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| Misunderstanding [boodskap #65718] |
Wo, 28 Augustus 2002 19:12  |
Nansen Passport
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Fellow NG enthusiasts
I made the point of posting this message to related NG's for the simple
reason that I think it is applicable to the NG's related to South Africa,
Zimbabwe, UK and USA. Why? For the simple reasons that the story relates to
South Africa and Zimbabwe because of the cultural / socio economic issues
manifesting in these countries (as well as other African countries) and the
influence the UK and the USA as power players have in this region.
The current issue in Zimbabwe (Mugabe and the eviction of white farmers) and
its effect on South Africa (where voices for the same actions are becoming
louder and louder by the minute) is creating a stir in the world political
and social development community. At least for those people interested in
the topics.
Leaders in Africa get their power to exercise their will on the continent
mainly via referral power from the UK and USA. Example. Apartheid in South
Africa was overthrown and brought down by die ANC getting sympathy from the
constituencies (voters) of political decision makers in the UK and the USA
during the struggle period. They did this by sending various intellectuals
to universities and other forums to tell the people how awful things were
under white rule.
The world (specifically UK and USA) identified with these carefully chosen
few and put pressure on their leaders to bring so called white rule in South
Africa to an end. What you (UK and USA) did not contend with was the fact
that Africa and its leaders are not the democratic, humanitarians you
thought they were. That image was a falsely projected one which you
unwittingly believed. Africa is now in turmoil as the leaders you trusted to
save things are now stabbing you in the back and leading Africa into
oblivion. Many things inspire this tyranny (mineral and monetary wealth the
main reasons) and I fear there is no turning back. Africa is in serious
trouble and you still make the mistake of thinking that Africa and its
leaders think and do the way you do! They don't! It is a culture problem
which is perfectly geared at extorting more and more aid from the rich west
and lining the pockets of the corrupt African leaders who have learned that
there are no bigger suckers than the humanitarian, democratic west. All they
do is send you pictures of hungry starving kids and you buckle and send
billions of dollars in aid to Africa. A small portion of that aid ends up in
the hands of the people who suffer the most and Mugabe, Mbeki, Nujoma and
friends get richer by the second.
Stop thinking of Africa as a continent filled with democratic, humanitarian
westernized people who simply want to go forward. This continent is filled
with people who still believe in tribal law, have no qualms about exploiting
their own people and spinning you all sorts of tragic stories in order to
get more money from you quilt stricken people up north. Wake up! Why is it
that you could develop your countries from nothing without anybody aiding
you and Africa not? I firmly believe it is an underlying cultural
ineptitude. I live in Africa. I promise you, all you hear on ground level is
that the Africans want to cling to their tribal beliefs (which include
wichcraft) and then still expect the wealth you guys have. It is very
difficult to explain, but if you place a reply to this message, I think I
may be able to elaborate a little more.
Regards
Nansen Passport
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| Re: Misunderstanding [boodskap #65721 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #65718] |
Wo, 28 Augustus 2002 20:47  |
Annette
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En toe koep die poender.
Wat probeer die mannetjie nou eintlik tuisbring?
Annette
"Nansen Passport" skryf in boodskap news:3d6d2061.0@news1.mweb.co.za...
> Fellow NG enthusiasts
>
> I made the point of posting this message to related NG's for the simple
> reason that I think it is applicable to the NG's related to South Africa,
> Zimbabwe, UK and USA. Why? For the simple reasons that the story relates to
> South Africa and Zimbabwe because of the cultural / socio economic issues
> manifesting in these countries (as well as other African countries) and the
> influence the UK and the USA as power players have in this region.
>
> The current issue in Zimbabwe (Mugabe and the eviction of white farmers) and
> its effect on South Africa (where voices for the same actions are becoming
> louder and louder by the minute) is creating a stir in the world political
> and social development community. At least for those people interested in
> the topics.
>
> Leaders in Africa get their power to exercise their will on the continent
> mainly via referral power from the UK and USA. Example. Apartheid in South
> Africa was overthrown and brought down by die ANC getting sympathy from the
> constituencies (voters) of political decision makers in the UK and the USA
> during the struggle period. They did this by sending various intellectuals
> to universities and other forums to tell the people how awful things were
> under white rule.
>
> The world (specifically UK and USA) identified with these carefully chosen
> few and put pressure on their leaders to bring so called white rule in South
> Africa to an end. What you (UK and USA) did not contend with was the fact
> that Africa and its leaders are not the democratic, humanitarians you
> thought they were. That image was a falsely projected one which you
> unwittingly believed. Africa is now in turmoil as the leaders you trusted to
> save things are now stabbing you in the back and leading Africa into
> oblivion. Many things inspire this tyranny (mineral and monetary wealth the
> main reasons) and I fear there is no turning back. Africa is in serious
> trouble and you still make the mistake of thinking that Africa and its
> leaders think and do the way you do! They don't! It is a culture problem
> which is perfectly geared at extorting more and more aid from the rich west
> and lining the pockets of the corrupt African leaders who have learned that
> there are no bigger suckers than the humanitarian, democratic west. All they
> do is send you pictures of hungry starving kids and you buckle and send
> billions of dollars in aid to Africa. A small portion of that aid ends up in
> the hands of the people who suffer the most and Mugabe, Mbeki, Nujoma and
> friends get richer by the second.
>
> Stop thinking of Africa as a continent filled with democratic, humanitarian
> westernized people who simply want to go forward. This continent is filled
> with people who still believe in tribal law, have no qualms about exploiting
> their own people and spinning you all sorts of tragic stories in order to
> get more money from you quilt stricken people up north. Wake up! Why is it
> that you could develop your countries from nothing without anybody aiding
> you and Africa not? I firmly believe it is an underlying cultural
> ineptitude. I live in Africa. I promise you, all you hear on ground level is
> that the Africans want to cling to their tribal beliefs (which include
> wichcraft) and then still expect the wealth you guys have. It is very
> difficult to explain, but if you place a reply to this message, I think I
> may be able to elaborate a little more.
>
> Regards
> Nansen Passport
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| Re: Misunderstanding [boodskap #65731 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #65721] |
Do, 29 Augustus 2002 06:11 |
Koot Pieterse
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Kyk na sy e-pos adres en ignoreer hom.
Koot
NS. Behoort die poender nie te HOEP nie?
"Annette" skryf in boodskap news:akjd5m$1iugeu$1@ID-92016.news.dfncis.de...
> En toe koep die poender.
> Wat probeer die mannetjie nou eintlik tuisbring?
> Annette
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> "Nansen Passport" wrote in message
> news:3d6d2061.0@news1.mweb.co.za...
>> Fellow NG enthusiasts
>>
>> I made the point of posting this message to related NG's for the simple
>> reason that I think it is applicable to the NG's related to South Africa,
>> Zimbabwe, UK and USA. Why? For the simple reasons that the story relates
> to
>> South Africa and Zimbabwe because of the cultural / socio economic issues
>> manifesting in these countries (as well as other African countries) and
> the
>> influence the UK and the USA as power players have in this region.
>>
>> The current issue in Zimbabwe (Mugabe and the eviction of white farmers)
> and
>> its effect on South Africa (where voices for the same actions are becoming
>> louder and louder by the minute) is creating a stir in the world political
>> and social development community. At least for those people interested in
>> the topics.
>>
>> Leaders in Africa get their power to exercise their will on the continent
>> mainly via referral power from the UK and USA. Example. Apartheid in South
>> Africa was overthrown and brought down by die ANC getting sympathy from
> the
>> constituencies (voters) of political decision makers in the UK and the USA
>> during the struggle period. They did this by sending various intellectuals
>> to universities and other forums to tell the people how awful things were
>> under white rule.
>>
>> The world (specifically UK and USA) identified with these carefully chosen
>> few and put pressure on their leaders to bring so called white rule in
> South
>> Africa to an end. What you (UK and USA) did not contend with was the fact
>> that Africa and its leaders are not the democratic, humanitarians you
>> thought they were. That image was a falsely projected one which you
>> unwittingly believed. Africa is now in turmoil as the leaders you
trusted
> to
>> save things are now stabbing you in the back and leading Africa into
>> oblivion. Many things inspire this tyranny (mineral and monetary wealth
> the
>> main reasons) and I fear there is no turning back. Africa is in serious
>> trouble and you still make the mistake of thinking that Africa and its
>> leaders think and do the way you do! They don't! It is a culture problem
>> which is perfectly geared at extorting more and more aid from the rich
> west
>> and lining the pockets of the corrupt African leaders who have learned
> that
>> there are no bigger suckers than the humanitarian, democratic west. All
> they
>> do is send you pictures of hungry starving kids and you buckle and send
>> billions of dollars in aid to Africa. A small portion of that aid ends
up
> in
>> the hands of the people who suffer the most and Mugabe, Mbeki, Nujoma and
>> friends get richer by the second.
>>
>> Stop thinking of Africa as a continent filled with democratic,
> humanitarian
>> westernized people who simply want to go forward. This continent is filled
>> with people who still believe in tribal law, have no qualms about
> exploiting
>> their own people and spinning you all sorts of tragic stories in order to
>> get more money from you quilt stricken people up north. Wake up! Why is it
>> that you could develop your countries from nothing without anybody aiding
>> you and Africa not? I firmly believe it is an underlying cultural
>> ineptitude. I live in Africa. I promise you, all you hear on ground
level
> is
>> that the Africans want to cling to their tribal beliefs (which include
>> wichcraft) and then still expect the wealth you guys have. It is very
>> difficult to explain, but if you place a reply to this message, I think I
>> may be able to elaborate a little more.
>>
>> Regards
>> Nansen Passport
>>
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| Re: Misunderstanding [boodskap #65733 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #65731] |
Do, 29 Augustus 2002 06:22 |
Annette
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Moes eintlik, maar ons het altyd van koep gepraat, anders is die afleiding
te maklik:)
Annette
"Koot Pieterse" skryf in boodskap news:akkdtj$g8p$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
> Kyk na sy e-pos adres en ignoreer hom.
> Koot
>
> NS. Behoort die poender nie te HOEP nie?
>
> "Annette" wrote in message
> news:akjd5m$1iugeu$1@ID-92016.news.dfncis.de...
>> En toe koep die poender.
>> Wat probeer die mannetjie nou eintlik tuisbring?
>> Annette
>>
>>
>> "Nansen Passport" wrote in message
>> news:3d6d2061.0@news1.mweb.co.za...
>>> Fellow NG enthusiasts
>>>
>>> I made the point of posting this message to related NG's for the simple
>>> reason that I think it is applicable to the NG's related to South
> Africa,
>>> Zimbabwe, UK and USA. Why? For the simple reasons that the story
relates
>> to
>>> South Africa and Zimbabwe because of the cultural / socio economic
> issues
>>> manifesting in these countries (as well as other African countries)
and
>> the
>>> influence the UK and the USA as power players have in this region.
>>>
>>> The current issue in Zimbabwe (Mugabe and the eviction of white
farmers)
>> and
>>> its effect on South Africa (where voices for the same actions are
> becoming
>>> louder and louder by the minute) is creating a stir in the world
> political
>>> and social development community. At least for those people interested
> in
>>> the topics.
>>>
>>> Leaders in Africa get their power to exercise their will on the
> continent
>>> mainly via referral power from the UK and USA. Example. Apartheid in
> South
>>> Africa was overthrown and brought down by die ANC getting sympathy
from
>> the
>>> constituencies (voters) of political decision makers in the UK and the
> USA
>>> during the struggle period. They did this by sending various
> intellectuals
>>> to universities and other forums to tell the people how awful things
> were
>>> under white rule.
>>>
>>> The world (specifically UK and USA) identified with these carefully
> chosen
>>> few and put pressure on their leaders to bring so called white rule in
>> South
>>> Africa to an end. What you (UK and USA) did not contend with was the
> fact
>>> that Africa and its leaders are not the democratic, humanitarians you
>>> thought they were. That image was a falsely projected one which you
>>> unwittingly believed. Africa is now in turmoil as the leaders you
> trusted
>> to
>>> save things are now stabbing you in the back and leading Africa into
>>> oblivion. Many things inspire this tyranny (mineral and monetary
wealth
>> the
>>> main reasons) and I fear there is no turning back. Africa is in serious
>>> trouble and you still make the mistake of thinking that Africa and its
>>> leaders think and do the way you do! They don't! It is a culture problem
>>> which is perfectly geared at extorting more and more aid from the rich
>> west
>>> and lining the pockets of the corrupt African leaders who have learned
>> that
>>> there are no bigger suckers than the humanitarian, democratic west.
All
>> they
>>> do is send you pictures of hungry starving kids and you buckle and send
>>> billions of dollars in aid to Africa. A small portion of that aid ends
> up
>> in
>>> the hands of the people who suffer the most and Mugabe, Mbeki, Nujoma
> and
>>> friends get richer by the second.
>>>
>>> Stop thinking of Africa as a continent filled with democratic,
>> humanitarian
>>> westernized people who simply want to go forward. This continent is
> filled
>>> with people who still believe in tribal law, have no qualms about
>> exploiting
>>> their own people and spinning you all sorts of tragic stories in order
> to
>>> get more money from you quilt stricken people up north. Wake up! Why
is
> it
>>> that you could develop your countries from nothing without anybody
> aiding
>>> you and Africa not? I firmly believe it is an underlying cultural
>>> ineptitude. I live in Africa. I promise you, all you hear on ground
> level
>> is
>>> that the Africans want to cling to their tribal beliefs (which include
>>> wichcraft) and then still expect the wealth you guys have. It is very
>>> difficult to explain, but if you place a reply to this message, I
think
> I
>>> may be able to elaborate a little more.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Nansen Passport
>>>
>>
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| Re: Misunderstanding [boodskap #65746 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #65721] |
Do, 29 Augustus 2002 09:58 |
Nansen Passport
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Kom ek probeer verduidelik.
Die ingelykheid in Suid Afrika word baie deur westerse navorsers toegeskryf
aan Apartheid of diskriminerende gedrag van wit mense teenoor anders
rassiges. Die waarheid is bietjie meer kompleks as dit. Die waarheid is dat
die wit gemeenskappe in Suid Afrika en Zimbabwe het westerse kulture en die
boorlinge van Afrika het nie. Die westerse kultuur het homself al lankal
bewys as om hom te leen tot spoedige ontwikkeling (soms tot die skade van
die natuur, maar nietemin ontwikkeling) en vooruitgang.
Vir Europese waarnemers lyk die verskil in lewenskawliteit op die oog af
toeskryfbaar te wees aan diskriminasie, maar die waarheid is egter dieper
gelee in die feit dat die blankes 'n ander kultuur nastreef.
Dus is die ongelykheid verkeerdelik toegeskryf aan diskriminasie (nie dat
dit nie bestaan het nie, maar ek is bereid om te argumenteer dat die effek
daarvan minder was as wat voorgehou word) en die resulterende oplossings wat
voorgestel word gaan dus nie die probleem oplos nie. Die gemiddelde Afrikaan
is nie 'n westerling met 'n swart vel nie. Dis die idee wat westerling (met
ander woorde Europa en Amerika) het van Afrikane, omdat Mandela, Mbeki en
almal waarmee hulle te doen kry daardie beeld uitstraal. Wat ek nou sê klink
verstaanbaar rasisties (al is dit nie) maar dit maak dit nie minder waar
nie. Ek glo nie in die term rassisme nie. Wat ons as rassisme bestempel is
inderwaarheid kulturalisme. Rassisme bestaan nie. Jy kan slegs iemand
opgrond van sy velkleur haat omdat jy iets slegs met hom vereenselwig. In
alle gevalle is dit 'n kultuur kwessie. Die grondliggende sondaar is kultuur
verskille. Ek kan dit nie genoeg uitwys nie.
Opreg
Nansen Passport
NS. Daar is 'n goeie rede waarom ek anoniem is. Ek vra omverskoning vir die
feit dat dit so moet wees, maar dit is nodig. Ek is nie 'n ekstremis nie. Ek
is ook nie teen swart of wit mense nie. Ek glo ek is 'n logiese mens wat 'n
begrip vir die wêreld waarin ek leef wil kweek. Dus vra ek u om asseblief
begrip te hê as ek sê ek kan nie my identiteit blootlê nie. Ek is 'n persoon
wat werk in die media en die nuusgroepe is vir my 'n laboratorium waarin die
wêreld homself ooplê vir analiese. Ek wens ek kon sonder 'n skuilnaam hier
gesels.
"Annette" skryf in boodskap news:akjd5m$1iugeu$1@ID-92016.news.dfncis.de...
> En toe koep die poender.
> Wat probeer die mannetjie nou eintlik tuisbring?
> Annette
>
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> "Nansen Passport" wrote in message
> news:3d6d2061.0@news1.mweb.co.za...
>> Fellow NG enthusiasts
>>
>> I made the point of posting this message to related NG's for the simple
>> reason that I think it is applicable to the NG's related to South Africa,
>> Zimbabwe, UK and USA. Why? For the simple reasons that the story relates
> to
>> South Africa and Zimbabwe because of the cultural / socio economic issues
>> manifesting in these countries (as well as other African countries) and
> the
>> influence the UK and the USA as power players have in this region.
>>
>> The current issue in Zimbabwe (Mugabe and the eviction of white farmers)
> and
>> its effect on South Africa (where voices for the same actions are becoming
>> louder and louder by the minute) is creating a stir in the world political
>> and social development community. At least for those people interested in
>> the topics.
>>
>> Leaders in Africa get their power to exercise their will on the continent
>> mainly via referral power from the UK and USA. Example. Apartheid in South
>> Africa was overthrown and brought down by die ANC getting sympathy from
> the
>> constituencies (voters) of political decision makers in the UK and the USA
>> during the struggle period. They did this by sending various intellectuals
>> to universities and other forums to tell the people how awful things were
>> under white rule.
>>
>> The world (specifically UK and USA) identified with these carefully chosen
>> few and put pressure on their leaders to bring so called white rule in
> South
>> Africa to an end. What you (UK and USA) did not contend with was the fact
>> that Africa and its leaders are not the democratic, humanitarians you
>> thought they were. That image was a falsely projected one which you
>> unwittingly believed. Africa is now in turmoil as the leaders you
trusted
> to
>> save things are now stabbing you in the back and leading Africa into
>> oblivion. Many things inspire this tyranny (mineral and monetary wealth
> the
>> main reasons) and I fear there is no turning back. Africa is in serious
>> trouble and you still make the mistake of thinking that Africa and its
>> leaders think and do the way you do! They don't! It is a culture problem
>> which is perfectly geared at extorting more and more aid from the rich
> west
>> and lining the pockets of the corrupt African leaders who have learned
> that
>> there are no bigger suckers than the humanitarian, democratic west. All
> they
>> do is send you pictures of hungry starving kids and you buckle and send
>> billions of dollars in aid to Africa. A small portion of that aid ends
up
> in
>> the hands of the people who suffer the most and Mugabe, Mbeki, Nujoma and
>> friends get richer by the second.
>>
>> Stop thinking of Africa as a continent filled with democratic,
> humanitarian
>> westernized people who simply want to go forward. This continent is filled
>> with people who still believe in tribal law, have no qualms about
> exploiting
>> their own people and spinning you all sorts of tragic stories in order to
>> get more money from you quilt stricken people up north. Wake up! Why is it
>> that you could develop your countries from nothing without anybody aiding
>> you and Africa not? I firmly believe it is an underlying cultural
>> ineptitude. I live in Africa. I promise you, all you hear on ground
level
> is
>> that the Africans want to cling to their tribal beliefs (which include
>> wichcraft) and then still expect the wealth you guys have. It is very
>> difficult to explain, but if you place a reply to this message, I think I
>> may be able to elaborate a little more.
>>
>> Regards
>> Nansen Passport
>>
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| Re: Misunderstanding [boodskap #65874 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #65718] |
So, 01 September 2002 21:51 |
Francois Human
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your point?
"Nansen Passport" skryf in boodskap news:3d6d2061.0@news1.mweb.co.za...
> Fellow NG enthusiasts
>
> I made the point of posting this message to related NG's for the simple
> reason that I think it is applicable to the NG's related to South Africa,
> Zimbabwe, UK and USA. Why? For the simple reasons that the story relates to
> South Africa and Zimbabwe because of the cultural / socio economic issues
> manifesting in these countries (as well as other African countries) and the
> influence the UK and the USA as power players have in this region.
>
> The current issue in Zimbabwe (Mugabe and the eviction of white farmers) and
> its effect on South Africa (where voices for the same actions are becoming
> louder and louder by the minute) is creating a stir in the world political
> and social development community. At least for those people interested in
> the topics.
>
> Leaders in Africa get their power to exercise their will on the continent
> mainly via referral power from the UK and USA. Example. Apartheid in South
> Africa was overthrown and brought down by die ANC getting sympathy from the
> constituencies (voters) of political decision makers in the UK and the USA
> during the struggle period. They did this by sending various intellectuals
> to universities and other forums to tell the people how awful things were
> under white rule.
>
> The world (specifically UK and USA) identified with these carefully chosen
> few and put pressure on their leaders to bring so called white rule in South
> Africa to an end. What you (UK and USA) did not contend with was the fact
> that Africa and its leaders are not the democratic, humanitarians you
> thought they were. That image was a falsely projected one which you
> unwittingly believed. Africa is now in turmoil as the leaders you trusted to
> save things are now stabbing you in the back and leading Africa into
> oblivion. Many things inspire this tyranny (mineral and monetary wealth the
> main reasons) and I fear there is no turning back. Africa is in serious
> trouble and you still make the mistake of thinking that Africa and its
> leaders think and do the way you do! They don't! It is a culture problem
> which is perfectly geared at extorting more and more aid from the rich west
> and lining the pockets of the corrupt African leaders who have learned that
> there are no bigger suckers than the humanitarian, democratic west. All they
> do is send you pictures of hungry starving kids and you buckle and send
> billions of dollars in aid to Africa. A small portion of that aid ends up in
> the hands of the people who suffer the most and Mugabe, Mbeki, Nujoma and
> friends get richer by the second.
>
> Stop thinking of Africa as a continent filled with democratic, humanitarian
> westernized people who simply want to go forward. This continent is filled
> with people who still believe in tribal law, have no qualms about exploiting
> their own people and spinning you all sorts of tragic stories in order to
> get more money from you quilt stricken people up north. Wake up! Why is it
> that you could develop your countries from nothing without anybody aiding
> you and Africa not? I firmly believe it is an underlying cultural
> ineptitude. I live in Africa. I promise you, all you hear on ground level is
> that the Africans want to cling to their tribal beliefs (which include
> wichcraft) and then still expect the wealth you guys have. It is very
> difficult to explain, but if you place a reply to this message, I think I
> may be able to elaborate a little more.
>
> Regards
> Nansen Passport
>
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| Re: Misunderstanding [boodskap #66053 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #65733] |
Vr, 06 September 2002 11:04 |
Koot Pieterse
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Julle Kapenaars het meer class as wat goed is vir julle.
"Annette" skryf in boodskap news:akkeja$1jh2u6$1@ID-92016.news.dfncis.de...
> Moes eintlik, maar ons het altyd van koep gepraat, anders is die afleiding
> te maklik:)
> Annette
>
>
>
> "Koot Pieterse" wrote in message
> news:akkdtj$g8p$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
>> Kyk na sy e-pos adres en ignoreer hom.
>> Koot
>>
>> NS. Behoort die poender nie te HOEP nie?
>>
>> "Annette" wrote in message
>> news:akjd5m$1iugeu$1@ID-92016.news.dfncis.de...
>>> En toe koep die poender.
>>> Wat probeer die mannetjie nou eintlik tuisbring?
>>> Annette
>>>
>>>
>>> "Nansen Passport" wrote in message
>>> news:3d6d2061.0@news1.mweb.co.za...
>>>> Fellow NG enthusiasts
>>>>
>>>> I made the point of posting this message to related NG's for the
> simple
>>>> reason that I think it is applicable to the NG's related to South
>> Africa,
>>>> Zimbabwe, UK and USA. Why? For the simple reasons that the story
> relates
>>> to
>>>> South Africa and Zimbabwe because of the cultural / socio economic
>> issues
>>>> manifesting in these countries (as well as other African countries)
> and
>>> the
>>>> influence the UK and the USA as power players have in this region.
>>>>
>>>> The current issue in Zimbabwe (Mugabe and the eviction of white
> farmers)
>>> and
>>>> its effect on South Africa (where voices for the same actions are
>> becoming
>>>> louder and louder by the minute) is creating a stir in the world
>> political
>>>> and social development community. At least for those people
interested
>> in
>>>> the topics.
>>>>
>>>> Leaders in Africa get their power to exercise their will on the
>> continent
>>>> mainly via referral power from the UK and USA. Example. Apartheid in
>> South
>>>> Africa was overthrown and brought down by die ANC getting sympathy
> from
>>> the
>>>> constituencies (voters) of political decision makers in the UK and
the
>> USA
>>>> during the struggle period. They did this by sending various
>> intellectuals
>>>> to universities and other forums to tell the people how awful things
>> were
>>>> under white rule.
>>>>
>>>> The world (specifically UK and USA) identified with these carefully
>> chosen
>>>> few and put pressure on their leaders to bring so called white rule
in
>>> South
>>>> Africa to an end. What you (UK and USA) did not contend with was the
>> fact
>>>> that Africa and its leaders are not the democratic, humanitarians you
>>>> thought they were. That image was a falsely projected one which you
>>>> unwittingly believed. Africa is now in turmoil as the leaders you
>> trusted
>>> to
>>>> save things are now stabbing you in the back and leading Africa into
>>>> oblivion. Many things inspire this tyranny (mineral and monetary
> wealth
>>> the
>>>> main reasons) and I fear there is no turning back. Africa is in
> serious
>>>> trouble and you still make the mistake of thinking that Africa and its
>>>> leaders think and do the way you do! They don't! It is a culture
> problem
>>>> which is perfectly geared at extorting more and more aid from the
rich
>>> west
>>>> and lining the pockets of the corrupt African leaders who have
learned
>>> that
>>>> there are no bigger suckers than the humanitarian, democratic west.
> All
>>> they
>>>> do is send you pictures of hungry starving kids and you buckle and
> send
>>>> billions of dollars in aid to Africa. A small portion of that aid
ends
>> up
>>> in
>>>> the hands of the people who suffer the most and Mugabe, Mbeki,
Nujoma
>> and
>>>> friends get richer by the second.
>>>>
>>>> Stop thinking of Africa as a continent filled with democratic,
>>> humanitarian
>>>> westernized people who simply want to go forward. This continent is
>> filled
>>>> with people who still believe in tribal law, have no qualms about
>>> exploiting
>>>> their own people and spinning you all sorts of tragic stories in
order
>> to
>>>> get more money from you quilt stricken people up north. Wake up! Why
> is
>> it
>>>> that you could develop your countries from nothing without anybody
>> aiding
>>>> you and Africa not? I firmly believe it is an underlying cultural
>>>> ineptitude. I live in Africa. I promise you, all you hear on ground
>> level
>>> is
>>>> that the Africans want to cling to their tribal beliefs (which include
>>>> wichcraft) and then still expect the wealth you guys have. It is very
>>>> difficult to explain, but if you place a reply to this message, I
> think
>> I
>>>> may be able to elaborate a little more.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Nansen Passport
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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Annette
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Haai Koot!! Dankie vir die wonderlike kompliment:)))
Annette
"Koot Pieterse" skryf in boodskap news:ala23i$f6d$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
> Julle Kapenaars het meer class as wat goed is vir julle.
>
> "Annette" wrote in message
> news:akkeja$1jh2u6$1@ID-92016.news.dfncis.de...
>> Moes eintlik, maar ons het altyd van koep gepraat, anders is die afleiding
>> te maklik:)
>> Annette
>>
>>
>>
>> "Koot Pieterse" wrote in message
>> news:akkdtj$g8p$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
>>> Kyk na sy e-pos adres en ignoreer hom.
>>> Koot
>>>
>>> NS. Behoort die poender nie te HOEP nie?
>>>
>>> "Annette" wrote in message
>>> news:akjd5m$1iugeu$1@ID-92016.news.dfncis.de...
>>>> En toe koep die poender.
>>>> Wat probeer die mannetjie nou eintlik tuisbring?
>>>> Annette
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Nansen Passport" wrote in message
>>>> news:3d6d2061.0@news1.mweb.co.za...
>>>> > Fellow NG enthusiasts
>>>> >
>>>> > I made the point of posting this message to related NG's for the
>> simple
>>>> > reason that I think it is applicable to the NG's related to South
>>> Africa,
>>>> > Zimbabwe, UK and USA. Why? For the simple reasons that the story
>> relates
>>>> to
>>>> > South Africa and Zimbabwe because of the cultural / socio economic
>>> issues
>>>> > manifesting in these countries (as well as other African
countries)
>> and
>>>> the
>>>> > influence the UK and the USA as power players have in this region.
>>>> >
>>>> > The current issue in Zimbabwe (Mugabe and the eviction of white
>> farmers)
>>>> and
>>>> > its effect on South Africa (where voices for the same actions are
>>> becoming
>>>> > louder and louder by the minute) is creating a stir in the world
>>> political
>>>> > and social development community. At least for those people
> interested
>>> in
>>>> > the topics.
>>>> >
>>>> > Leaders in Africa get their power to exercise their will on the
>>> continent
>>>> > mainly via referral power from the UK and USA. Example. Apartheid
in
>>> South
>>>> > Africa was overthrown and brought down by die ANC getting sympathy
>> from
>>>> the
>>>> > constituencies (voters) of political decision makers in the UK and
> the
>>> USA
>>>> > during the struggle period. They did this by sending various
>>> intellectuals
>>>> > to universities and other forums to tell the people how awful
things
>>> were
>>>> > under white rule.
>>>> >
>>>> > The world (specifically UK and USA) identified with these
carefully
>>> chosen
>>>> > few and put pressure on their leaders to bring so called white
rule
> in
>>>> South
>>>> > Africa to an end. What you (UK and USA) did not contend with was
the
>>> fact
>>>> > that Africa and its leaders are not the democratic, humanitarians
> you
>>>> > thought they were. That image was a falsely projected one which you
>>>> > unwittingly believed. Africa is now in turmoil as the leaders you
>>> trusted
>>>> to
>>>> > save things are now stabbing you in the back and leading Africa into
>>>> > oblivion. Many things inspire this tyranny (mineral and monetary
>> wealth
>>>> the
>>>> > main reasons) and I fear there is no turning back. Africa is in
>> serious
>>>> > trouble and you still make the mistake of thinking that Africa and
> its
>>>> > leaders think and do the way you do! They don't! It is a culture
>> problem
>>>> > which is perfectly geared at extorting more and more aid from the
> rich
>>>> west
>>>> > and lining the pockets of the corrupt African leaders who have
> learned
>>>> that
>>>> > there are no bigger suckers than the humanitarian, democratic
west.
>> All
>>>> they
>>>> > do is send you pictures of hungry starving kids and you buckle and
>> send
>>>> > billions of dollars in aid to Africa. A small portion of that aid
> ends
>>> up
>>>> in
>>>> > the hands of the people who suffer the most and Mugabe, Mbeki,
> Nujoma
>>> and
>>>> > friends get richer by the second.
>>>> >
>>>> > Stop thinking of Africa as a continent filled with democratic,
>>>> humanitarian
>>>> > westernized people who simply want to go forward. This continent
is
>>> filled
>>>> > with people who still believe in tribal law, have no qualms about
>>>> exploiting
>>>> > their own people and spinning you all sorts of tragic stories in
> order
>>> to
>>>> > get more money from you quilt stricken people up north. Wake up!
Why
>> is
>>> it
>>>> > that you could develop your countries from nothing without anybody
>>> aiding
>>>> > you and Africa not? I firmly believe it is an underlying cultural
>>>> > ineptitude. I live in Africa. I promise you, all you hear on
ground
>>> level
>>>> is
>>>> > that the Africans want to cling to their tribal beliefs (which
> include
>>>> > wichcraft) and then still expect the wealth you guys have. It is
> very
>>>> > difficult to explain, but if you place a reply to this message, I
>> think
>>> I
>>>> > may be able to elaborate a little more.
>>>> >
>>>> > Regards
>>>> > Nansen Passport
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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