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Kinship List - Ansela (N.N.) - 24 Nov 2000
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Relative Relationship
(N.N.),-17768 Spouse of sixth great grandson
BOTHA, Catharina Elizabeth-6208 Spouse of fourth great grandson
BOTHA, Catharina Elizabeth-6208 Fourth great granddaughter
BOTHA, Hester Carolina-21077 Third great granddaughter
BOTHA, Pieter Johannes-6207 Spouse of third great granddaughter
BOTHA, Rudolph Philippus-21210 Spouse of second great granddaughter
BRUMMER, Andries Johannes-17815 Fifth great grandson
BRUMMER, Anna Francina-17691 Eighth great granddaughter
BRUMMER, Anna Jacoba Helena-17803 Fourth great granddaughter
BRUMMER, Anna Jacoba Margaretha-17817 Fifth great granddaughter
BRUMMER, Anna Magdalena-17822 Sixth great granddaughter
BRUMMER, Berindina Johanna-17750 Sixth great granddaughter
BRUMMER, Catharina Elizabeth-6634 Third great granddaughter
BRUMMER, Catharina Johanna Fredrika-17806 Fourth great granddaughter
BRUMMER, Catherina Louisa-17755 Sixth great granddaughter
BRUMMER, Cornelia Johanna-17772 Sixth great granddaughter
BRUMMER, Cornelia Johanna-17816 Fifth great granddaughter
BRUMMER, Diana Alida-17792 Fourth great granddaughter
BRUMMER, Diederick Arnoldus Gerhardus-6632 Third great grandson
BRUMMER, Diederik Johannes Gerhardus-17804 Fourth great grandson
BRUMMER, Diederik Johannes Gerhardus-17814 Fifth great grandson
BRUMMER, Elizabeth Catharina-17802 Fourth great granddaughter
BRUMMER, Elsie Aletta Henrietta-17823 Sixth great granddaughter
BRUMMER, Emanuel Theodorus-17748 Seventh great grandson
BRUMMER, Helena Margaretha-6633 Third great granddaughter
BRUMMER, Hendrik Pieter-17753 Seventh great grandson
BRUMMER, Hendrina Johanna-17751 Seventh great granddaughter
BRUMMER, Hester Elizabeth-17749 Seventh great granddaughter
BRUMMER, Hester-Johanna Jacoba Petronella-17764 Eighth great
granddaughter
BRUMMER, Isabella Petronella-17767 Eighth great granddaughter
BRUMMER, Jacobus Johannes-17773 Seventh great grandson
BRUMMER, Jacobus Johannes-17791 Fourth great grandson
BRUMMER, Jacobus Johannes-17812 Fifth great grandson
BRUMMER, Jacobus Johannes-17824 Sixth great grandson
BRUMMER, Jacobus Lewies-17762 Seventh great grandson
BRUMMER, Johann Wichard-6625 Spouse of second great granddaughter
BRUMMER, Johanna Catharina Sophia-17805 Fourth great granddaughter
BRUMMER, Johanna Samuela-17771 Sixth great granddaughter
BRUMMER, Johannes Gerhardus-6631 Third great grandson
BRUMMER, Johannes Gerhardus-17760 Seventh great grandson
BRUMMER, Johannes Gerhardus-17763 Eighth great grandson
BRUMMER, Johannes Gerhardus-17810 Fifth great grandson
BRUMMER, Johannes Gerhardus-17821 Sixth great grandson
BRUMMER, Johannes Gerhardus (Hans)-17784 Third great grandson
BRUMMER, Johannes Jacobus Wellman-17808 Fourth great grandson
BRUMMER, Martha Maria-17827 Fourth great granddaughter
BRUMMER, Michiel Johan Wieghard-6635 Third great grandson
BRUMMER, Nicolaas Johannes Everhardus-17811 Fifth great grandson
BRUMMER, Petrus Benjamin-17752 Seventh great grandson
BRUMMER, Rhoda-17769 Sixth great granddaughter
BRUMMER, Samuel Johannes Albertus-17813 Fifth great grandson
BRUMMER, Stephanus Johannes-17757 Seventh great grandson
BRUMMER, Susanna Christina-17807 Fourth great granddaughter
BRUMMER, Violet-17759 Seventh great granddaughter
BRUMMER, Violet-17761 Eighth great granddaughter
BRUMMER, Wilhelmina Johanna-17756 Seventh great granddaughter
BRUMMER, Zacharia Margaretha-6619 Third great granddaughter
BRUMMER, Zagaria Margaretha-17790 Fourth great granddaughter
CAMPHER, Agnita-9205 Daughter
CAMPHER, Lourens-9214 Spouse
DU PLESSIS, Elsie Francina-18165 Spouse of fifth great grandson
DU PLESSIS, Geertruy Margaretha Sophia-6189 Spouse of second great
grandson
DU PLESSIS, Gesina S.F.W.-18166 Spouse of fifth great grandson
ENGELBRECHT, Aletta Geertruyda-21046 Fifth great granddaughter
ENGELBRECHT, Petrus Rasmus-21082 Spouse of fourth great granddaughter
ERASMUS, Catharina Elizabeth-21079 Fourth great granddaughter
ERASMUS, Johannes Jacobus-21078 Spouse of third great granddaughter
EYKHOFF, Maria Magdalena-9185 Spouse of grandson
GROBLER, Petronella Ingenazina-6201 Spouse of fifth great grandson
HAVENGA, Christiaan Adriaan-21045 Spouse of fifth great granddaughter
HAVENGA, Nicolaas Christina-21047 Sixth great grandson
JOUBERT, Susanna Sophia Elizabeth-6205 Spouse of sixth great grandson
KLOPPERS, Aletta Margaretha Francina-19270 Spouse of sixth great
grandson
KRUGER, Anna Elsie Aletta-17820 Spouse of fifth great grandson
KRUGER, Casper Jan Hendrik-9157 Fourth great grandson
KRUGER, Casper Johannes Hendrik-18162 Fourth great grandson
KRUGER, Gerrit Johannes-19222 Fourth great grandson
KRUGER, Jannetje-Levina Catharina Francina-19218 Fifth great
granddaughter
KRUGER, Stephanus Johannes-9159 Spouse of third great granddaughter
KRUGER, Stephanus Johannes Paulus-9156 Fifth great grandson
LOUBSER, Catharina Louisa-17809 Spouse of fourth great grandson
LOUW, Anna Jacoba Margaretha-17789 Spouse of third great grandson
NIEMAND, Christella-17689 Ninth great granddaughter
NIEMAND, Pieter Jacobus-17690 Ninth great grandson
NIEMAND, Pieter Jacobus-17692 Spouse of eighth great granddaughter
OBERHOLSTER, Abraham-21103 Spouse of great granddaughter
OBERHOLSTER, Elisabeth-21174 Second great granddaughter
OBERHOLSTER, Elsje-21190 Second great granddaughter
OBERHOLSTER, Johannes-21102 Second great grandson
OBERHOLTZER, Cecilia Jacomina-21191 Second great granddaughter
OBERHOLTZER, Jacomina-21209 Second great granddaughter
OBERHOLTZER, Johanna Sophia-21208 Second great granddaughter
PELSER, Elizabeth Catharina Johanna-19221 Spouse of fourth great
grandson
POTGIETER, Frederik Jacobus-19223 Sixth great grandson
POTGIETER, Hermanus Philippus-19217 Spouse of fifth great granddaughter
PREVOT, Maria-21076 Spouse of grandson
PUTTER, Anna Catharina-17694 Great granddaughter
PUTTER, Anna Christina-6206 Third great granddaughter
PUTTER, Anna Elizabeth-17701 Second great granddaughter
PUTTER, Arnoldus-17697 Great grandson
PUTTER, Catharina Elisabeth-17775 Second great granddaughter
PUTTER, Diederik Johannes-6190 Second great grandson
PUTTER, Gerrit-9172 Spouse of great granddaughter
PUTTER, Gerrit-9172 Spouse of great granddaughter
PUTTER, Gerrit-9172 Great grandson
PUTTER, Jan Lodewyk-5955 Spouse of granddaughter
PUTTER, Johanna Alida-17698 Great granddaughter
PUTTER, Johannes Diederyk-6191 Spouse of great granddaughter
PUTTER, Johannes Diederyk-6191 Great grandson
PUTTER, Johannes Gerhardus-17700 Second great grandson
PUTTER, Lodewyk Arnoldus-17779 Second great grandson
PUTTER, Margaretha Sophia-6193 Third great granddaughter
PUTTER, Maria-17695 Great granddaughter
PUTTER, Maria Jacomina-17777 Second great granddaughter
PUTTER, Maria Magdalena-9164 Second great granddaughter
PUTTER, Maria Magdalena-17702 Second great granddaughter
PUTTER, Martha Christina-17780 Second great granddaughter
PUTTER, Sophia Jacoba-17778 Second great granddaughter
PUTTER, Zacharia-17693 Great granddaughter
PUTTER, Zacharia Margaretha-6618 Second great granddaughter
ROBBERTSE, Daniel Jacobus-6194 Spouse of third great granddaughter
ROBBERTSE, Joseph Jacobus-6197 Fourth great grandson
ROBBERTSE, Joseph Jacobus-6197 Spouse of fourth great granddaughter
ROBBERTSE, Paul Magiel-6204 Sixth great grandson
ROBBERTSE, Pieter Johannes-6200 Fifth great grandson
SMITH, Christina Isabella-17766 Spouse of seventh great grandson
STEENKAMP, Casper Jan Hendrik-9163 Spouse of second great granddaughter
STEENKAMP, Sophia Margaretha-9160 Third great granddaughter
STEYN, Elsie Francina-9158 Spouse of fourth great grandson
STEYN, Elsie Francina-18163 Spouse of fourth great grandson
VAN DER SWAAN, Anna-6617 Granddaughter
VAN DER SWAAN, Gerrit-6340 Spouse of daughter
VAN WIJK, Agnita Elisabeth-17801 Great granddaughter
VAN WIJK, Anna-21104 Great granddaughter
VAN WIJK, Anna Cecilia-17835 Great granddaughter
VAN WIJK, Arie Willem-21207 Great grandson
VAN WIJK, Catharina Elizabeth-6192 Great granddaughter
VAN WIJK, Catharina Elizabeth-6192 Spouse of great grandson
VAN WIJK, Christina Magdalena-17836 Great granddaughter
VAN WIJK, Christoffel Hendrik-17838 Great grandson
VAN WIJK, Elsie-21206 Great granddaughter
VAN WIJK, Gerrit Mathijs-17819 Great grandson
VAN WIJK, Jacoba-17829 Great granddaughter
VAN WIJK, Jacomina-17828 Great granddaughter
VAN WIJK, Maria Elizabeth-21182 Great granddaughter
VAN WIJK, Maria Margaretha-17800 Great granddaughter
VAN WIJK, Martha Elisabeth-17837 Great granddaughter
VAN WIJK, Sophia-17699 Great granddaughter
VAN WIJK, Sophia-17699 Spouse of great grandson
VAN WYK, Arie-9040 Spouse of daughter
VAN WYK, Gerrit-9184 Grandson
VAN WYK, Sophia-9173 Great granddaughter
VAN WYK, Sophia-9173 Spouse of great grandson
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| Re: Famile verwantskap van Ansela (van die kaap) [boodskap #37178 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #37075] |
Sun, 26 November 2000 00:00  |
Davie Davis[2]
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On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 21:35:04 GMT, Sue wrote:
> In article , davie...@email.com
> says...
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>>> Relative Relationship
>>> (N.N.),-17768 Spouse of sixth great grandson
>>> BOTHA, Catharina Elizabeth-6208 Spouse of fourth great grandson
>>> BOTHA, Catharina Elizabeth-6208 Fourth great granddaughter
>>> BOTHA, Hester Carolina-21077 Third great granddaughter
>>> ens. ens. ens. en. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens.
>> En 'Miss Pless' ? Volgens my data is die dame Pless 'n
>> agterkleindogter van 'n Du Plessis boer.
>> Wat sê joune?
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> Myne se sy was 'n agterkleindogter van neef Gelderblom. Maar miskien het
> Mnr Du Plessis en madame Gelderblom 'n goeie verhouding gehad?
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> Wees versigtig vir die Du Plessis boere ne - ek ken 'n ou omie wat se
> plaas se naam "Vat nie kak" is nie. Ken jy hom ook? :-)
> Dit is RERIG sy plaas se naam - daar in Noord Transvaal, ek dink hulle
> noem daardie deel nou al iets anders.
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En jy vat nou nie kak van Miss Pless se reputasie nie ná Sue?
Noord Transvaal word nou genoem Mpumalanga wat in die lokale swart
taal (dink dis tswana) verwys na 'waar die son opkom' siende dat dit
'n heel oostelike streek is.
DD
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| Re: Famile verwantskap van Ansela (van die kaap) [boodskap #37179 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #37075] |
Sun, 26 November 2000 00:00 |
Tobie
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Wat van die De Villierse van die Paarl? Kom ons kyk of jou
databasis dieselfde sê as myne.
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E Bessinger wrote in message
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:Kinship List - Ansela (N.N.) - 24 Nov 2000
Relative Relationship
(N.N.),-17768 Spouse of sixth great grandson
BOTHA, Catharina Elizabeth-6208 Spouse of fourth great
grandson
BOTHA, Catharina Elizabeth-6208 Fourth great granddaughter
ETC.
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| Re: Famile verwantskap van Ansela (van die kaap) [boodskap #37180 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #37075] |
Sun, 26 November 2000 00:00 |
Davie Davis[2]
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On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 13:41:30 +0200, "E Bessinger" wrote:
> Kinship List - Ansela (N.N.) - 24 Nov 2000
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> Relative Relationship
> (N.N.),-17768 Spouse of sixth great grandson
> BOTHA, Catharina Elizabeth-6208 Spouse of fourth great grandson
> BOTHA, Catharina Elizabeth-6208 Fourth great granddaughter
> BOTHA, Hester Carolina-21077 Third great granddaughter
> ens. ens. ens. en. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens.
En 'Miss Pless' ? Volgens my data is die dame Pless 'n
agterkleindogter van 'n Du Plessis boer.
Wat sê joune?
DD
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| Re: Famile verwantskap van Ansela (van die kaap) [boodskap #37237 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #37075] |
Mon, 27 November 2000 00:00 |
Ernst v Biljon
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As jy nie errs die uitlek van SA ken sien ek probleme vir jou. Probeer
weer (hind - Noord Transvaal mag miskien iets met Northen Province te
doen hê)
"Davie Davis" skryf in boodskap news:3a218eff.2768663@news.intekom.co.za...
> On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 21:35:04 GMT, Sue wrote:
>
>> In article , davie...@email.com
>> says...
>>
>>>> Relative Relationship
>>>> (N.N.),-17768 Spouse of sixth great grandson
>>>> BOTHA, Catharina Elizabeth-6208 Spouse of fourth great grandson
>>>> BOTHA, Catharina Elizabeth-6208 Fourth great granddaughter
>>>> BOTHA, Hester Carolina-21077 Third great granddaughter
>>>> ens. ens. ens. en. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens.
ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens. ens.
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>>> En 'Miss Pless' ? Volgens my data is die dame Pless 'n
>>> agterkleindogter van 'n Du Plessis boer.
>>> Wat sê joune?
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>> Myne se sy was 'n agterkleindogter van neef Gelderblom. Maar miskien het
>> Mnr Du Plessis en madame Gelderblom 'n goeie verhouding gehad?
>>
>> Wees versigtig vir die Du Plessis boere ne - ek ken 'n ou omie wat se
>> plaas se naam "Vat nie kak" is nie. Ken jy hom ook? :-)
>> Dit is RERIG sy plaas se naam - daar in Noord Transvaal, ek dink hulle
>> noem daardie deel nou al iets anders.
>>
>>
> En jy vat nou nie kak van Miss Pless se reputasie nie ná Sue?
>
> Noord Transvaal word nou genoem Mpumalanga wat in die lokale swart
> taal (dink dis tswana) verwys na 'waar die son opkom' siende dat dit
> 'n heel oostelike streek is.
>
> DD
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| Re: Famile verwantskap van Ansela (van die kaap) [boodskap #37238 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #37075] |
Mon, 27 November 2000 00:00 |
lou[1]
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Davie Davis wrote:
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> Noord Transvaal word nou genoem Mpumalanga wat in die lokale swart
> taal (dink dis tswana) verwys na 'waar die son opkom' siende dat dit
> 'n heel oostelike streek is.
>
> DD
Hmm so maklik is dit ook nou nie - die ou Noord Transvaal val meestal in
Gauteng en Noordelike Provinsie met klein deeltjies in Mpumalanga en
NoordWes provinsie.
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| Re: Famile verwantskap van Ansela (van die kaap) [boodskap #37239 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #37075] |
Mon, 27 November 2000 00:00 |
Ernst v Biljon
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Wat wil jy nou eintlik oor die de Villiers familie hê? Will jy weet of
Ansela deel van die familie is of wat?
"Tobie" skryf in boodskap news:8vrraj$27e$1@nnrp01.ops.uunet.co.za...
> Wat van die De Villierse van die Paarl? Kom ons kyk of jou
> databasis dieselfde sê as myne.
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> E Bessinger wrote in message
> ...
> :Kinship List - Ansela (N.N.) - 24 Nov 2000
> Relative Relationship
> (N.N.),-17768 Spouse of sixth great grandson
> BOTHA, Catharina Elizabeth-6208 Spouse of fourth great
> grandson
> BOTHA, Catharina Elizabeth-6208 Fourth great granddaughter
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> ETC.
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| Re: Famile verwantskap van Ansela (van die kaap) [boodskap #37315 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #37075] |
Tue, 28 November 2000 00:00 |
Tobie
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E Bessinger wrote
:Wat wil jy nou eintlik oor die de Villiers familie hê?
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Hoeveel op die stamvader en sy nageslag het jy?
Stamvader: Abraham de Villiers land innie Kaap 6-5-1689
tot
Tobias Mostert de Villiers * 9-1-1818
Dit sal egter interesant wees om the sien wat jy het in
ooreenstemming met Con de Villiers se naslaan werk. Oom Con
sal natuurlik nou nie van die 'ander' kinders skryf nie.
Terwyl jy dan nou so die verbastering onder die mense se
aandag bring, kyk sommer onder die Cilliers (met die 'rs')
van Wellington. Ek dink daar was meskien baie kruisbestywing
hier in die Boland :-)
Groete
Ns. As jy 'n plek het oppie NET waar mens kan gaan kyk na
argiewe, sê maar, dan sal ek maar met my muis deur die
geelbladsye gaan loop.
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| Re: Famile verwantskap van Ansela (van die kaap) [boodskap #37316 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #37075] |
Tue, 28 November 2000 00:00 |
Davie Davis[2]
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On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 06:31:45 +0200, "E Bessinger" wrote:
> As jy nie errs die uitlek van SA ken sien ek probleme vir jou. Probeer
> weer (hind - Noord Transvaal mag miskien iets met Northen Province te
> doen hê)
>
Dit het nou uitgelek dat jou spelling beroerd is.
> "Davie Davis" wrote in message
> news:3a218eff.2768663@news.intekom.co.za...
>> On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 21:35:04 GMT, Sue wrote:
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| Re: Famile verwantskap van Ansela (van die kaap) [boodskap #37376 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #37075] |
Wed, 29 November 2000 00:00 |
Ernst v Biljon
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Tobie, ek wag nog steeds dat jy my vertel watter inligting jy eintlik
soek. Van die maatskappy naam waarvan jy stuur is jy sonder werk of
sonder ryding. Watter een?
"Tobie" skryf in boodskap news:8vrraj$27e$1@nnrp01.ops.uunet.co.za...
> Wat van die De Villierse van die Paarl? Kom ons kyk of jou
> databasis dieselfde sê as myne.
>
> --
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> E Bessinger wrote in message
> ...
> :Kinship List - Ansela (N.N.) - 24 Nov 2000
> Relative Relationship
> (N.N.),-17768 Spouse of sixth great grandson
> BOTHA, Catharina Elizabeth-6208 Spouse of fourth great
> grandson
> BOTHA, Catharina Elizabeth-6208 Fourth great granddaughter
>
>
> ETC.
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