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HERITAGE DAY 2001

BACKGROUND

* After South Africa's first democratic elections in 1994, a Government of
National Unity (GNU) was formed.
* Government agreed that prior to the 1994 elections, there were important
historical days that the apartheid government did not recognise.
* These days were "unofficially" commemorated but not part of calendar of
public holidays.

* Cabinet decided that there should be a day (24 September) on which South
Africans commemorate their heritage.
* The Department of Arts, Culture, Science and Technology (DACST), as the
custodian of South Africa's culture, was given the responsibility to plan
and manage events for Heritage Day at national level annually.
* The first Heritage Day commemoration took place on 24 September 1995.

* Although South Africans have diverse cultures, elements of national unity,
nation building, reconciliation and national patriotism should be
emphasised.
* The ideal is to preserve, exhibit and promote our diverse but connected
cultures.
* Heritage Day should encourage the youth, in particular, to embrace South
Africa's common heritage.

* MINMEC decided that the theme for Heritage Day 2001 should be Celebrating
National Symbols.
* MINMEC declared the week of 17-24 September 2001 as National Symbols Week.
* The rationale behind this theme is that most South Africans do not
understand the role of national symbols in nation building.
* The symbols to be emphasised are: Anthem, Flag and Coat of arms
* Government also realises that since South Africa became a democratic
country, there have not been enough efforts to educate the public about the
importance of national symbols.

* Our national symbols do not receive the dignified respect they deserve.
* It is often due to lack of information than disrespect that the majority
of South Africans do not observe the national symbols.
* Consequently, places such as museums and monuments, even those established
recently under the democratic government, still do not enjoy patronage by
all sections of the society.
* Museums and monuments are still generally alien to the ordinary South
Africans.
* Government is also aware that national symbols can play an important role
towards reconciliation and patriotism if programmes to popularise the nation
are introduced.
* The performance/singing of the national anthem by ordinary members of the
public is still characterised by racial patterns.
* This divisive situation does not augur well for our democracy and needs to
be changed.
* It is also necessary that government popularise the new coat of arms and
make it the trademark of South Africa.
* Government acknowledges that it needs to do more to popularise the
national symbols and therefore it would be inaccurate to conclude that all
of these negative patterns are manifestations of non-patriotism and
defiance.

OBJECTIVES OF HERITAGE DAY 2001

* Promote the Heritage theme of Celebrating National Symbols
* Encourage the public to fight for unity, reconciliation, tolerance and
common heritage between cultural groups.
* Create awareness to the public that national symbols could play a unifying
role and instil a sense of patriotism among South Africans
* Mobilise the entire country across cultural and racial lines celebrate
Heritage Day as one nation
* Create awareness and educate the public about the national symbols and
their importance
* Position national symbols as metaphors of national pride and elements of
democracy
* Emphasise the importance of active participation by ordinary South
Africans to make democracy and social integration work for all.

THEME

* Celebrating national symbols

CELEBRATING OUR NATIONAL SYMBOLS

What are our National Symbols?

Our national symbols are those official visual and verbal marks that
identify us as a nation. National symbols are defined in terms of the
Constitution and are meant to promote reconciliation and nation building. In
the constitution it is stated that the Republic of South Africa is a
sovereign democratic state founded on the following values:
* Human dignity, the achievement of equality and advancement of human rights
and freedoms
* Non-racialism and non-sexism
* The supremacy of the constitution and the rule of law
* Universal adult suffrage, national common voters roll, regular election,
and a multiparty system of democratic government to ensure accountability,
responsiveness and openness.

These values are expressed in South Africa's:
* National Flag which we see as flying in the wind
* National Anthem which we hear being played on official occasions and which
is sung by us at schools and at sports events
* National Coat-of-Arms which we see on government buildings, documents,
vehicles, etc.

The National Flag

The new national Flag of the Republic of South Africa was taken into use on
27 April 1994. It was hoisted just after midnight as the new nation was
born. The design and colours of the flag are an outline of the principal
colours of South Africa's flag history, from the earliest times to the
present.

There are a few important rules to adhere to when using the national Flag:
* The flag should be treated with respect. It should not be allowed to drag
on the ground or have something paced on top of it.
* A flag is read like a book - from top to bottom and from left to right.
Therefore it should be displayed in the correct manner:
* When displayed horizontally, the hoist should be to the left of the
spectator and the red band uppermost. When the flag is flown upside down,
it is a sign that the country is in distress
* When displayed vertically against a wall, the red band should be on the
left of the spectator with the hoist uppermost
* When displayed next to or behind the speaker, it should be placed on the
speaker's right hand.
* When the National Flag is displayed with other flags, it should be:
* Hoisted first and lowered last
* On the spectators' left if displayed on crossed staffs and its staff must
be in front of the staff of the other flag
* On the marching right in a procession with another flag/s
* and on the right of a building when flown with national flags or other
countries (all same size and flown at equal height).

The National Anthem

Nkosi sikelel' iAfrika
Maluphakanyisw' uphondo lwayo,
Yizwa imithandazo yethu,
Nkosi sikelela, thina lusapho lwayo.Morena boloka setjhaba sa heso,
O fedise dintwa la matshwenyeho,
O se boloke, O se boloke setjhaba sa heso,
Setjhaba sa South Afrika - South Afrika.
Uit die blou van onse hemel,
Uit die diepte van ons see,
Oor ons ewige gebergtes,
Waar die kranse antwoord gee,
Sounds the call to come together,
And united we shall stand,
Let us live and strive for freedom,
In South Africa our land.

This is the official version of the national Anthem, combining Nkosi
Sikelel' iAfrika, Die Stem and The Call of South Africa. As with all our
National Symbols, the National Anthem should be treated with dignity and
respect when played or sung.

The national Coat of Arms

The role of a Coat of Arms

The national Coat of Arms, or State symbol, is the highest visual symbol of
the State. Take a minute to consider the important events in your life -
birth, marriage, death and school certificates, your passport - they are all
made official by the Coat of Arms. Your smallest coin has it on one of its
sides. When away from the country seeing this symbol on the embassy building
signals a home away from home. The Coat of Arms is also a central part of
the Great Seal, traditionally considered to be the highest symbol of the
State. Absolute power is given to every document with a mark of the Great
Seal on it, as this means that it has the support of the President of South
Africa.

A new Coat of Arms replaced one that has served South Africa since 17
September 1910. The change reflects Government's aim to highlight the
democratic change in South Africa and a new sense of nationalism.

Conclusion

Symbols have been used as an easy way of democratically empowering
especially those South Africans who have for so long been excluded from most
of the decision-making processes in this country. The symbols of political
parties were used in the 1994 election for easy identification on ballot
papers.

The three primary national symbols dealt with in this booklet represent this
new democracy and replace all previous equivalent symbols. Key values
underpinning these new symbols are reconciliation, unity in diversity and
nation building. Through these symbols every South African is encouraged,
mobilised, energised and inspired to own the process of taking this nation
from a divided past to a unified future.

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Re: HERITAGE DAY 2001 [boodskap #50302 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #50300] Di, 18 September 2001 12:42 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
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> HERITAGE DAY 2001
>
>
> BACKGROUND
>
> * After South Africa's first democratic elections in 1994, a Government of
> National Unity (GNU) was formed.
> * Government agreed that prior to the 1994 elections, there were important
> historical days that the apartheid government did not recognise.
> * These days were "unofficially" commemorated but not part of calendar of
> public holidays.
>
> * Cabinet decided that there should be a day (24 September) on which South
> Africans commemorate their heritage.
> * The Department of Arts, Culture, Science and Technology (DACST), as the
> custodian of South Africa's culture, was given the responsibility to plan
> and manage events for Heritage Day at national level annually.
> * The first Heritage Day commemoration took place on 24 September 1995.
>
> * Although South Africans have diverse cultures, elements of national unity,
> nation building, reconciliation and national patriotism should be
> emphasised.
> * The ideal is to preserve, exhibit and promote our diverse but connected
> cultures.
> * Heritage Day should encourage the youth, in particular, to embrace South
> Africa's common heritage.
>
> * MINMEC decided that the theme for Heritage Day 2001 should be Celebrating
> National Symbols.
> * MINMEC declared the week of 17-24 September 2001 as National Symbols Week.
> * The rationale behind this theme is that most South Africans do not
> understand the role of national symbols in nation building.
> * The symbols to be emphasised are: Anthem, Flag and Coat of arms
> * Government also realises that since South Africa became a democratic
> country, there have not been enough efforts to educate the public about the
> importance of national symbols.
>
> * Our national symbols do not receive the dignified respect they deserve.
> * It is often due to lack of information than disrespect that the majority
> of South Africans do not observe the national symbols.
> * Consequently, places such as museums and monuments, even those established
> recently under the democratic government, still do not enjoy patronage by
> all sections of the society.
> * Museums and monuments are still generally alien to the ordinary South
> Africans.
> * Government is also aware that national symbols can play an important role
> towards reconciliation and patriotism if programmes to popularise the nation
> are introduced.
> * The performance/singing of the national anthem by ordinary members of the
> public is still characterised by racial patterns.
> * This divisive situation does not augur well for our democracy and needs to
> be changed.
> * It is also necessary that government popularise the new coat of arms and
> make it the trademark of South Africa.
> * Government acknowledges that it needs to do more to popularise the
> national symbols and therefore it would be inaccurate to conclude that all
> of these negative patterns are manifestations of non-patriotism and
> defiance.
>
>
> OBJECTIVES OF HERITAGE DAY 2001
>
> * Promote the Heritage theme of Celebrating National Symbols
> * Encourage the public to fight for unity, reconciliation, tolerance and
> common heritage between cultural groups.
> * Create awareness to the public that national symbols could play a unifying
> role and instil a sense of patriotism among South Africans
> * Mobilise the entire country across cultural and racial lines celebrate
> Heritage Day as one nation
> * Create awareness and educate the public about the national symbols and
> their importance
> * Position national symbols as metaphors of national pride and elements of
> democracy
> * Emphasise the importance of active participation by ordinary South
> Africans to make democracy and social integration work for all.
>
>
> THEME
>
> * Celebrating national symbols
>
>
> CELEBRATING OUR NATIONAL SYMBOLS
>
> What are our National Symbols?
>
> Our national symbols are those official visual and verbal marks that
> identify us as a nation. National symbols are defined in terms of the
> Constitution and are meant to promote reconciliation and nation building. In
> the constitution it is stated that the Republic of South Africa is a
> sovereign democratic state founded on the following values:
> * Human dignity, the achievement of equality and advancement of human rights
> and freedoms
> * Non-racialism and non-sexism
> * The supremacy of the constitution and the rule of law
> * Universal adult suffrage, national common voters roll, regular election,
> and a multiparty system of democratic government to ensure accountability,
> responsiveness and openness.
>
> These values are expressed in South Africa's:
> * National Flag which we see as flying in the wind
> * National Anthem which we hear being played on official occasions and which
> is sung by us at schools and at sports events
> * National Coat-of-Arms which we see on government buildings, documents,
> vehicles, etc.
>
>
> The National Flag
>
> The new national Flag of the Republic of South Africa was taken into use on
> 27 April 1994. It was hoisted just after midnight as the new nation was
> born. The design and colours of the flag are an outline of the principal
> colours of South Africa's flag history, from the earliest times to the
> present.
>
> There are a few important rules to adhere to when using the national Flag:
> * The flag should be treated with respect. It should not be allowed to drag
> on the ground or have something paced on top of it.
> * A flag is read like a book - from top to bottom and from left to right.
> Therefore it should be displayed in the correct manner:
> * When displayed horizontally, the hoist should be to the left of the
> spectator and the red band uppermost. When the flag is flown upside down,
> it is a sign that the country is in distress
> * When displayed vertically against a wall, the red band should be on the
> left of the spectator with the hoist uppermost
> * When displayed next to or behind the speaker, it should be placed on the
> speaker's right hand.
> * When the National Flag is displayed with other flags, it should be:
> * Hoisted first and lowered last
> * On the spectators' left if displayed on crossed staffs and its staff must
> be in front of the staff of the other flag
> * On the marching right in a procession with another flag/s
> * and on the right of a building when flown with national flags or other
> countries (all same size and flown at equal height).
>
>
> The National Anthem
>
> Nkosi sikelel' iAfrika
> Maluphakanyisw' uphondo lwayo,
> Yizwa imithandazo yethu,
> Nkosi sikelela, thina lusapho lwayo.Morena boloka setjhaba sa heso,
> O fedise dintwa la matshwenyeho,
> O se boloke, O se boloke setjhaba sa heso,
> Setjhaba sa South Afrika - South Afrika.
> Uit die blou van onse hemel,
> Uit die diepte van ons see,
> Oor ons ewige gebergtes,
> Waar die kranse antwoord gee,
> Sounds the call to come together,
> And united we shall stand,
> Let us live and strive for freedom,
> In South Africa our land.
>
> This is the official version of the national Anthem, combining Nkosi
> Sikelel' iAfrika, Die Stem and The Call of South Africa. As with all our
> National Symbols, the National Anthem should be treated with dignity and
> respect when played or sung.
>
>
> The national Coat of Arms
>
> The role of a Coat of Arms
>
> The national Coat of Arms, or State symbol, is the highest visual symbol of
> the State. Take a minute to consider the important events in your life -
> birth, marriage, death and school certificates, your passport - they are all
> made official by the Coat of Arms. Your smallest coin has it on one of its
> sides. When away from the country seeing this symbol on the embassy building
> signals a home away from home. The Coat of Arms is also a central part of
> the Great Seal, traditionally considered to be the highest symbol of the
> State. Absolute power is given to every document with a mark of the Great
> Seal on it, as this means that it has the support of the President of South
> Africa.
>
> A new Coat of Arms replaced one that has served South Africa since 17
> September 1910. The change reflects Government's aim to highlight the
> democratic change in South Africa and a new sense of nationalism.
>
>
> Conclusion
>
> Symbols have been used as an easy way of democratically empowering
> especially those South Africans who have for so long been excluded from most
> of the decision-making processes in this country. The symbols of political
> parties were used in the 1994 election for easy identification on ballot
> papers.
>
> The three primary national symbols dealt with in this booklet represent this
> new democracy and replace all previous equivalent symbols. Key values
> underpinning these new symbols are reconciliation, unity in diversity and
> nation building. Through these symbols every South African is encouraged,
> mobilised, energised and inspired to own the process of taking this nation
> from a divided past to a unified future.
>
>
> http://www.dacst.gov.za
>
>
> --
>
> "Arts world in one website"
> http://www.artslink.co.za
>
> Arts and Culture Trust of the President Award
> Electronic Media of the Year in support of the arts
> Winner 1998, Finalist 1999 and 2000/1
>
> IAWMD Golden Web Awards Winner May 2001
>
> Support South African Arts and Culture:
> Dial-Up with Artslink.co.za and save!
> http://www.at.artslink.co.za/isp
>
> Debate issues affecting the arts and culture industry
> http://www.at.artslink.co.za/egroups.htm
>
Re: HERITAGE DAY 2001 [boodskap #50305 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #50302] Di, 18 September 2001 14:14 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
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Annette wrote:

> Ons gebruik daardie dag om die koor se golfdag te hou.
> Ek dink nie die spelers sing die volkslied by die afslaan op die eerste
> putjie nie - dankie vir die voorstel:)))
> Annette
>
>> HERITAGE DAY 2001
>>
>>
>> BACKGROUND
>>
>> * After South Africa's first democratic elections in 1994, a Government of
>> National Unity (GNU) was formed.
>> * Government agreed that prior to the 1994 elections, there were important
>> historical days that the apartheid government did not recognise.
>> * These days were "unofficially" commemorated but not part of calendar of
>> public holidays.
>>
>> * Cabinet decided that there should be a day (24 September) on which South
>> Africans commemorate their heritage.
>> * The Department of Arts, Culture, Science and Technology (DACST), as the
>> custodian of South Africa's culture, was given the responsibility to plan
>> and manage events for Heritage Day at national level annually.
>> * The first Heritage Day commemoration took place on 24 September 1995.
>>
>> * Although South Africans have diverse cultures, elements of national
> unity,
>> nation building, reconciliation and national patriotism should be
>> emphasised.
>> * The ideal is to preserve, exhibit and promote our diverse but connected
>> cultures.
>> * Heritage Day should encourage the youth, in particular, to embrace South
>> Africa's common heritage.
>>
>> * MINMEC decided that the theme for Heritage Day 2001 should be
> Celebrating
>> National Symbols.
>> * MINMEC declared the week of 17-24 September 2001 as National Symbols
> Week.
>> * The rationale behind this theme is that most South Africans do not
>> understand the role of national symbols in nation building.
>> * The symbols to be emphasised are: Anthem, Flag and Coat of arms
>> * Government also realises that since South Africa became a democratic
>> country, there have not been enough efforts to educate the public about
> the
>> importance of national symbols.
>>
>> * Our national symbols do not receive the dignified respect they deserve.
>> * It is often due to lack of information than disrespect that the majority
>> of South Africans do not observe the national symbols.
>> * Consequently, places such as museums and monuments, even those
> established
>> recently under the democratic government, still do not enjoy patronage by
>> all sections of the society.
>> * Museums and monuments are still generally alien to the ordinary South
>> Africans.
>> * Government is also aware that national symbols can play an important
> role
>> towards reconciliation and patriotism if programmes to popularise the
> nation
>> are introduced.
>> * The performance/singing of the national anthem by ordinary members of
> the
>> public is still characterised by racial patterns.
>> * This divisive situation does not augur well for our democracy and needs
> to
>> be changed.
>> * It is also necessary that government popularise the new coat of arms and
>> make it the trademark of South Africa.
>> * Government acknowledges that it needs to do more to popularise the
>> national symbols and therefore it would be inaccurate to conclude that all
>> of these negative patterns are manifestations of non-patriotism and
>> defiance.
>>
>>
>> OBJECTIVES OF HERITAGE DAY 2001
>>
>> * Promote the Heritage theme of Celebrating National Symbols
>> * Encourage the public to fight for unity, reconciliation, tolerance and
>> common heritage between cultural groups.
>> * Create awareness to the public that national symbols could play a
> unifying
>> role and instil a sense of patriotism among South Africans
>> * Mobilise the entire country across cultural and racial lines celebrate
>> Heritage Day as one nation
>> * Create awareness and educate the public about the national symbols and
>> their importance
>> * Position national symbols as metaphors of national pride and elements of
>> democracy
>> * Emphasise the importance of active participation by ordinary South
>> Africans to make democracy and social integration work for all.
>>
>>
>> THEME
>>
>> * Celebrating national symbols
>>
>>
>> CELEBRATING OUR NATIONAL SYMBOLS
>>
>> What are our National Symbols?
>>
>> Our national symbols are those official visual and verbal marks that
>> identify us as a nation. National symbols are defined in terms of the
>> Constitution and are meant to promote reconciliation and nation building.
> In
>> the constitution it is stated that the Republic of South Africa is a
>> sovereign democratic state founded on the following values:
>> * Human dignity, the achievement of equality and advancement of human
> rights
>> and freedoms
>> * Non-racialism and non-sexism
>> * The supremacy of the constitution and the rule of law
>> * Universal adult suffrage, national common voters roll, regular election,
>> and a multiparty system of democratic government to ensure accountability,
>> responsiveness and openness.
>>
>> These values are expressed in South Africa's:
>> * National Flag which we see as flying in the wind
>> * National Anthem which we hear being played on official occasions and
> which
>> is sung by us at schools and at sports events
>> * National Coat-of-Arms which we see on government buildings, documents,
>> vehicles, etc.
>>
>>
>> The National Flag
>>
>> The new national Flag of the Republic of South Africa was taken into use
> on
>> 27 April 1994. It was hoisted just after midnight as the new nation was
>> born. The design and colours of the flag are an outline of the principal
>> colours of South Africa's flag history, from the earliest times to the
>> present.
>>
>> There are a few important rules to adhere to when using the national Flag:
>> * The flag should be treated with respect. It should not be allowed to
> drag
>> on the ground or have something paced on top of it.
>> * A flag is read like a book - from top to bottom and from left to right.
>> Therefore it should be displayed in the correct manner:
>> * When displayed horizontally, the hoist should be to the left of the
>> spectator and the red band uppermost. When the flag is flown upside down,
>> it is a sign that the country is in distress
>> * When displayed vertically against a wall, the red band should be on the
>> left of the spectator with the hoist uppermost
>> * When displayed next to or behind the speaker, it should be placed on the
>> speaker's right hand.
>> * When the National Flag is displayed with other flags, it should be:
>> * Hoisted first and lowered last
>> * On the spectators' left if displayed on crossed staffs and its staff
> must
>> be in front of the staff of the other flag
>> * On the marching right in a procession with another flag/s
>> * and on the right of a building when flown with national flags or other
>> countries (all same size and flown at equal height).
>>
>>
>> The National Anthem
>>
>> Nkosi sikelel' iAfrika
>> Maluphakanyisw' uphondo lwayo,
>> Yizwa imithandazo yethu,
>> Nkosi sikelela, thina lusapho lwayo.Morena boloka setjhaba sa heso,
>> O fedise dintwa la matshwenyeho,
>> O se boloke, O se boloke setjhaba sa heso,
>> Setjhaba sa South Afrika - South Afrika.
>> Uit die blou van onse hemel,
>> Uit die diepte van ons see,
>> Oor ons ewige gebergtes,
>> Waar die kranse antwoord gee,
>> Sounds the call to come together,
>> And united we shall stand,
>> Let us live and strive for freedom,
>> In South Africa our land.
>>
>> This is the official version of the national Anthem, combining Nkosi
>> Sikelel' iAfrika, Die Stem and The Call of South Africa. As with all our
>> National Symbols, the National Anthem should be treated with dignity and
>> respect when played or sung.
>>
>>
>> The national Coat of Arms
>>
>> The role of a Coat of Arms
>>
>> The national Coat of Arms, or State symbol, is the highest visual symbol
> of
>> the State. Take a minute to consider the important events in your life -
>> birth, marriage, death and school certificates, your passport - they are
> all
>> made official by the Coat of Arms. Your smallest coin has it on one of its
>> sides. When away from the country seeing this symbol on the embassy
> building
>> signals a home away from home. The Coat of Arms is also a central part of
>> the Great Seal, traditionally considered to be the highest symbol of the
>> State. Absolute power is given to every document with a mark of the Great
>> Seal on it, as this means that it has the support of the President of
> South
>> Africa.
>>
>> A new Coat of Arms replaced one that has served South Africa since 17
>> September 1910. The change reflects Government's aim to highlight the
>> democratic change in South Africa and a new sense of nationalism.
>>
>>
>> Conclusion
>>
>> Symbols have been used as an easy way of democratically empowering
>> especially those South Africans who have for so long been excluded from
> most
>> of the decision-making processes in this country. The symbols of political
>> parties were used in the 1994 election for easy identification on ballot
>> papers.
>>
>> The three primary national symbols dealt with in this booklet represent
> this
>> new democracy and replace all previous equivalent symbols. Key values
>> underpinning these new symbols are reconciliation, unity in diversity and
>> nation building. Through these symbols every South African is encouraged,
>> mobilised, energised and inspired to own the process of taking this nation
>> from a divided past to a unified future.
>>
>>
>> http://www.dacst.gov.za
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> "Arts world in one website"
>> http://www.artslink.co.za
>>
>> Arts and Culture Trust of the President Award
>> Electronic Media of the Year in support of the arts
>> Winner 1998, Finalist 1999 and 2000/1
>>
>> IAWMD Golden Web Awards Winner May 2001
>>
>> Support South African Arts and Culture:
>> Dial-Up with Artslink.co.za and save!
>> http://www.at.artslink.co.za/isp
>>
>> Debate issues affecting the arts and culture industry
>> http://www.at.artslink.co.za/egroups.htm
>>
>>
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> Ek gebruik gewoonlik daardie dae om die honde stront op my grasperk op te tel.
>
> Annette wrote:
>
>> Ons gebruik daardie dag om die koor se golfdag te hou.
>
>>> HERITAGE DAY 2001
>

Ek neem aan julle het dieselfde dinge gedoen op
6 April en 10 Oktober en 16 Desember in die ou
dae. Cry, the beloved country, met sulke lands-
inwoners. Dit laat my ril.

Gloudina
Re: HERITAGE DAY 2001 [boodskap #50311 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #50305] Di, 18 September 2001 14:44 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
Annette  is tans af-lyn  Annette
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Nou toe nou!! Dit moet seker 'n baie klein en voorbeeldige hondjie wees:))))
Annette

...
> Ek gebruik gewoonlik daardie dae om die honde stront op my grasperk op te tel.
>
>
>
>
> Annette wrote:
>
>> Ons gebruik daardie dag om die koor se golfdag te hou.
>> Ek dink nie die spelers sing die volkslied by die afslaan op die eerste
>> putjie nie - dankie vir die voorstel:)))
>> Annette
>>
>>> HERITAGE DAY 2001
>>>
>>>
>>> BACKGROUND
>>>
>>> * After South Africa's first democratic elections in 1994, a Government of
>>> National Unity (GNU) was formed.
>>> * Government agreed that prior to the 1994 elections, there were important
>>> historical days that the apartheid government did not recognise.
>>> * These days were "unofficially" commemorated but not part of calendar of
>>> public holidays.
>>>
>>> * Cabinet decided that there should be a day (24 September) on which South
>>> Africans commemorate their heritage.
>>> * The Department of Arts, Culture, Science and Technology (DACST), as the
>>> custodian of South Africa's culture, was given the responsibility to plan
>>> and manage events for Heritage Day at national level annually.
>>> * The first Heritage Day commemoration took place on 24 September 1995.
>>>
>>> * Although South Africans have diverse cultures, elements of national
>> unity,
>>> nation building, reconciliation and national patriotism should be
>>> emphasised.
>>> * The ideal is to preserve, exhibit and promote our diverse but connected
>>> cultures.
>>> * Heritage Day should encourage the youth, in particular, to embrace South
>>> Africa's common heritage.
>>>
>>> * MINMEC decided that the theme for Heritage Day 2001 should be
>> Celebrating
>>> National Symbols.
>>> * MINMEC declared the week of 17-24 September 2001 as National Symbols
>> Week.
>>> * The rationale behind this theme is that most South Africans do not
>>> understand the role of national symbols in nation building.
>>> * The symbols to be emphasised are: Anthem, Flag and Coat of arms
>>> * Government also realises that since South Africa became a democratic
>>> country, there have not been enough efforts to educate the public
about
>> the
>>> importance of national symbols.
>>>
>>> * Our national symbols do not receive the dignified respect they deserve.
>>> * It is often due to lack of information than disrespect that the majority
>>> of South Africans do not observe the national symbols.
>>> * Consequently, places such as museums and monuments, even those
>> established
>>> recently under the democratic government, still do not enjoy patronage by
>>> all sections of the society.
>>> * Museums and monuments are still generally alien to the ordinary South
>>> Africans.
>>> * Government is also aware that national symbols can play an important
>> role
>>> towards reconciliation and patriotism if programmes to popularise the
>> nation
>>> are introduced.
>>> * The performance/singing of the national anthem by ordinary members
of
>> the
>>> public is still characterised by racial patterns.
>>> * This divisive situation does not augur well for our democracy and
needs
>> to
>>> be changed.
>>> * It is also necessary that government popularise the new coat of arms and
>>> make it the trademark of South Africa.
>>> * Government acknowledges that it needs to do more to popularise the
>>> national symbols and therefore it would be inaccurate to conclude that all
>>> of these negative patterns are manifestations of non-patriotism and
>>> defiance.
>>>
>>>
>>> OBJECTIVES OF HERITAGE DAY 2001
>>>
>>> * Promote the Heritage theme of Celebrating National Symbols
>>> * Encourage the public to fight for unity, reconciliation, tolerance and
>>> common heritage between cultural groups.
>>> * Create awareness to the public that national symbols could play a
>> unifying
>>> role and instil a sense of patriotism among South Africans
>>> * Mobilise the entire country across cultural and racial lines celebrate
>>> Heritage Day as one nation
>>> * Create awareness and educate the public about the national symbols and
>>> their importance
>>> * Position national symbols as metaphors of national pride and elements of
>>> democracy
>>> * Emphasise the importance of active participation by ordinary South
>>> Africans to make democracy and social integration work for all.
>>>
>>>
>>> THEME
>>>
>>> * Celebrating national symbols
>>>
>>>
>>> CELEBRATING OUR NATIONAL SYMBOLS
>>>
>>> What are our National Symbols?
>>>
>>> Our national symbols are those official visual and verbal marks that
>>> identify us as a nation. National symbols are defined in terms of the
>>> Constitution and are meant to promote reconciliation and nation
building.
>> In
>>> the constitution it is stated that the Republic of South Africa is a
>>> sovereign democratic state founded on the following values:
>>> * Human dignity, the achievement of equality and advancement of human
>> rights
>>> and freedoms
>>> * Non-racialism and non-sexism
>>> * The supremacy of the constitution and the rule of law
>>> * Universal adult suffrage, national common voters roll, regular election,
>>> and a multiparty system of democratic government to ensure accountability,
>>> responsiveness and openness.
>>>
>>> These values are expressed in South Africa's:
>>> * National Flag which we see as flying in the wind
>>> * National Anthem which we hear being played on official occasions and
>> which
>>> is sung by us at schools and at sports events
>>> * National Coat-of-Arms which we see on government buildings, documents,
>>> vehicles, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> The National Flag
>>>
>>> The new national Flag of the Republic of South Africa was taken into
use
>> on
>>> 27 April 1994. It was hoisted just after midnight as the new nation was
>>> born. The design and colours of the flag are an outline of the principal
>>> colours of South Africa's flag history, from the earliest times to the
>>> present.
>>>
>>> There are a few important rules to adhere to when using the national Flag:
>>> * The flag should be treated with respect. It should not be allowed
to
>> drag
>>> on the ground or have something paced on top of it.
>>> * A flag is read like a book - from top to bottom and from left to right.
>>> Therefore it should be displayed in the correct manner:
>>> * When displayed horizontally, the hoist should be to the left of the
>>> spectator and the red band uppermost. When the flag is flown upside down,
>>> it is a sign that the country is in distress
>>> * When displayed vertically against a wall, the red band should be on the
>>> left of the spectator with the hoist uppermost
>>> * When displayed next to or behind the speaker, it should be placed on the
>>> speaker's right hand.
>>> * When the National Flag is displayed with other flags, it should be:
>>> * Hoisted first and lowered last
>>> * On the spectators' left if displayed on crossed staffs and its staff
>> must
>>> be in front of the staff of the other flag
>>> * On the marching right in a procession with another flag/s
>>> * and on the right of a building when flown with national flags or other
>>> countries (all same size and flown at equal height).
>>>
>>>
>>> The National Anthem
>>>
>>> Nkosi sikelel' iAfrika
>>> Maluphakanyisw' uphondo lwayo,
>>> Yizwa imithandazo yethu,
>>> Nkosi sikelela, thina lusapho lwayo.Morena boloka setjhaba sa heso,
>>> O fedise dintwa la matshwenyeho,
>>> O se boloke, O se boloke setjhaba sa heso,
>>> Setjhaba sa South Afrika - South Afrika.
>>> Uit die blou van onse hemel,
>>> Uit die diepte van ons see,
>>> Oor ons ewige gebergtes,
>>> Waar die kranse antwoord gee,
>>> Sounds the call to come together,
>>> And united we shall stand,
>>> Let us live and strive for freedom,
>>> In South Africa our land.
>>>
>>> This is the official version of the national Anthem, combining Nkosi
>>> Sikelel' iAfrika, Die Stem and The Call of South Africa. As with all our
>>> National Symbols, the National Anthem should be treated with dignity and
>>> respect when played or sung.
>>>
>>>
>>> The national Coat of Arms
>>>
>>> The role of a Coat of Arms
>>>
>>> The national Coat of Arms, or State symbol, is the highest visual
symbol
>> of
>>> the State. Take a minute to consider the important events in your life -
>>> birth, marriage, death and school certificates, your passport - they
are
>> all
>>> made official by the Coat of Arms. Your smallest coin has it on one of its
>>> sides. When away from the country seeing this symbol on the embassy
>> building
>>> signals a home away from home. The Coat of Arms is also a central part of
>>> the Great Seal, traditionally considered to be the highest symbol of the
>>> State. Absolute power is given to every document with a mark of the Great
>>> Seal on it, as this means that it has the support of the President of
>> South
>>> Africa.
>>>
>>> A new Coat of Arms replaced one that has served South Africa since 17
>>> September 1910. The change reflects Government's aim to highlight the
>>> democratic change in South Africa and a new sense of nationalism.
>>>
>>>
>>> Conclusion
>>>
>>> Symbols have been used as an easy way of democratically empowering
>>> especially those South Africans who have for so long been excluded
from
>> most
>>> of the decision-making processes in this country. The symbols of political
>>> parties were used in the 1994 election for easy identification on ballot
>>> papers.
>>>
>>> The three primary national symbols dealt with in this booklet
represent
>> this
>>> new democracy and replace all previous equivalent symbols. Key values
>>> underpinning these new symbols are reconciliation, unity in diversity and
>>> nation building. Through these symbols every South African is encouraged,
>>> mobilised, energised and inspired to own the process of taking this nation
>>> from a divided past to a unified future.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.dacst.gov.za
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> "Arts world in one website"
>>> http://www.artslink.co.za
>>>
>>> Arts and Culture Trust of the President Award
>>> Electronic Media of the Year in support of the arts
>>> Winner 1998, Finalist 1999 and 2000/1
>>>
>>> IAWMD Golden Web Awards Winner May 2001
>>>
>>> Support South African Arts and Culture:
>>> Dial-Up with Artslink.co.za and save!
>>> http://www.at.artslink.co.za/isp
>>>
>>> Debate issues affecting the arts and culture industry
>>> http://www.at.artslink.co.za/egroups.htm
>>>
>>>
>
Re: HERITAGE DAY 2001 [boodskap #50313 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #50300] Di, 18 September 2001 15:51 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
boer...  is tans af-lyn  boer...
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Ek is bly om te sien dat jy darem nog die dae van belang so goed kan onthou.Seker
maar erg om so te verlang na die aparheidsdae, of hoe?

Boertjie - van die vootrekker laer

@home.com wrote:

> Boer...@eskom.co.za wrote:
>
>> Ek gebruik gewoonlik daardie dae om die honde stront op my grasperk op te tel.
>>
>> Annette wrote:
>>
>>> Ons gebruik daardie dag om die koor se golfdag te hou.
>>
>>>> HERITAGE DAY 2001
>>
>
> Ek neem aan julle het dieselfde dinge gedoen op
> 6 April en 10 Oktober en 16 Desember in die ou
> dae. Cry, the beloved country, met sulke lands-
> inwoners. Dit laat my ril.
>
> Gloudina
Re: HERITAGE DAY 2001 [boodskap #50324 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #50300] Di, 18 September 2001 18:12 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
Moira de Swardt  is tans af-lyn  Moira de Swardt
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wrote in message
> Boer...@eskom.co.za wrote:

>> Ek gebruik gewoonlik daardie dae om die honde stront op my
grasperk op te tel.

>>> Ons gebruik daardie dag om die koor se golfdag te hou.

> Ek neem aan julle het dieselfde dinge gedoen op
> 6 April en 10 Oktober en 16 Desember in die ou
> dae. Cry, the beloved country, met sulke lands-
> inwoners. Dit laat my ril.

'n Openbarevakansiedag is net 'n ander openbarevakansiedag.
Wasgoed, tuinwerk, braai, wat ook al.

Moira, the Faerie Godmother
Re: HERITAGE DAY 2001 [boodskap #50330 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #50324] Di, 18 September 2001 21:08 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
Annette  is tans af-lyn  Annette
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Moira, skaam jou:))) Jy moet alles vertel, anders verkeer mense onder 'n
wanindruk - ons doen die goed wat jy sê terwyl ons vreeeeeeslik skuldig voel
dat ons nie op 'n harde stoeltjie iewers sit en na politieke toesprake
luister nie;)))
Annette

--
> wrote in message
>> Boer...@eskom.co.za wrote:
>
>>> Ek gebruik gewoonlik daardie dae om die honde stront op my
> grasperk op te tel.
>
>>>> Ons gebruik daardie dag om die koor se golfdag te hou.
>
>> Ek neem aan julle het dieselfde dinge gedoen op
>> 6 April en 10 Oktober en 16 Desember in die ou
>> dae. Cry, the beloved country, met sulke lands-
>> inwoners. Dit laat my ril.
>
> 'n Openbarevakansiedag is net 'n ander openbarevakansiedag.
> Wasgoed, tuinwerk, braai, wat ook al.
>
> Moira, the Faerie Godmother
>
Re: HERITAGE DAY 2001 [boodskap #50332 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #50313] Di, 18 September 2001 21:18 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
Annette  is tans af-lyn  Annette
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Ek sien Gloudina verloor alweer tred met die tye.
Vertel die dierbare ou ding tog dat 'n organisasie gewoonlik net een golfdag
per jaar hou -
en dat die toesprake hier almal deesdae dieselfde gesanik oor en oor is -
maak nie saak watter dag gedenk word of wie die spreker is nie.
Ons sien tog die ou toesprakies die aand op die nuus, en lees dit in die
koerante.
Annette

>>
>> Ek neem aan julle het dieselfde dinge gedoen op
>> 6 April en 10 Oktober en 16 Desember in die ou
>> dae. Cry, the beloved country, met sulke lands-
>> inwoners. Dit laat my ril.
>>
>> Gloudina
>
Re: HERITAGE DAY 2001 [boodskap #50336 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #50300] Di, 18 September 2001 23:24 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
pop  is tans af-lyn  pop
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Nou wat wil jy hê hulle moet doen Gloudina, toyi toyi dalk?

Pop ( wat nie in glo in n vakansiedag vir elke cause nie).

skryf in boodskap news:3BA75C4F.F971469E@home.com...
> Boer...@eskom.co.za wrote:
>
>> Ek gebruik gewoonlik daardie dae om die honde stront op my grasperk op te tel.
>>
>> Annette wrote:
>>
>>> Ons gebruik daardie dag om die koor se golfdag te hou.
>>
>>>> HERITAGE DAY 2001
>>
>
> Ek neem aan julle het dieselfde dinge gedoen op
> 6 April en 10 Oktober en 16 Desember in die ou
> dae. Cry, the beloved country, met sulke lands-
> inwoners. Dit laat my ril.
>
> Gloudina
>
Re: HERITAGE DAY 2001 [boodskap #50356 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #50311] Wo, 19 September 2001 08:51 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
Grahame  is tans af-lyn  Grahame
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Met sy ellelange uiteensetting van Heritage day in Engels op 'n Afrikaanse
NG, toon TJ dat die Afrikaner nie veel sê in die nasionale simbole en
erflating van die huidige Xhosa-regering het nie. My erflating is die
Republiekvlag wat ek met trots voor my huis sal ophys op die 24ste. Dit
simboliseer minstens die opregtheid van die Boere-Afrikaner.

Gelukkig is ek nou nie een van die Nuwe Heiliges onder Afrikaner geledere
nie. Met die meer as half-miljoen mense, Blank en Nie-Blank wat in
Suid-Afrika sedert Mandela se vrylating vermoor is, die tengronde gaan van
ons ekonomie en onvermoë van ons regering om siektes en armoede te bestry,
weet ek nie of simbole ons redding gaan wees nie.

Ek het vrede met Swartes wat regeer, dis nie hulle skuld dat hulle daar is
nie.
Ek het vrede met anderstaliges wat ons verdoem; hulle doen dit al die
afgelope
vyftig jaar. Dit is die Nuwe Heiliges wat nou so oortuig is dat die
Afrikaner-
nasionalisme van die verlede so 'n onding was. Ek weier om te glo dat daar
in Suid-Afrika voor1994 bankrot gemeenskappe, moord op plaasboere en ou
mense, omkopery en korrupsie in hoë plekke, werkloosheid en onbevoegde
regering was.
Ons leiers het met trots en reverdigheid teenoor bona-fide belastingbetalers
geregeer en ons skuld in klinkende munt betaal. Tot en met De Klerk die
Kruiper, het die wêreld daarbuite ons gerespekteer.

Natuurlik het ek 'n erfenis om te onthou. Maar niks daarvan is na 1994 aan
my opgedis nie.
Grahame
Re: HERITAGE DAY 2001 [boodskap #50363 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #50356] Wo, 19 September 2001 10:07 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
TJ  is tans af-lyn  TJ
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Die persverklaring is in Engels ontvang van die Departement van Kuns,
Kultuur, Wetenskap en Tegnologie en aangestuur na die NG. Ek het nie 'n
Afrikaanse weergawe gekry of gesien nie.

Niks fout met my Afrikaans nie, maar elf tale work erken in SA op die
oomblik (miskien net nie op hiedie groep nie).

:-)

TJ
Re: HERITAGE DAY 2001 [boodskap #50375 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #50300] Wo, 19 September 2001 11:50 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
Anoniem
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pop wrote:

> Nou wat wil jy hê hulle moet doen Gloudina, toyi toyi dalk?
>
> Pop ( wat nie in glo in n vakansiedag vir elke cause nie).
>

Nee, Pop, maar wanneer mense neerhalend
van ander mense se kultuur praat en dit per
implikasie vergelyk met honde-ekskrement,
dan is daar fout êrens, groot fout, Pop. Weet
jy, een van die dinge wat my sal verhinder om
weer terug te gaan SA toe, is dat ek nie my
sal kan inhou wanneer ek hierdie soort gepraat
hoor nie. Lank gelede, toe die nie-blankes in
SA nog nie hulle waardigheid as burgers gewen
het nie, was daar 'n soort van ongesproke
ooreenkoms onder "witmense" dat mens nie te
neerhalend oor nie-blankes mag praat nie. Dit
was so 'n ondergrondse erkenning dat hulle
ook kinders van die Allerhoogste is, en mens
hulle moet as sodanig vereer, al maak jy nou
wette wat hulle van hulle grond afjaag en hulle
in tuislande inbondel. Maar nou, na 1994, lyk
dit vir my asof die sluise oopgetrek word en
'n sekere tipe Afrikaner laat nou maar die drek
uit sy mond uitloop soos dit wil. Ek is jammer
vir 'n persoon soos Gids wat, lyk dit my, ook
dik is vir hierdie soort ding, en nou weer gaan
terugkeer SA toe.

Gloudina
Re: HERITAGE DAY 2001 [boodskap #50383 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #50363] Wo, 19 September 2001 13:00 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
boer...  is tans af-lyn  boer...
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Moet ook nie een in afrikaans verwag nie!

TJ wrote:

> Die persverklaring is in Engels ontvang van die Departement van Kuns,
> Kultuur, Wetenskap en Tegnologie en aangestuur na die NG. Ek het nie 'n
> Afrikaanse weergawe gekry of gesien nie.
>
> Niks fout met my Afrikaans nie, maar elf tale work erken in SA op die
> oomblik (miskien net nie op hiedie groep nie).
>
> :-)
>
> TJ
Re: HERITAGE DAY 2001 [boodskap #50411 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #50300] Do, 20 September 2001 00:21 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
pop  is tans af-lyn  pop
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Ek dink tog nie so nie Gloudina, dit hang af in watter kringe
jy beweeg. Nie een van my vriende of familie
het iets anders as respek vir mense van n ander ras nie.
Ek moet sê dis altyd n riem onder my hart dat ja, hulle
kla oor misdaad en goed wat sleg is, maar nooit
word die rassistiese slegsêname genoem nie.

Daar is dus tog hoop.

Pop

skryf in boodskap news:3BA887B2.DAE2F315@home.com...
pop wrote:

> Nou wat wil jy hê hulle moet doen Gloudina, toyi toyi dalk?
>
> Pop ( wat nie in glo in n vakansiedag vir elke cause nie).
>

Nee, Pop, maar wanneer mense neerhalend
van ander mense se kultuur praat en dit per
implikasie vergelyk met honde-ekskrement,
dan is daar fout êrens, groot fout, Pop. Weet
jy, een van die dinge wat my sal verhinder om
weer terug te gaan SA toe, is dat ek nie my
sal kan inhou wanneer ek hierdie soort gepraat
hoor nie. Lank gelede, toe die nie-blankes in
SA nog nie hulle waardigheid as burgers gewen
het nie, was daar 'n soort van ongesproke
ooreenkoms onder "witmense" dat mens nie te
neerhalend oor nie-blankes mag praat nie. Dit
was so 'n ondergrondse erkenning dat hulle
ook kinders van die Allerhoogste is, en mens
hulle moet as sodanig vereer, al maak jy nou
wette wat hulle van hulle grond afjaag en hulle
in tuislande inbondel. Maar nou, na 1994, lyk
dit vir my asof die sluise oopgetrek word en
'n sekere tipe Afrikaner laat nou maar die drek
uit sy mond uitloop soos dit wil. Ek is jammer
vir 'n persoon soos Gids wat, lyk dit my, ook
dik is vir hierdie soort ding, en nou weer gaan
terugkeer SA toe.

Gloudina
Re: HERITAGE DAY 2001 [boodskap #50413 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #50300] Do, 20 September 2001 02:40 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
Anoniem
Oorspronklik gepos deur: @home.com

Pop wrote:

> Ek dink tog nie so nie Gloudina, dit hang af in watter kringe
> jy beweeg. Nie een van my vriende of familie
> het iets anders as respek vir mense van n ander ras nie.
> Ek moet sê dis altyd n riem onder my hart dat ja, hulle
> kla oor misdaad en goed wat sleg is, maar nooit
> word die rassistiese slegsêname genoem nie.
>
> pop wrote:
>
>> Nou wat wil jy hê hulle moet doen Gloudina, toyi toyi dalk?
>>
>> Pop ( wat nie in glo in n vakansiedag vir elke cause nie).

Nou, wat moet ek dink as "Pop" self die bostaande opmerkingmaak oor
die toyi toyi - duidelik 'n smalende opmerking. Ek was
werklik geskok toe ek daardie opmerking van jou lees. Wanneer
sien ek weer een slag dat jy mense oor die vingers tik oor
duidelike rasssistiese poste - soos Annette se sogenaamde WAT
lys, wat smalend probeer praat oor hoe swart mense Engels praat.
Ek is sat van hierdie soort hooghartigheid. Wie dink sy is sy? Ek
daag jou uit om sulke gedrag goed te praat.

Gloudina
Re: HERITAGE DAY 2001 [boodskap #50427 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #50300] Do, 20 September 2001 06:31 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
Lou  is tans af-lyn  Lou
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@home.com wrote:
> Maar nou, na 1994, lyk
> dit vir my asof die sluise oopgetrek word en
> 'n sekere tipe Afrikaner laat nou maar die drek
> uit sy mond uitloop soos dit wil. Ek is jammer
> vir 'n persoon soos Gids wat, lyk dit my, ook
> dik is vir hierdie soort ding, en nou weer gaan
> terugkeer SA toe.

En weereens vertoon Gloudna haar gebrek aan kennis oor die huidige
toestand is SA.
Re: HERITAGE DAY 2001 [boodskap #50450 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #50300] Do, 20 September 2001 12:49 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
Anoniem
Oorspronklik gepos deur: @home.com

Lou wrote:

> @home.com wrote:
>> 'n sekere tipe Afrikaner laat nou maar die drek
>> uit sy mond uitloop soos dit wil.
>
> En weereens vertoon Gloudna haar gebrek aan kennis oor die huidige
> toestand is SA.

So jy dink die nuusgroep hier is nie 'n mikro-kosmosvan wat in SA
aangaan nie? Die drek wat uit mense
se monde uitloop is nie verteenwoordigend van wat
in SA onder veral die Afrikaners aangaan nie? Jy
maak my hart so bly.

Gloudina
Re: HERITAGE DAY 2001 [boodskap #50455 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #50300] Do, 20 September 2001 13:14 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
Lou  is tans af-lyn  Lou
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/crosspost aff

@home.com wrote:
>
> Lou wrote:
>
>> @home.com wrote:
>>> 'n sekere tipe Afrikaner laat nou maar die drek
>>> uit sy mond uitloop soos dit wil.
>>
>> En weereens vertoon Gloudna haar gebrek aan kennis oor die huidige
>> toestand is SA.
>
> So jy dink die nuusgroep hier is nie 'n mikro-kosmosvan wat in SA
> aangaan nie? Die drek wat uit mense
> se monde uitloop is nie verteenwoordigend van wat
> in SA onder veral die Afrikaners aangaan nie? Jy
> maak my hart so bly.

Bly dat ek jou dag bietjie kon opvrolik. Statisties is jy egter
heeltemal verkeerd.
Re: HERITAGE DAY 2001 [boodskap #50487 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #50300] Do, 20 September 2001 21:45 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
pop  is tans af-lyn  pop
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Gloudina, Annette is my vriendin. Ek gaan niks teen haar
sê nie, as ek wou, sou ek eers n myl in haar skoene moes loop.
Ek het glad nie gedink toyi toyi is beledigend nie, dit
is immers n volksdans soort van, dis egter n
simbool van solidariteit wat nie almal deel nie.
As jy nie VIR iemand is nie, beteken nie dat
jy TEEN hulle is nie.

Pop

skryf in boodskap news:3BA95847.FB07DE0C@home.com...
Pop wrote:

> Ek dink tog nie so nie Gloudina, dit hang af in watter kringe
> jy beweeg. Nie een van my vriende of familie
> het iets anders as respek vir mense van n ander ras nie.
> Ek moet sê dis altyd n riem onder my hart dat ja, hulle
> kla oor misdaad en goed wat sleg is, maar nooit
> word die rassistiese slegsêname genoem nie.
>
> pop wrote:
>
>> Nou wat wil jy hê hulle moet doen Gloudina, toyi toyi dalk?
>>
>> Pop ( wat nie in glo in n vakansiedag vir elke cause nie).

Nou, wat moet ek dink as "Pop" self die bostaande opmerkingmaak oor
die toyi toyi - duidelik 'n smalende opmerking. Ek was
werklik geskok toe ek daardie opmerking van jou lees. Wanneer
sien ek weer een slag dat jy mense oor die vingers tik oor
duidelike rasssistiese poste - soos Annette se sogenaamde WAT
lys, wat smalend probeer praat oor hoe swart mense Engels praat.
Ek is sat van hierdie soort hooghartigheid. Wie dink sy is sy? Ek
daag jou uit om sulke gedrag goed te praat.

Gloudina
Re: HERITAGE DAY 2001 [boodskap #50490 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #50300] Do, 20 September 2001 22:05 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
Anoniem
Oorspronklik gepos deur: @home.com

pop wrote:

> Gloudina, Annette is my vriendin. Ek gaan niks teen haar
> sê nie

Ek het nie gevra dat jy iets téén Annette moet sê nie.Ek het gevra
wanneer JY weer sal begin om die soort
gedrag te veroordeel. Weet jy, toe jy eers op hierdie
nuusgroep begin pos het, was jy baie meer definitief
oor wat jy as rassisties onbeskofd en onbeskaafd
gesien het. Jy doen geeneen 'n guns om nou pêllie pêllie
te wees met mense wat dink hulle is koning van die
mishoop nie. Afrikaners is maar 'n klein handjievol
in die algehele bevolking van SA. As hulle almal tesaam
van die aardbol afval, sal dit nie die einde van die
wêreld wees nie. MAAR as lede van hierdie handjievol
mense met Afrikanet-bloed in hulle are toelaat dat die
vrot appels tussen hulle die hele oes vrot maak, dan
verloor ons die Afrikaner as 'n trotse en regdenkende
groep. En DIT IS WAARVOOR EK WAAK.

Gloudina
Re: HERITAGE DAY 2001 [boodskap #50495 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #50487] Do, 20 September 2001 22:34 Na vorige boodskap
Annette  is tans af-lyn  Annette
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Toyi-toyi:
Regstellende Aksie Gimnastiek:)))
Annette ( wat geen gimnastiek van enige aard doen nie - net soms:)) )

--
Groetnis,
Annette. ann...@ctnet.co.za
Happiness is a state of Mind.

pop skryf in boodskap news:9odo5r$hk2$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net...
> Gloudina, Annette is my vriendin. Ek gaan niks teen haar
> sê nie, as ek wou, sou ek eers n myl in haar skoene moes loop.
> Ek het glad nie gedink toyi toyi is beledigend nie, dit
> is immers n volksdans soort van, dis egter n
> simbool van solidariteit wat nie almal deel nie.
> As jy nie VIR iemand is nie, beteken nie dat
> jy TEEN hulle is nie.
>
> Pop
>
>
>
> skryf in boodskap news:3BA95847.FB07DE0C@home.com...
> Pop wrote:
>
>> Ek dink tog nie so nie Gloudina, dit hang af in watter kringe
>> jy beweeg. Nie een van my vriende of familie
>> het iets anders as respek vir mense van n ander ras nie.
>> Ek moet sê dis altyd n riem onder my hart dat ja, hulle
>> kla oor misdaad en goed wat sleg is, maar nooit
>> word die rassistiese slegsêname genoem nie.
>>
>> pop wrote:
>>
>>> Nou wat wil jy hê hulle moet doen Gloudina, toyi toyi dalk?
>>>
>>> Pop ( wat nie in glo in n vakansiedag vir elke cause nie).
>
> Nou, wat moet ek dink as "Pop" self die bostaande opmerkingmaak oor
> die toyi toyi - duidelik 'n smalende opmerking. Ek was
> werklik geskok toe ek daardie opmerking van jou lees. Wanneer
> sien ek weer een slag dat jy mense oor die vingers tik oor
> duidelike rasssistiese poste - soos Annette se sogenaamde WAT
> lys, wat smalend probeer praat oor hoe swart mense Engels praat.
> Ek is sat van hierdie soort hooghartigheid. Wie dink sy is sy? Ek
> daag jou uit om sulke gedrag goed te praat.
>
> Gloudina
>
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