes the
> theory,
> Ferrari will not be there. There is talk that the race will be run as a
> non-championship event but at the moment nothing is clear and the crowd of
> 160,000 is innocently waiting hoping to see a motor race.
>
> JUNE 19, 2005
> It's a six car disaster
> Formula 1 has committed suicide in the United States of America. At the
> end
> of the parade lap for the United States Grand Prix, the Michelin teams all
> headed into the pitlane and retired, leaving the huge crowd to watch two
> Ferraris, two Jordans and two Minardis. The Michelin teams say that they
> had
> no choice because it was impossible to race on the tyres which the rules
> allow the teams to use.
>
> The fans aat Indianapolis looked on in incredulity at what had happened.
>
> The tens of thousands of fans who have paid for not just tickets but also
> travel and hotels are unlikely to come back in the future.
>
> The sport only has it self to blame.
>
> http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns15066.html
>
>
>
> --
> Groetnis
> Annette
> "Deneile" wrote in message
> news:d95ov1$t01$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
>> Wat het aangegaan? Toe ek oorskakel toe is die wedren klaar. Vanoggend net
>> so vinnig gehoor daar was konsternasie!


>> D


>> "Annette" wrote in message
>> news:d95obq$rhr$2@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
>>> Selde is so baie mense deur so min gemanipuleer om gedwee na so 'n
>>> groot
>>> gemors te kyk.
>>> Ek is net bly dat ek nie betaalTV gebruik het om daarna te kyk nie.
>>> --
>>> Groetnis
>>> Annette
>>>
>
Re: F1 gemors [boodskap #103973 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #103963] Ma, 20 Junie 2005 09:00 Na vorige boodskap
PietR  is tans af-lyn  PietR
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Ek sien die pers gooi blaam oral rond, die belangrikste vir Ferrari wat nie
die 'chicane' wou toelaat op die pylvak nie. Die reëls van vanjaar se
kampioenskap is egter duidelik uitgespel: Jou bande moet hou vir
kwalifisering 'n vir die volle wedren. Verander jy 'n band vir rede van
slytasie gedurende die wedren, is daar 'n 'penalty' aan verbonde. Michelin
het met bande na Indianapolis gekom wat se sykante nie sterk genoeg was om
die druk van die vinnige 'banked' draai te vat nie. Hulle reken toe hulle
bande is nie veilig nie en beveel aan dat geeneen van die spanne wat sy
bande gebruik, nie moet jaag nie tensy daar 'n 'chicane' op die pylvak
ingebou word om die spoed af te bring tot veilige vlakke nie.
Nou, vroeër vanjaar het Ferrari ernstige probleme gehad om 'n wedren te
voltooi met hulle bande en het Schumacher in een wedren bin e twee rondtes
beide sy linker voor en agterband verloor. Die ander se reaksie was 'n
halwe glimlag en 'n 'die reëls is dieselfde vir almal'. Gister was dit
weer so. Die karre met Michelin moes net die volgende gedoen het, dan was
hulle doodveilig:
1. Die bande moes harder gepomp word sodat die 'sidewalls' onder hoë druk
minder kwesbaar is .
2. Hulle moes die draai stadiger vat [1 en 2 beteken 4 sek per rondte
stadiger...ghoebaai Ferrari!].
3. Hulle kon in die middel van die wedren ingekom het en 'n stel nuwe
bande opgesit het en 'n 25 sek 'penalty' gevat het.
Uiteindelik het Ferrari geen skuld aan die hele storie nie.

"Annette" skryf in boodskap news:d95obq$rhr$2@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
> Selde is so baie mense deur so min gemanipuleer om gedwee na so 'n groot
> gemors te kyk.
> Ek is net bly dat ek nie betaalTV gebruik het om daarna te kyk nie.
> --
> Groetnis
> Annette
>
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