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From: Henry
Subject: Re: Afghan-American speaks
Date: Thursday, September 27, 2001 6:03 PM
haniba...@webtv.net (Anibal) wrote in message
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> Afghan-American speaks
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> Group: alt.discuss.clubs.public.issues.misc.proud americans Date: Thu,
> Sep 20, 2001, 10:49am (EDT-3) From: WebG...@webtv.net (Goldilocks)
> This was posted in another group, there are some opinions here that I
> think are worth reading and thinking about.
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> An Afgani-American writes
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> I've been hearing a lot of talk about "bombing Afghanistan back to the
> Stone Age." Ronn Owens, on KGO Talk Radio today, allowed that this would
> mean killing innocent people, people who had nothing to do with this
> atrocity, but "we're at war, we have to accept collateral damage. What
> else can we do?" Minutes later I heard some TV pundit discussing whether
> we "have the belly to do what must be done." And I thought about the
> issues being raised especially hard because I am from Afghanistan, and
> even though I've lived here for 35 years I've never lost track of what's
> going on there. So I want to tell anyone who will listen how it all
> looks from where I'm standing. I speak as one who hates the Taliban and
> Osama Bin Laden. There is no doubt in my mind that these people were
> responsible for the atrocity in New York. I agree that something must be
> done about those monsters. But the Taliban and Ben Laden are not
> Afghanistan. They're not even the government of Afghanistan. The Taliban
> are a cult of ignorant psychotics who took over Afghanistan in 1997. Bin
> Laden is a political criminal with a plan.
> When you think Taliban, think Nazis. When you think Bin Laden,
> think Hitler. And when you think "the people of Afghanistan" think "the
> Jews in the concentration camps." It's not only that the Afghan
> people had nothing to do with this atrocity. They were the first victims
> of the perpetrators. They would exult if someone would come in there,
> take out the Taliban and clear out the rats nest of international thugs
> holed up in their country.
> Some say, why don't the Afghans rise up and overthrow the Taliban? The
> answer is, they're starved, exhausted, hurt, incapacitated, suffering. A
> few years ago, the United Nations estimated that there are 500,000
> disabled orphans in Afghanistan--a country with no economy, no food.
> There are millions of widows.
> And the Taliban has been burying these widows alive in mass graves. The
> soil is littered with land mines, the farms were all destroyed by the
> Soviets. These are a few of the reasons why the Afghan people have not
> overthrown the Taliban.
> We come now to the question of bombing Afghanistan back to the Stone
> Age. Trouble is, that's been done. The Soviets took care of it already.
> Make the Afghans suffer? They're already suffering. Level their houses?
> Done. Turn their schools into piles of rubble? Done. Eradicate their
> hospitals? Done. Destroy their infrastructure? Cut them off from
> medicine and health care? Too late. Someone already did all that. New
> bombs would only stir the rubble of earlier bombs. Would they at least
> get the Taliban? Not likely. In today's Afghanistan, only the Taliban
> eat, only they have the means to move around. They'd slip away and hide.
> Maybe the bombs would get some of those disabled orphans, they don't
> move too fast, they don't even have wheelchairs. But flying over Kabul
> and dropping bombs wouldn't really be a strike against the criminals who
> did this horrific thing. Actually it would only be making common cause
> with the Taliban--by raping once again the people they've been raping
> all this time.
> So what else is there? What can be done, then? Let me now speak with
> true fear and trembling. The only way to get Bin Laden is to go in there
> with ground troops. When people speak of "having the belly to do what
> needs to be done" they're thinking in terms of having the belly to kill
> as many as needed. Having the belly to overcome any moral qualms about
> killing innocent people. Let's pull our heads out of the sand. What's
> actually on the table is Americans dying. And not just because some
> Americans would die fighting their way through Afghanistan to Bin
> Laden's hideout. It's much bigger than that folks. Because to get any
> troops to Afghanistan, we'd have to go through Pakistan. Would they let
> us? Not likely. The conquest of Pakistan would have to be first. Will
> other Muslim nations just stand by? You see where I'm going. We're
> flirting with a World war between Islam and the West. And guess what:
> that's Bin Laden's program. That's exactly what he wants. That's why he
> did this. Read his speeches and statements. It's all right there. He
> really believes Islam would beat the west. It might seem ridiculous, but
> he figures if he can polarize the world into Islam and the West, he's
> got a billion soldiers. If the west wreaks a holocaust in those lands,
> that's a billion people with nothing left to lose; that's even better
> from Bin Laden's point of view. He's probably wrong, in the end the west
> would win, whatever that would mean, but the war would last for years
> and millions would die, not just theirs but ours.
> Who has the belly for that?
> Bin Laden does. Anyone else?
> Tamim Ansary
Seemss to me this guy knows what the deal looks now.
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