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Re: Zuid-Afrika weigert asielzoekers uit Zimbabwe [boodskap #88748] Sa, 03 Januarie 2004 18:11 na volgende boodskap
Willem-Jan Markerink  is tans af-lyn  Willem-Jan Markerink
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"Cees Camphuis" wrote in news:bt5uuh$67m$1
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> Volgens de Volkskrant weigert Zuid-Afrika asielzoekers uit Zimbabwe toegang
> tot het land. Is dit goed of slecht?
>
>
>

Het boeit iig de RARA-verziekers van weleer geen ene reet.
Regtsch regime met op schrift gezet etnisch onderscheid is fout, slinx regime
met 'modernste grondwet ter wereld' die alle regels aan haar laars lapt is
goed.

The holocaust is in your own backyard, Mr Mandela, not in Iraq....senile
hypocrite summa cum laude.

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Willem-Jan Markerink

The desire to understand
is sometimes far less intelligent than
the inability to understand


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Re: Zuid-Afrika weigert asielzoekers uit Zimbabwe [boodskap #88753 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #88748] Sa, 03 Januarie 2004 19:33 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
Ron McGregor  is tans af-lyn  Ron McGregor
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> "Cees Camphuis" wrote in news:bt5uuh$67m$1
> @news1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl:
>
>> Volgens de Volkskrant weigert Zuid-Afrika asielzoekers uit Zimbabwe toegang
>> tot het land. Is dit goed of slecht?

The question is irrelevant, because the allegation isn't true. Asylum
seekers are granted entry provided they pay the necessary bribes to the
immigration staff.

I don't see why everyone makes such a fuss about this. In South Africa, if
you want to get a government contract, you have to cut the right people in
on the deal. If you want to start a new business, or continue to run and
existing one, you have to cut the right people in on your shareholding, and
create positions for the right people on your staff. If you want to send a
team to the Olympic Games, or some other sporting event, you have to ensure
that the right people are on the team.

All of this is considered to be part of Nelson Mandela's socio-economic
miracle, and reflects the triumph of justice over the evil of injustice. So
why should a couple of bribes to people lower down the hierarchy attract
such attention?
Re: Zuid-Afrika weigert asielzoekers uit Zimbabwe [boodskap #88763 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #88753] So, 04 Januarie 2004 03:59 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
Willem-Jan Markerink  is tans af-lyn  Willem-Jan Markerink
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"Ron McGregor" wrote in
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>
>> "Cees Camphuis" wrote in news:bt5uuh$67m$1
>> @news1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl:

>>> Volgens de Volkskrant weigert Zuid-Afrika asielzoekers uit Zimbabwe
> toegang
>>> tot het land. Is dit goed of slecht?
>
> The question is irrelevant, because the allegation isn't true. Asylum
> seekers are granted entry provided they pay the necessary bribes to the
> immigration staff.
>
> I don't see why everyone makes such a fuss about this. In South Africa,
> if you want to get a government contract, you have to cut the right
> people in on the deal. If you want to start a new business, or continue
> to run and existing one, you have to cut the right people in on your
> shareholding, and create positions for the right people on your staff.
> If you want to send a team to the Olympic Games, or some other sporting
> event, you have to ensure that the right people are on the team.
>
> All of this is considered to be part of Nelson Mandela's socio-economic
> miracle, and reflects the triumph of justice over the evil of injustice.
> So why should a couple of bribes to people lower down the hierarchy
> attract such attention?
>
>

I always prefer looking at it as the Rainbow Nation, with a pot of boiling
lethal acid on both sides.
OTOH, it sure is a nice timewarp performance, from African Renaissance to
African Medieval Times within just a few governments (they ought to change
that too, like in Zimbabwe or Namibia....the fat chief should stay in his
seat until he dies).

Btw, why are those resistance-fighters on Haiti such lousy shooters?
They could have made more than Haiti a better place to live in.
Should have send them for military training to North-Korea, just like
Mugabe once did....that will create the apropriate spirit & skills.

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Willem-Jan Markerink

The desire to understand
is sometimes far less intelligent than
the inability to understand


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Re: Zuid-Afrika weigert asielzoekers uit Zimbabwe / Nederland heet asielzoekers van harte welkom (?). [boodskap #88771 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #88748] So, 04 Januarie 2004 16:29 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
Corné  is tans af-lyn  Corné
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Misschien zijn ze welkom in Nederland?
Ik bedoel: in Den Haag heb je al meer dan 160 verschillende nationaliteiten,
in Rotterdam meer dan 60 in een wijk.... Laat komen, laat komen...!

Corné.
Re: Zuid-Afrika weigert asielzoekers uit Zimbabwe / Nederland heet asielzoekers van harte welkom (?). [boodskap #88778 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #88771] So, 04 Januarie 2004 18:04 Na vorige boodskap
Willem-Jan Markerink  is tans af-lyn  Willem-Jan Markerink
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"Corné" wrote in
news:bt9f16$5aj$1...@news4.tilbu1.nb.home.nl:

>
> Misschien zijn ze welkom in Nederland?
> Ik bedoel: in Den Haag heb je al meer dan 160 verschillende
> nationaliteiten, in Rotterdam meer dan 60 in een wijk.... Laat komen,
> laat komen...!
>
> Corné.
>
>
>

Geen grotere racist dan een zwarte Zuid-Afrikaan.

--
Bye,

Willem-Jan Markerink

The desire to understand
is sometimes far less intelligent than
the inability to understand


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