Radiospeler Radiospeler
 
Supertaal
Kom praat saam!

Tuis » Algemeen » Koeitjies & kalfies » Die SAKP/ANC artikel
Die SAKP/ANC artikel [boodskap #16792] Thu, 13 August 1998 00:00 na volgende boodskap
Gideon  is tans af-lyn  Gideon
Boodskappe: 194
Geregistreer: January 1997
Karma: 0
Senior Lid
Net vir die wat nie by die M&G webblad kan uitkom nie - hier is die artikel

O ja Ferdi - jy wou name gehad het...

Communists want peace talks with ANC

The SA Communist Party has called for urgent talks with the ANC leadership
to resolve the fast deteriorating relations between the two parties.
HOWARD BARRELL reports

THE South African Communist Party leadership has called for a special
meeting this week with Deputy President Thabo Mbeki and other top
African National Congress officials to try to resolve the crisis in relations
between the two organisations.

The SACP wants the talks to take place before an ANC national executive
committee meeting scheduled for this weekend. It has written a letter to this
effect to the ANC. The party was still waiting for the ANC's response last
Thursday,according to Jeremy Cronin, SACP deputy general secretary.

The ANC denied last Thursday having received any letter from the SACP about
a meeting and said that consequently no such talks were planned.

In speeches to the SACP congress last month, President Nelson Mandela and
Mbeki issued unprecedented public rebukes to the party, the ANC's oldest
ally, for its attacks on government economic policy and for implying in
documents that some ANC leaders are obstacles to social transformation.

Any further deterioration in relations between the two parties could lead to
serious disruption within both parties, as well as at the top levels of
government.
Membership of the two parties overlaps considerably. Five Cabinet ministers,
two deputy ministers and about 80 MPs are members of both the ANC and
SACP. The SACP has about 20 000 paid-up members and another 60 000
members on its books, many of whom also belong to the ANC.

Shortly after Mandela's and Mbeki's reprimands, the SACP leadership and ANC
national working committee decided separately it was desirable in principle
that they meet to sort out their difficulties. A month later, the SACP has
grown impatient to set a date for such talks.

The SACP wants the meeting to bring together its five top officials and the
ANC's most important leaders, according to Cronin. The SACP envisages its
delegation comprising general secretary Blade Nzimande; chair Charles
Nqakula; deputy chair Geraldine Fraser-Moleketi, who is also minister of
welfare; Cronin; and Thaba Mufamadi, treasurer. The SACP hopes the ANC
delegation would include Mbeki, ANC president; Jacob Zuma, deputy president;
secretary general Kgalema Motlanthe; deputy secretary general Thenjiwe
Mthintso; and treasurer general Mendi Msimang. Mthintso is also a prominent
SACP member, who served on its politburo, the party's top executive organ,
until last weekend.

Other SACP officials said they thought there could be some tense moments at a
meeting. "But we will stand our ground," said one.

The SACP now wants to restabilise its alliance with the ANC, and there is no
suggestion of the party withdrawing from it, two other officials told the
Mail & Guardian.

"We will not roll on to our backs. Nor will we be looking for a fight. We
want to strengthen the tripartite alliance and help lead a healthy debate
inside it," said one.

Changes in the composition of the SACP's politburo last weekend could further
complicate ANC/SACP relations before a meeting. Some observers have
interpreted the ousting from the politburo of Essop Pahad, deputy minister in
the Office of the Deputy President, and Mbhazima Shilowa, general secretary of
the Congress of South African Trade Unions, as a slight to Mbeki.

Pahad is seen by many as Mbeki's "Mr Fixit", and Shilowa as a key Mbeki ally
in the deputy president's sometimes awkward relations with parts of the trade
union movement.

But SACP officials insisted that closeness to Mbeki had nothing to do with
the fact that the central committee members voted the two men off the
politburo. The sources pointed out that Minister of Safety and Security
Sydney Mufamadi, a close Mbeki ally, had been voted back on to the politburo.

They said Pahad's exclusion resulted from his sometimes "confrontational" and
"intolerant" manner, which had soured his relations with a number of party
members. In the case of Shilowa, many party members felt he was not devoting
enough time to his SACP duties.

The rising stars of the new politburo appear to be Phillip Dexter, a young ANC
MP and former trade unionist, and Mbuya Ngwanda, general secretary of the
National Union of Metalworkers of South Africa. Both new members, they are
seen by some party members as future intellectual leading lights.

Other new members of the politburo include Yunus Carrim, an ANC MP;
Ncumiso Kondlo, an ANC MP from the Eastern Cape; Nomaindia Mfeketo, a
Cape Town municipal leader and regional ANC official; and Dipuo Mvelase, a
former Umkhonto weSizwe guerrilla who is now a security official in
Johannesburg.

Members who kept their politburo positions include Deputy Minister of Defence
Ronnie Kasrils and Gwede Mantash, general secretary of the National Union of
Mineworkers. Nzimande, Nqakula, Fraser-Moleketi, Cronin and Thaba Mufamadi
retain their politburo membership on account of their elected positions
in the party hierarchy. -- Electronic Mail&Guardian, August 11, 1998.

-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp Create Your Own Free Member Forum
Re: Die SAKP/ANC artikel [boodskap #16875 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #16792] Sun, 16 August 1998 00:00 Na vorige boodskap
ferdinand  is tans af-lyn  ferdinand
Boodskappe: 1462
Geregistreer: September 1997
Karma: 0
Senior Lid
On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:29:32 GMT, gide...@usa.net wrote:

two deputy ministers and about 80 MPs are members of both the ANC and[/color]
> SACP. The SACP has about 20 000 paid-up members and another 60 000
> members on its books, many of whom also belong to the ANC.>>

Kom ons kyk na name wat genoem is van mense wat volgens die berig ook
ANC mense in die Parlement is:

Lyk my daar is:

Blade Nzimande;
Geraldine Fraser-Moleketi, who is also minister of
> welfare;
Thenjiwe Mthintso
Essop Pahad,
Minister of Safety and Security Sydney Mufamadi,
Phillip Dexter
Yunus Carrim, an ANC MP;
Ncumiso Kondlo, an ANC MP from the Eastern Cape;
Deputy Minister of Defence Ronnie Kasrils

Die "80 LV's" sal n mens maar op gesigwaarde moet aanvaar, behalwe as
die M&G ook hulle name gegee het.

Twee vrae hierby. Dis ernstige vrae. Ek reken jy is ernstig met die
gesprek en is nie besig om kommunis kommunis te skreeu met
bybedoelinge nie.

1. Voor 1994 was daar talle stukke inligting wat aan die pers
deurgegee is van die meerderheid ANC top-leiers wat kommies sou wees.

Dink jy dit was in die algemeen vals inligting ? Sommige was wel -
soos Pallo Jordan wat gereeld as n kommie uitgewys is maar nooit een
was nie.

Of dink jy die kommies het minder geraak sedert 1994?

2. Wat beteken dit vandag om n kommunis te wees? Is dit gevaarlik vir
die samelewing? Hoekom?
Vorige onderwerp: SAKP stem saam met ANC finansiële beleid??
Volgende onderwerp: mag ek ernstig weees??
Gaan na forum:
  

[ XML-voer ] [ RSS ]

Tyd nou: Mon Dec 23 09:45:27 UTC 2024