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Toe sit ek skielik en wonder of Engelse sout dan Epsom salt is, en
waarom dit dan Engelse sout genoem word. Miskien weet julle almal,
maar ek het nie geweet nie, en net miskien sou iemand anders dalk ook
belangstel, so...:-)
http://www.epsom.townpage.co.uk/salts.htm
Epsom salts is the name originally given to hydrated magnesium
sulphate, MgSO4.7H20
Millions of people all over the world have asked for Epsom salts, and
used it with recognisable effect, without knowing anything about
Epsom.
The name was first used, as far as is known, by Nehemiah Grew in 1695.
He lists other wells around London, including Barnet, Acton, Dulwich
and Streatham, where the water was of the same nature as Epsom. He was
granted a Royal patent for "The Way of Makeing the Salt of the Purging
Waters perfectly fine...very cheape". But though Epsom gave its name
to the water, the quantities available from the Epsom wells were
relatively small.
The reasons for the efficacious action of Epsom salts were not known
until a long time after its discovery, and magnesium as an element was
not discovered until nearly a century later. Medical knowledge was, of
course, very much less at that time, so there was correspondingly more
scope for waters becoming known for their curative powers. People
travelled long distances in the hope that they would be cured of their
ills. Some mineral waters were supposed to cure almost everything one
can imagine, and, whatever one's ailment, a cure for it could be
bought from the chemist.
The first record of the Epsom Well, though it was already famous then,
is in an account of 1629 by 2 Dutch diplomats who set out from London
on horseback "to see some Royal Castles and Ipson Wells".
(incidentally, this account was first published in Holland in 1942!).
Lord North, in 1637, claims to have been the first to have told the
King's people of the use of Tonbridge and Epsom waters for health and
cure, and added that it was a lot cheaper than travelling to Spa on
the Continent.
Another Dutchman, William Schellinks, did the only early drawing of
the well in 1662. "The practice of the drinking of the water is early
in the morning...it is drunk on an empty stomach from mugs holding one
pint....some drink (up to) sixteen pints in one journey. And one must
then go for a walk, works extraordinarily excellent, with various
funny results.........putting down sentinels in the shrub in every
direction....in hot and dry summers the water....has more
strength.....people come in such large crowds that the village which
is fairly large and spread at least 300 beds is still too small...
Pepys visited Epsom in 1663, and had to find lodging in Ashstead "in a
little hole we could not stand upright in" The next day, he came to
well and finds a "great store of citizen there, though some of better
quality" He drinks two pots and is amused to see "how everyone turns
up his tail....in a bush". He comes again in 1667, arriving at 8 on a
Sunday morning, drinks 4 pints and reports good results, though his
companions did not.
A full history of the Wells, from which the above extracts are taken,
is given in "Epsom Wells - A new history of Epsom Wells and Epsom
Salts" written by Maurice Exwood FIEE FRHistS and published by the
Epsom and Ewell borough council. It contains a print of Schellinks'
drawing and other illustrations.
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| Re: Engelse Sout [boodskap #55392 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #55381] |
So, 13 Januarie 2002 16:45  |
Jonas
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Wat van kasterolie ?
"Danielle" skryf in boodskap news:cs114uont7r1qe00ogck0r59ag3qhdhdor@4ax.com...
> Toe sit ek skielik en wonder of Engelse sout dan Epsom salt is, en
> waarom dit dan Engelse sout genoem word. Miskien weet julle almal,
> maar ek het nie geweet nie, en net miskien sou iemand anders dalk ook
> belangstel, so...:-)
>
> http://www.epsom.townpage.co.uk/salts.htm
>
> Epsom salts is the name originally given to hydrated magnesium
> sulphate, MgSO4.7H20
> Millions of people all over the world have asked for Epsom salts, and
> used it with recognisable effect, without knowing anything about
> Epsom.
>
> The name was first used, as far as is known, by Nehemiah Grew in 1695.
> He lists other wells around London, including Barnet, Acton, Dulwich
> and Streatham, where the water was of the same nature as Epsom. He was
> granted a Royal patent for "The Way of Makeing the Salt of the Purging
> Waters perfectly fine...very cheape". But though Epsom gave its name
> to the water, the quantities available from the Epsom wells were
> relatively small.
>
> The reasons for the efficacious action of Epsom salts were not known
> until a long time after its discovery, and magnesium as an element was
> not discovered until nearly a century later. Medical knowledge was, of
> course, very much less at that time, so there was correspondingly more
> scope for waters becoming known for their curative powers. People
> travelled long distances in the hope that they would be cured of their
> ills. Some mineral waters were supposed to cure almost everything one
> can imagine, and, whatever one's ailment, a cure for it could be
> bought from the chemist.
>
> The first record of the Epsom Well, though it was already famous then,
> is in an account of 1629 by 2 Dutch diplomats who set out from London
> on horseback "to see some Royal Castles and Ipson Wells".
> (incidentally, this account was first published in Holland in 1942!).
> Lord North, in 1637, claims to have been the first to have told the
> King's people of the use of Tonbridge and Epsom waters for health and
> cure, and added that it was a lot cheaper than travelling to Spa on
> the Continent.
>
> Another Dutchman, William Schellinks, did the only early drawing of
> the well in 1662. "The practice of the drinking of the water is early
> in the morning...it is drunk on an empty stomach from mugs holding one
> pint....some drink (up to) sixteen pints in one journey. And one must
> then go for a walk, works extraordinarily excellent, with various
> funny results.........putting down sentinels in the shrub in every
> direction....in hot and dry summers the water....has more
> strength.....people come in such large crowds that the village which
> is fairly large and spread at least 300 beds is still too small...
>
> Pepys visited Epsom in 1663, and had to find lodging in Ashstead "in a
> little hole we could not stand upright in" The next day, he came to
> well and finds a "great store of citizen there, though some of better
> quality" He drinks two pots and is amused to see "how everyone turns
> up his tail....in a bush". He comes again in 1667, arriving at 8 on a
> Sunday morning, drinks 4 pints and reports good results, though his
> companions did not.
>
> A full history of the Wells, from which the above extracts are taken,
> is given in "Epsom Wells - A new history of Epsom Wells and Epsom
> Salts" written by Maurice Exwood FIEE FRHistS and published by the
> Epsom and Ewell borough council. It contains a print of Schellinks'
> drawing and other illustrations.
>
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| Re: Engelse Sout [boodskap #55393 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #55392] |
So, 13 Januarie 2002 16:57 |
Waaierstertmuis
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 18:45:23 +0200, "Jonas" wrote:
> Wat van kasterolie ?
Noem my maar dom, maar ek verstaan nie jou vraag nie, Jonas.
Wat het jou vraag te make met die stuk hieronder oor die oorsprong van
die naam "Engelse sout"? Ek probeer nie moeilik wees nie - net
verstaan wat jy bedoel.
(Terloops, Kaster olie, van die plant Ricinus communis, is al bekend
van voor 4000 BC volgens opgrawings van ou Egiptiese grafte) :-)
As jy nog wil weet oor kaster olie, gaan na:
http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/g2603/0002/2603000253/p1/ article.jhtml
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> "Danielle" wrote in message
> news:cs114uont7r1qe00ogck0r59ag3qhdhdor@4ax.com...
>> Toe sit ek skielik en wonder of Engelse sout dan Epsom salt is, en
>> waarom dit dan Engelse sout genoem word. Miskien weet julle almal,
>> maar ek het nie geweet nie, en net miskien sou iemand anders dalk ook
>> belangstel, so...:-)
>> http://www.epsom.townpage.co.uk/salts.htm
>> Epsom salts is the name originally given to hydrated magnesium
>> sulphate, MgSO4.7H20
>> Millions of people all over the world have asked for Epsom salts, and
>> used it with recognisable effect, without knowing anything about
>> Epsom.
>> The name was first used, as far as is known, by Nehemiah Grew in 1695.
>> He lists other wells around London, including Barnet, Acton, Dulwich
>> and Streatham, where the water was of the same nature as Epsom. He was
>> granted a Royal patent for "The Way of Makeing the Salt of the Purging
>> Waters perfectly fine...very cheape". But though Epsom gave its name
>> to the water, the quantities available from the Epsom wells were
>> relatively small.
>> The reasons for the efficacious action of Epsom salts were not known
>> until a long time after its discovery, and magnesium as an element was
>> not discovered until nearly a century later. Medical knowledge was, of
>> course, very much less at that time, so there was correspondingly more
>> scope for waters becoming known for their curative powers. People
>> travelled long distances in the hope that they would be cured of their
>> ills. Some mineral waters were supposed to cure almost everything one
>> can imagine, and, whatever one's ailment, a cure for it could be
>> bought from the chemist.
>> The first record of the Epsom Well, though it was already famous then,
>> is in an account of 1629 by 2 Dutch diplomats who set out from London
>> on horseback "to see some Royal Castles and Ipson Wells".
>> (incidentally, this account was first published in Holland in 1942!).
>> Lord North, in 1637, claims to have been the first to have told the
>> King's people of the use of Tonbridge and Epsom waters for health and
>> cure, and added that it was a lot cheaper than travelling to Spa on
>> the Continent.
>> Another Dutchman, William Schellinks, did the only early drawing of
>> the well in 1662. "The practice of the drinking of the water is early
>> in the morning...it is drunk on an empty stomach from mugs holding one
>> pint....some drink (up to) sixteen pints in one journey. And one must
>> then go for a walk, works extraordinarily excellent, with various
>> funny results.........putting down sentinels in the shrub in every
>> direction....in hot and dry summers the water....has more
>> strength.....people come in such large crowds that the village which
>> is fairly large and spread at least 300 beds is still too small...
>> Pepys visited Epsom in 1663, and had to find lodging in Ashstead "in a
>> little hole we could not stand upright in" The next day, he came to
>> well and finds a "great store of citizen there, though some of better
>> quality" He drinks two pots and is amused to see "how everyone turns
>> up his tail....in a bush". He comes again in 1667, arriving at 8 on a
>> Sunday morning, drinks 4 pints and reports good results, though his
>> companions did not.
>> A full history of the Wells, from which the above extracts are taken,
>> is given in "Epsom Wells - A new history of Epsom Wells and Epsom
>> Salts" written by Maurice Exwood FIEE FRHistS and published by the
>> Epsom and Ewell borough council. It contains a print of Schellinks'
>> drawing and other illustrations.
>
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| Re: Engelse Sout [boodskap #55404 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #55393] |
Ma, 14 Januarie 2002 04:24 |
Jonas
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Sommige mense noem dit humor Danielle .... {; - )
"Danielle" skryf in boodskap news:dle34u474aj3r65k13rcloumshck16v8ke@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 18:45:23 +0200, "Jonas"
> wrote:
>
>> Wat van kasterolie ?
>
> Noem my maar dom, maar ek verstaan nie jou vraag nie, Jonas.
> Wat het jou vraag te make met die stuk hieronder oor die oorsprong van
> die naam "Engelse sout"? Ek probeer nie moeilik wees nie - net
> verstaan wat jy bedoel.
> (Terloops, Kaster olie, van die plant Ricinus communis, is al bekend
> van voor 4000 BC volgens opgrawings van ou Egiptiese grafte) :-)
>
> As jy nog wil weet oor kaster olie, gaan na:
> http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/g2603/0002/2603000253/p1/ article.jhtml
>
>
>
>
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>> "Danielle" wrote in message
>> news:cs114uont7r1qe00ogck0r59ag3qhdhdor@4ax.com...
>>> Toe sit ek skielik en wonder of Engelse sout dan Epsom salt is, en
>>> waarom dit dan Engelse sout genoem word. Miskien weet julle almal,
>>> maar ek het nie geweet nie, en net miskien sou iemand anders dalk ook
>>> belangstel, so...:-)
>
>>> http://www.epsom.townpage.co.uk/salts.htm
>
>>> Epsom salts is the name originally given to hydrated magnesium
>>> sulphate, MgSO4.7H20
>>> Millions of people all over the world have asked for Epsom salts, and
>>> used it with recognisable effect, without knowing anything about
>>> Epsom.
>
>>> The name was first used, as far as is known, by Nehemiah Grew in 1695.
>>> He lists other wells around London, including Barnet, Acton, Dulwich
>>> and Streatham, where the water was of the same nature as Epsom. He was
>>> granted a Royal patent for "The Way of Makeing the Salt of the Purging
>>> Waters perfectly fine...very cheape". But though Epsom gave its name
>>> to the water, the quantities available from the Epsom wells were
>>> relatively small.
>
>>> The reasons for the efficacious action of Epsom salts were not known
>>> until a long time after its discovery, and magnesium as an element was
>>> not discovered until nearly a century later. Medical knowledge was, of
>>> course, very much less at that time, so there was correspondingly more
>>> scope for waters becoming known for their curative powers. People
>>> travelled long distances in the hope that they would be cured of their
>>> ills. Some mineral waters were supposed to cure almost everything one
>>> can imagine, and, whatever one's ailment, a cure for it could be
>>> bought from the chemist.
>
>>> The first record of the Epsom Well, though it was already famous then,
>>> is in an account of 1629 by 2 Dutch diplomats who set out from London
>>> on horseback "to see some Royal Castles and Ipson Wells".
>>> (incidentally, this account was first published in Holland in 1942!).
>>> Lord North, in 1637, claims to have been the first to have told the
>>> King's people of the use of Tonbridge and Epsom waters for health and
>>> cure, and added that it was a lot cheaper than travelling to Spa on
>>> the Continent.
>
>>> Another Dutchman, William Schellinks, did the only early drawing of
>>> the well in 1662. "The practice of the drinking of the water is early
>>> in the morning...it is drunk on an empty stomach from mugs holding one
>>> pint....some drink (up to) sixteen pints in one journey. And one must
>>> then go for a walk, works extraordinarily excellent, with various
>>> funny results.........putting down sentinels in the shrub in every
>>> direction....in hot and dry summers the water....has more
>>> strength.....people come in such large crowds that the village which
>>> is fairly large and spread at least 300 beds is still too small...
>
>>> Pepys visited Epsom in 1663, and had to find lodging in Ashstead "in a
>>> little hole we could not stand upright in" The next day, he came to
>>> well and finds a "great store of citizen there, though some of better
>>> quality" He drinks two pots and is amused to see "how everyone turns
>>> up his tail....in a bush". He comes again in 1667, arriving at 8 on a
>>> Sunday morning, drinks 4 pints and reports good results, though his
>>> companions did not.
>
>>> A full history of the Wells, from which the above extracts are taken,
>>> is given in "Epsom Wells - A new history of Epsom Wells and Epsom
>>> Salts" written by Maurice Exwood FIEE FRHistS and published by the
>>> Epsom and Ewell borough council. It contains a print of Schellinks'
>>> drawing and other illustrations.
>
>
>>
>
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Ma, 14 Januarie 2002 04:47 |
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 06:24:35 +0200, "Jonas" wrote:
> Sommige mense noem dit humor Danielle .... {; - )
Ooooooo.....:-)) Gee kans man - ek moet nog eers weer akklimatiseer -
was darem amper 'n maand weg!
(Ek vang dit nogsteeds nie....maar dis ook okay, hoor!) :-))
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