| Re: Gun laws that constrain the law-abiding [boodskap #113073] |
Tue, 20 February 2007 09:55  |
PietR
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Hierdie storie vlek maar net weer die ou probleem oop en dit is myns insiens
dat die mens die blaam op die gereedskap en nie op homself plaas nie. As
'n moordenaar wil moor, sal hy dit doen met wat ookal tot sy beskikking is.
Klip, mens, vuurwapen, watookal. Deur streng vuurwapenbeheer toe te pas,
vat jy die wetsgehoorsames vas en wat bereik jy eintlik? Hierdie mense
gaan in elk geval nie die wapens gebruik vir misdaad nie. Dat daar minder
wapens gesteel word uit private huise en so in die hande van die misdadigers
val? Stront. Die misdadiger het sy doel en hy sal 'n vuurwapen kry
wanneer hy dit nodig het. Deur minder vuurwapens in 'ordentlike' hande toe
te laat, beweeg hulle die magsewewig eenvoudig net oor na die misdadigers se
kant toe!
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> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2 007/02/16/dl1601.xml
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> For James Andre Smartt-Ford, 16, Michael Dosunmu, 15, and Billy Cox,
> 15, the hand-wringing by police and politicians over the escalation of
> gun crime comes a little late: all three have been shot dead in south
> London over the past 10 days.
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> Public revulsion over such criminality is, shamingly, blunted by the
> fact that they appear to be victims of ethnic gang crime. Society at
> large sees it as "their" problem, not its own. Such a view is
> criminally complacent.
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> We have, post-Dunblane, what are said to be the toughest gun control
> laws in the world. They have actually proved strikingly ineffectual.
>
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> Gun crime has doubled since they were introduced. Young hoodlums are
> able to acquire handguns - either replica weapons that have been
> converted, or imports from eastern Europe - with ease. With no
> dedicated frontier police, our borders remain hopelessly porous. The
> only people currently incommoded by the firearms laws are legitimate
> holders of shotgun licences, who are subjected to the most onerous
> police checks.
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> Even more disturbing is the insouciance with which guns are used. An
> 18-year-old Angolan refugee was sentenced to life this week for
> shooting dead a woman holding a baby at a christening party, in what
> was otherwise a "routine" robbery.
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> The truth is that the laws relating to possession of guns are nowhere
> near tough enough. Possessing a firearm carries a minimum sentence
> (ministers insist on calling it "mandatory", but it is not) of five
> years. That means release, in normal circumstances, after 30 months.
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> For those aged between 17 and 21, the minimum sentence is three years,
> which means release after just 18 months. Such piffling sanctions
> hardly amount to an effective deterrent to these young hoodlums. The
> police want the five-year minimum sentence extended to everyone over
> 17 and the Government should not hesitate to meet that request.
>
> But more is required. In particular, the ludicrous inhibitions placed
> on the police when it comes to exercising powers of stop and search
> have to be lifted. So must the post-Macpherson burden of political
> correctness, which makes any police officer think twice before
> challenging a young black man on the street. There is a wider failure
> here.
>
> This Government came to power with high hopes of ameliorating the
> social crisis in Britain's sink estates. These were "their people" and
> they would be rescued. But the fractured families, the inadequate
> schools, the crippling impact of welfarism, the appalling living
> conditions - all have stubbornly resisted New Labour's lacklustre
> efforts. Conditions in many inner cities have actually worsened. And
> what a price we are paying.
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| Re: Gun laws that constrain the law-abiding [boodskap #113076 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #113073] |
Tue, 20 February 2007 11:36  |
Riaan
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"Suidwester" skryf in boodskap news:eregjj$4ar$2@wblv-ip-nnrp-1.saix.net...
> Hierdie storie vlek maar net weer die ou probleem oop en dit is myns
> insiens dat die mens die blaam op die gereedskap en nie op homself plaas
> nie. As 'n moordenaar wil moor, sal hy dit doen met wat ookal tot sy
> beskikking is. Klip, mens, vuurwapen, watookal. Deur streng
> vuurwapenbeheer toe te pas, vat jy die wetsgehoorsames vas en wat bereik
> jy eintlik? Hierdie mense gaan in elk geval nie die wapens gebruik vir
> misdaad nie. Dat daar minder wapens gesteel word uit private huise en so
> in die hande van die misdadigers val? Stront. Die misdadiger het sy
> doel en hy sal 'n vuurwapen kry wanneer hy dit nodig het. Deur minder
> vuurwapens in 'ordentlike' hande toe te laat, beweeg hulle die magsewewig
> eenvoudig net oor na die misdadigers se kant toe!
Stem 100% saam met jou hieroor. Interesant ook dat in lande waar die
regering die wapen uit die publiek se hande gedwing het, dit kort daarna in
'n mense slagting ontaard het.
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