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Re: bOER TOER [boodskap #105927] Do, 15 September 2005 05:28 na volgende boodskap
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Etterkop, apartheid is lankal verby! Ek is seker dat jy vandag ook nog
potjiekos hou en jou ma koeksisters bak. Vandag hou julle net nie
Martini Henry's in die hand nie, maar AK 47's (of is ek verkeerd).
Vandag, leef ek en jy in die ware wereld > saam! Daar is egter een
groot verskil, terwyl die boere die wereld regeer het, was daar nie so
baie bedrog soos nou nie. Sou jy nie dink, al soen ons hulle "gatte",
word die boere nogsteeds by dosyne vermoor nie. Jy's reg - ons "gatte"
word alreeds goed geskop! Dit is jammer want as ons almal nie so
negatief soos jy was nie, kon ons 'n lekker klompie saam gewees het.
Miskien moet jy die verlede vergeet en saam met die boere begin leef
(soos die boere in elk geval gedwing word om te doen:. Weet jy hoe min
die bevolking in elk geval in Orania is? Dit is 'n klein groepie mense
wat soontoe gaan en ek dink ook dit "suck".
Re: bOER TOER [boodskap #105932 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #105927] Vr, 16 September 2005 05:02 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
kaalbaster  is tans af-lyn  kaalbaster
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Etterkop, ek wonder vandag hoe oud jy is - ek raai dat jy nog eintlik
jonk is. Almal van ons is realiste wat
sien wat ons wil sien. En ja, die wind kan nie die verlede wegwaai
nie, maar dit help nie om te teer op die
verlede nie - die maak 'n mens negatief. Miskien moet jy net een dag
opstaan en besluit dat jy almal
vandag in die oë gaan kyk, boer of nie boer nie. Die boere maak so.
Ek is dan sekerlik een van die boere
wat nie in Orania wil gaan bly nie (verseker). Weet jy wat, ek het 'n
klein ou swart baba seuntjie aangeneem,
wat ek net so lief as my eie kinders het. En ek is 'n boer!!

Groetnis
Re: bOER TOER [boodskap #105948 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #105932] Sa, 17 September 2005 14:04 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
Jim Again  is tans af-lyn  Jim Again
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Joma/friend

You are a typical liberal ass-crawling afrikaans doos with
your litte HIV+ black ape that you decided to foster and
keep in your house. The likes of you are so filthy of
typical liberal bigotry! I am afraid your other 'friend',
mr Etterkop is quite right about the fact that your fellow
sub-human black ape friends are going to slaughter you and
your white liberal scum, and hopefully permanently remove
you from the face of the earth!

You and your type are not welcome here!

You white liberals are the filthiest and lowest form
of worm-like scum that one can find on this planet!

This is Africa, and the day is coming very close when
your beloved black fellow sub-human beings are going
to mass and invade your white apartheid style golf-
estates and security villages only to hack you to
death and rape your women repeatedly, and after-
wards claim your property, cars and all your
belongings!

In that day the deaths you white liberals would
be praised!

Fuck all of your bigoted white liberal scum!

May you all die a very long and pailfull death at
the very hands of your beloved black fellows!

Every time the media reports another death of
some white liberal (or his/her family) who got
slaughtered or killed during a highjacking or
robbery at the very hands of their beloved
black fellows, - we then REJOICE!

Ha Ha!

May you white liberals all die soon!

I love you!
Re: bOER TOER [boodskap #105965 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #105932] Ma, 19 September 2005 05:03 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
Otterkop  is tans af-lyn  Otterkop
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Is ek het 'n probleem met blankes wat klein swartetjies aanneem.
Ek wonder net wat die regte moteif is. Soos ek hulle in Menlyn sien
rondbegeeg gaan dit oor "show".

Vertel wat was jou motief

"friend" wrote in message
news:1126846965.972735.149890@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com.. .
Etterkop, ek wonder vandag hoe oud jy is - ek raai dat jy nog eintlik
jonk is. Almal van ons is realiste wat
sien wat ons wil sien. En ja, die wind kan nie die verlede wegwaai
nie, maar dit help nie om te teer op die
verlede nie - die maak 'n mens negatief. Miskien moet jy net een dag
opstaan en besluit dat jy almal
vandag in die oë gaan kyk, boer of nie boer nie. Die boere maak so.
Ek is dan sekerlik een van die boere
wat nie in Orania wil gaan bly nie (verseker). Weet jy wat, ek het 'n
klein ou swart baba seuntjie aangeneem,
wat ek net so lief as my eie kinders het. En ek is 'n boer!!

Groetnis
Re: bOER TOER [boodskap #105968 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #105927] Ma, 19 September 2005 05:31 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
kaalbaster  is tans af-lyn  kaalbaster
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Hoekom het ek die klein kaffertjie in my huis geneem - dit is baie
maklik as jy nie politiek gebonde
is. En nee, ek stoot hom nie in Pick a Pay in 'n trollie rond vir
"show" nie, ek kyk nie eers hoeveel mense
vir my kyk en gee nie om hoeveel mense aanmerkings maak nie, want ek
gee nie 'n hel om nie. Ek het
nie gaan soek vir die kaffertjie om aan te neem nie - dit was 'n
belofte aan sy sterwende moeder (EN NIE AAN
AIDS NIE!!). Alle swart mense gaan nie aan Aids dood nie!!) En so het
hy ook nie Aids nie. Hy is 'n
gesonder mens as jy dink ek. Ek weet ook dat hy my nie in die gesig
gaan spoeg oor die verlede nie, want
alles het verander en was ek ook nie deel van die verlede nie. Ek maak
hom groot in 'n gesonde, nie-rassistiese
omgewing waar daar nie "etterkoppe" is om die lug te besoedel nie. Ek
hoef ook nie in Soweto te gaan leef nie, want
ek verdien my respek by swart en wit net hier waar ek bly en werk.
Hoekom skeer jy almal oor dieselfde kam, en vra ek
weer hoekom maak jy nie vrede met die verlede - almal (swart en wit)
probeer, maar dit is mense soos jy wat die haat aanjaag
en aanwakker en aanstook en dan groepe so opstook dat dit geen wonder
is dat daar nie "rus" kan kom nie. As jy nie kan
verstaan wat vandag in SA aangaan nie, hoekom spandeer jy nie meer tyd
in 'n biblioteek en lees daaroor nie.
Re: bOER TOER [boodskap #105969 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #105948] Ma, 19 September 2005 05:45 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
kaalbaster  is tans af-lyn  kaalbaster
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Jim again - you know nothing of the word "liberal" and to adopt a black
child is not to proof you're libaral or to proof anything to anybody in
the world. Most of the people adopting black children is because of
their need of a child (no matter rase), and in my situation a promise.
The way a child (black or white) is raised will depend his feelings and
fears in the future and in this case, there will be no fears and "bad"
feelings, as we are trying our best to raise him in a friendly, all
equal environment. We, at all circumstances try and protect him from
any rassist remarks and/or situations. I will anyway pray to God that
we and my son never came across a sick minded pig like you, as you are
what you preach - the lowest work-like scum! Luckily where-ever i go,
the black people of his country is thankful to me and their words are
always the same "God will praise you" and i always answer, God already
praised me with this little boy. How funny that you wish white people
to die, what will happen and who will rejoice when you die? I will
however not wish that, but i will wish that you open your eyes and see
how the world has changed before it is to late. Because of your low
scum way of conversation and utterly and poor knowledge of the real
world and the real people living in it, i wish not to have any more
conversations with you.
Re: bOER TOER [boodskap #105970 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #105965] Ma, 19 September 2005 05:51 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
kaalbaster  is tans af-lyn  kaalbaster
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Otterkop wrote:
> Is ek het 'n probleem met blankes wat klein swartetjies aanneem.
> Ek wonder net wat die regte moteif is. Soos ek hulle in Menlyn sien
> rondbegeeg gaan dit oor "show".
>
> Vertel wat was jou motief

Daar hoef nie 'n motief te wees nie! In die geval was daar geen motief
nie, behalwe dat ek 'n belofte gemaak het (lees my antwoord aan
etterkop). Ek glo ook nie dat enige mens 'n kind sal aanneem vir die
show nie - dit is meestal mense wat 'n behoefte aan 'n kind het wat
hulle nie self kan kry nie. Ek het kinders van my eie, maar het ek
hierdie baba op 2dae gevat in omstandighede waar hy sekerlik sou
gesterf het. Ek het later so lief vir hom geword dat ek nie kon of wou
toelaat dat hy na 'n weeshuis gaan nie. Ek het hom aangeneem en is tot
vandag toe nie een oomblik spyt nie. Hierdie klein seuntjie (hy is nou
al 2 jaar oud), het ons almal se lewens kom verander - ten goede!
Bewys dit aan jou dat daar geen motief hoef te wees nie??
>
>
>
> "friend" wrote in message
> news:1126846965.972735.149890@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com.. .
> Etterkop, ek wonder vandag hoe oud jy is - ek raai dat jy nog eintlik
> jonk is. Almal van ons is realiste wat
> sien wat ons wil sien. En ja, die wind kan nie die verlede wegwaai
> nie, maar dit help nie om te teer op die
> verlede nie - die maak 'n mens negatief. Miskien moet jy net een dag
> opstaan en besluit dat jy almal
> vandag in die oë gaan kyk, boer of nie boer nie. Die boere maak so.
> Ek is dan sekerlik een van die boere
> wat nie in Orania wil gaan bly nie (verseker). Weet jy wat, ek het 'n
> klein ou swart baba seuntjie aangeneem,
> wat ek net so lief as my eie kinders het. En ek is 'n boer!!
>
> Groetnis
Re: bOER TOER [boodskap #105977 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #105970] Ma, 19 September 2005 07:17 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
Otterkop  is tans af-lyn  Otterkop
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Eks nog nie oortuig nie want jy verwys
"friend" wrote in message

black people of his country is thankful to me
news:1127109075.668621.36120@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

wonder maar net

Otterkop wrote:
> Is ek het 'n probleem met blankes wat klein swartetjies aanneem.
> Ek wonder net wat die regte moteif is. Soos ek hulle in Menlyn sien
> rondbegeeg gaan dit oor "show".
>
> Vertel wat was jou motief

Daar hoef nie 'n motief te wees nie! In die geval was daar geen motief
nie, behalwe dat ek 'n belofte gemaak het (lees my antwoord aan
etterkop). Ek glo ook nie dat enige mens 'n kind sal aanneem vir die
show nie - dit is meestal mense wat 'n behoefte aan 'n kind het wat
hulle nie self kan kry nie. Ek het kinders van my eie, maar het ek
hierdie baba op 2dae gevat in omstandighede waar hy sekerlik sou
gesterf het. Ek het later so lief vir hom geword dat ek nie kon of wou
toelaat dat hy na 'n weeshuis gaan nie. Ek het hom aangeneem en is tot
vandag toe nie een oomblik spyt nie. Hierdie klein seuntjie (hy is nou
al 2 jaar oud), het ons almal se lewens kom verander - ten goede!
Bewys dit aan jou dat daar geen motief hoef te wees nie??
>
>
>
> "friend" wrote in message
> news:1126846965.972735.149890@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com.. .
> Etterkop, ek wonder vandag hoe oud jy is - ek raai dat jy nog eintlik
> jonk is. Almal van ons is realiste wat
> sien wat ons wil sien. En ja, die wind kan nie die verlede wegwaai
> nie, maar dit help nie om te teer op die
> verlede nie - die maak 'n mens negatief. Miskien moet jy net een dag
> opstaan en besluit dat jy almal
> vandag in die oë gaan kyk, boer of nie boer nie. Die boere maak so.
> Ek is dan sekerlik een van die boere
> wat nie in Orania wil gaan bly nie (verseker). Weet jy wat, ek het 'n
> klein ou swart baba seuntjie aangeneem,
> wat ek net so lief as my eie kinders het. En ek is 'n boer!!
>
> Groetnis
Re: bOER TOER [boodskap #105980 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #105969] Ma, 19 September 2005 21:00 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
Jim Again  is tans af-lyn  Jim Again
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joma Ape-friend

Why are you suddenly so conveniently ignorant about the
well-known term "liberal", you fucking white bigot?!

Should I remind you how you liberals think and what you are?

I think I will.

It is liberals ("linkses") like you who believe in the "Freedom,
Equality and Brotherhood" (Freemasonry) crap, that directly
cause (and force) other whites to integrate with the other
primitive native races, only resulting in the degradation and
the annihilation of the white civilizations and/or communities.

You liberals ALWAYS insist on the bullshit of the so-called
"Equality" of all races! You are ever so eager to engage in
race-mixing, and you promote such liberal concepts with
even greater vigor! That is exactly WHY you and your filthy
type crawl about for any excuse to foster a native!

Go shove your "Equality" and "Brotherhood" up where it
feels most uncomfortable for you!

Not withstanding the fact that there are over 35 Million of
your beloved ape friends in SA, it seems that liberals like
you feel that the amount of 35 Million primitives, is simply
NOT ENOUGH! Your loathsome liberal soul probably will
not rest until the day you have helped your ape-friends
multiply to 80 Million-plus, will you?! You just simply
enjoy and savour the thought of helping and promoting
the natives, don't you?!

Meanwhile it is whites (including our matriculants) who
already have almost zero chance becoming part of the
marketplace! - And yet YOU LIBERALS still want to
help, feed, care, love, support and protect your beloved
black fellows, don't you?! Whites already have such a
slim chance of survival, but YOU liberals would still
continually like to increase the odds against us,
wouldn't you?!

You liberals thus openly help and support the natives
at the dear cost of whites, due to your sick motto of
"Equality"! You are traitors!

No wonder you bathe in the praises of your beloved
black fellow sub-human beings! So typical!

You certainly don't have to educate us on how you
freemasons, liberals and humanists have helped this
world to change from bad to worse! We can clearly
see the results of your doing!

These are a few of the reasons why you liberals should
be eliminated by your own beloved black friends!

Luckily we see liberals like you die each day at the very
hands of the ones you have helped (or are helping)!

This is, and will be your well-deserved punishment from
above! Don't even think of calling yourselves biblical-
correct or anything similar! You are way off!

You are cursed and disgusting traitors!

Remember these words when you observe the next
white liberal victim!

You are vile white scum!

Your special sweet day in Africa is reserved for you,
and it is Guaranteed to Arrive!
Re: bOER TOER [boodskap #105985 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #105980] Di, 20 September 2005 08:26 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
kaalbaster  is tans af-lyn  kaalbaster
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Jim Again... wrote:
> joma Ape-friend
>
> Why are you suddenly so conveniently ignorant about the
> well-known term "liberal", you fucking white bigot?!

I suggest to prove you're parents good intentions to bring you up as a
decent human being, not to insult anybody, without the proper knowledge
and or background and call them "fucking white bigots".
This actually proofs your'e intelectual standards!

I'm not ignorant or conveniently ignorant about the term liberalism,
and i strongly object to it, as i'm not liberal!
>
> Should I remind you how you liberals think and what you are?

There is such a thing as freedom of speech, so go ahead!!

>
> I think I will.
>
> It is liberals ("linkses") like you who believe in the "Freedom,
> Equality and Brotherhood" (Freemasonry) crap, that directly
> cause (and force) other whites to integrate with the other
> primitive native races, only resulting in the degradation and
> the annihilation of the white civilizations and/or communities.

I do not believe in Freedom, Equality and Brotherhood, as you stated
and personally do not wish to integrate with other primitive native
races. I do believe white is white and black is black, but if i
receive respect from a "native", as you call them, i will treat them
with respect back. If you do adopt or help a black person, that doesnt
mean you integrate with them and you do not necessarily degrade
yourself in such a process. It is a benefit to all of us to upgrade
them, gave them the opportunity to upgrade, to study and to develop,
mainly to buildt a better nation. Besides, it is not us individuals
who made the choices, it's the system of which you and i are not in any
position to change or to fight. It is a much better choice to rather
live in peace together than fight each other.

>
> You liberals ALWAYS insist on the bullshit of the so-called
> "Equality" of all races! You are ever so eager to engage in
> race-mixing, and you promote such liberal concepts with
> even greater vigor! That is exactly WHY you and your filthy
> type crawl about for any excuse to foster a native!

I am personally totally against race-mixing and will freak out if my
daughter (13) came home with a black boyfriend, but i can assure you
that i have the full intention to educate and learn my black son when
he's older that there is a difference and therefore i will encourage
him to have a black girlfriend.
>
> Go shove your "Equality" and "Brotherhood" up where it
> feels most uncomfortable for you!
>
> Not withstanding the fact that there are over 35 Million of
> your beloved ape friends in SA, it seems that liberals like
> you feel that the amount of 35 Million primitives, is simply
> NOT ENOUGH! Your loathsome liberal soul probably will
> not rest until the day you have helped your ape-friends
> multiply to 80 Million-plus, will you?! You just simply
> enjoy and savour the thought of helping and promoting
> the natives, don't you?!

Yes, there is absolutely nothing wrong in educating and promoting the
natives, so is there absolutely nothing wrong in educating and
promoting the low class afrikaners - all to become better people. Why
should anybody be witheld from education and better standards!!
Education to the natives also mean better protection to avoid them
multiply to 80 million-plus!! This is just a minor part of their
education!
>
> Meanwhile it is whites (including our matriculants) who
> already have almost zero chance becoming part of the
> marketplace! - And yet YOU LIBERALS still want to
> help, feed, care, love, support and protect your beloved
> black fellows, don't you?! Whites already have such a
> slim chance of survival, but YOU liberals would still
> continually like to increase the odds against us,
> wouldn't you?!

I am also worried about our matriculants, and all of our south africans
concerning the labour crisis in SA, but that is the system. I was
actually shocked to see the statistics of the students attending
universities in SA - black students are the majority - where is the
white students? They don't want to go to university because there is
blacks - why this attitude, as they only harm themselves and the blacks
who want to study have no problem studying with whites. This circly
caused that more and more blacks get their education and obtain top
positions as they are better qualified as the white folk. We cut our
own throats!!

>
> You liberals thus openly help and support the natives
> at the dear cost of whites, due to your sick motto of
> "Equality"! You are traitors!

No, the fact that you help and support natives don't make you a traitor
- it help to make a better country to live in in peace and harmony.

>
> No wonder you bathe in the praises of your beloved
> black fellow sub-human beings! So typical!
>
> You certainly don't have to educate us on how you
> freemasons, liberals and humanists have helped this
> world to change from bad to worse! We can clearly
> see the results of your doing!

My doings will eventually proof a far better little boy with education
and a solid background, not living in a squattercamp, don't have to
steal and murder and don't have to live with so much hate in is heart,
which again will make him a happy person.

>
> These are a few of the reasons why you liberals should
> be eliminated by your own beloved black friends!
>
> Luckily we see liberals like you die each day at the very
> hands of the ones you have helped (or are helping)!

No, the people who will die at the end of the day will be the ones who
cannot accept the fact that the natives are human beings, with equal
rights to live and to be educated and are willing to learn and change
for a better country. You are entitled to better education and a
better life, so am i, so is my little boy and so are all living in SA>

>
> This is, and will be your well-deserved punishment from
> above! Don't even think of calling yourselves biblical-
> correct or anything similar! You are way off!

You are the person who cannot call himself biblical correct, unless you
want to read the bible to suit yourself.
>
> You are cursed and disgusting traitors!
>
> Remember these words when you observe the next
> white liberal victim!
>
> You are vile white scum!

What do you call yourself? Arn't you white with a black labourer in
your garden and a nanny looking after your'e kids and cooking your'e
meal while your'e working and your'e paying her a disgusting salary to
wash your'e dirty laundry! Only allow yourself to be educated, foul
your'e childrens minds that the blacks are disgusting creatures, not to
mix with them, etc. etc. But and most probably after 12 you're the
ones who visit the black prostitutes on the street corners.
>
> Your special sweet day in Africa is reserved for you,
> and it is Guaranteed to Arrive!

I experience everyday in Africa as a special sweet day, knowing that i
do not condem anybody and that i allow and wish everybody, black and
white to have education and upgrading and better lifes. Yes every
special sweet day is guaranteed. I wish i could say the same to you.
Re: bOER TOER [boodskap #106005 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #105927] Wo, 21 September 2005 05:34 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
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Pam Taylor wrote:
> Let me begin by saying that although I don't agree with
> everything that you have said, I believe that you have
> demonstrated a level of courage that many of your fellow
> afrikaners lack. That is what this NG should be about - an
> insightful cultural focused forum which focuses on key elements
> of the afrikaner society.
>
> I have been involved in this NG for the past 9 years and this is
> one of the few times that a member of this group has actually
> engaged the debate and offered a substantiated opposing view.
> Many of the other, largely arrogant contributors here are
> unwilling or incapable of provide a worthwhile contribution,
> instead relying on stupid one liners such as "wat dink jy van
> koeksusters" and "wat dink jy van die bulle" and those dreary
> poems by long-dead poets. This is a sad indictment of afrikaner
> culture, particulary when those involved provide their own self-
> censorship by filtering out the writings of others. You are
> clearly different, and as such, provides a very positive image
> of afrikaners. This should be the goal of the rest of the group,
> and they should draw inspiration from contributions such as
> yours.
>
> That being said, research into the complexities associated with
> black adoptions by whites has been demonstrated to cause
> conflict and is normally problematic.

I have to disagree with you, as i cannot see why there should be
conflict or be problematic - it's a way you as individual chose to live
and i, only once, on a television program heard about black people
complaining that whites adopt black children. There main concern was
only that we do not know their cultures and these children cannot be
Venda, Sotho, or whatever cultures they're would be. Very little
Afrikaaners shake their heads, but in the two years i experienced none
of any racial group criticizm. This boy was even baptised in an very
concervative Nederdutch reformed church.

> that you like the idea of adopting a black, but are opposed to
> the idea of integration.

I never looked for a black baby to adopt, it came my way and i became
so fond of him that i could not gave him up again. As to your commend
that i might be opposed to the idea of integration - in a way, yes, as
i have the choice of who'm i wish to integrade with - whether it's a
black person or a white person. You will agree with me that in each
and every community there is just those "characters" you wish not to be
associated with. I met black people for whom i have the greatest
respect and will have no problem at all to be integrated with, but on
the other hand all of them (or white people) are not the same.

That is clearly an anomaly and suggests
> that you still view blacks and whites as separate individuals,
> not to be mixed.

Black and white is separate individuals, so is cats and dogs - but -
they mix and can get along if both parties feel the same.
Different cultures also play a role, not only from the whites sides,
but the black people feel the same. Again - it's my choice whom i wish
to mix with and have no problem mixing with black people at all and
would even invite them to my house and/or having a meal with them.
BUT, my gardner, who treated me and my family with the greatest
respect, which i return, and will help him where-ever i can, i don't
have to mix with.

Where do we draw the line? People will attack you for not want to mix
with black people, for no other reason that you don't know them. They
most probably feel the same - they have their own way of living and
don't know the white people. Nobody can force two different group to
associate and to integrate if both parties don't want to.

That is strange. How are you able to mix on any
> level with that outlook - does the kid get treated differently
> to other family members?

Each and every member of the family, in the house and out the house
loved this child and in now way is he treated differently from any of
the other kids, infact i think he's spoilt more than the others.

This really does appear strange. Are
> you perhaps harbouring a deep opposition to black people, but
> prefer to not mingle with them for fear of becoming
> "contaminated" by them.

I did not expect to hear this from your, as it is actually a very
misplaced remark. I'm positive that there is some people you, and
everybody else, wish not to mingle with because they are not on the
same intelectual sfeer as you are - no matter if they are black or
white. I feel that way, that it's my human right to choose who i wish
to mingle with. And again, i have no objection to mingle with black
people who's on the same level as i am.. in fact they might even learn
me a thing or two, but i do not have to mingle with a black person
whom i cannot trust and do not feel safe with.

These are things that people will want
> to know when the kid gets a bit older.
>
> Maybe you would like to share your thoughts with the others here?
Re: bOER TOER [boodskap #106006 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #105927] Wo, 21 September 2005 05:35 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
kaalbaster  is tans af-lyn  kaalbaster
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Pam Taylor wrote:
> Let me begin by saying that although I don't agree with
> everything that you have said, I believe that you have
> demonstrated a level of courage that many of your fellow
> afrikaners lack. That is what this NG should be about - an
> insightful cultural focused forum which focuses on key elements
> of the afrikaner society.
>
> I have been involved in this NG for the past 9 years and this is
> one of the few times that a member of this group has actually
> engaged the debate and offered a substantiated opposing view.
> Many of the other, largely arrogant contributors here are
> unwilling or incapable of provide a worthwhile contribution,
> instead relying on stupid one liners such as "wat dink jy van
> koeksusters" and "wat dink jy van die bulle" and those dreary
> poems by long-dead poets. This is a sad indictment of afrikaner
> culture, particulary when those involved provide their own self-
> censorship by filtering out the writings of others. You are
> clearly different, and as such, provides a very positive image
> of afrikaners. This should be the goal of the rest of the group,
> and they should draw inspiration from contributions such as
> yours.
>
> That being said, research into the complexities associated with
> black adoptions by whites has been demonstrated to cause
> conflict and is normally problematic.

I have to disagree with you, as i cannot see why there should be
conflict or be problematic - it's a way you as individual chose to live
and i, only once, on a television program heard about black people
complaining that whites adopt black children. There main concern was
only that we do not know their cultures and these children cannot be
Venda, Sotho, or whatever cultures they're would be. Very little
Afrikaaners shake their heads, but in the two years i experienced none
of any racial group criticizm. This boy was even baptised in an very
concervative Nederdutch reformed church.

> that you like the idea of adopting a black, but are opposed to
> the idea of integration.

I never looked for a black baby to adopt, it came my way and i became
so fond of him that i could not gave him up again. As to your commend
that i might be opposed to the idea of integration - in a way, yes, as
i have the choice of who'm i wish to integrade with - whether it's a
black person or a white person. You will agree with me that in each
and every community there is just those "characters" you wish not to be
associated with. I met black people for whom i have the greatest
respect and will have no problem at all to be integrated with, but on
the other hand all of them (or white people) are not the same.

That is clearly an anomaly and suggests
> that you still view blacks and whites as separate individuals,
> not to be mixed.

Black and white is separate individuals, so is cats and dogs - but -
they mix and can get along if both parties feel the same.
Different cultures also play a role, not only from the whites sides,
but the black people feel the same. Again - it's my choice whom i wish
to mix with and have no problem mixing with black people at all and
would even invite them to my house and/or having a meal with them.
BUT, my gardner, who treated me and my family with the greatest
respect, which i return, and will help him where-ever i can, i don't
have to mix with.

Where do we draw the line? People will attack you for not want to mix
with black people, for no other reason that you don't know them. They
most probably feel the same - they have their own way of living and
don't know the white people. Nobody can force two different group to
associate and to integrate if both parties don't want to.

That is strange. How are you able to mix on any
> level with that outlook - does the kid get treated differently
> to other family members?

Each and every member of the family, in the house and out the house
loved this child and in now way is he treated differently from any of
the other kids, infact i think he's spoilt more than the others.

This really does appear strange. Are
> you perhaps harbouring a deep opposition to black people, but
> prefer to not mingle with them for fear of becoming
> "contaminated" by them.

I did not expect to hear this from your, as it is actually a very
misplaced remark. I'm positive that there is some people you, and
everybody else, wish not to mingle with because they are not on the
same intelectual sfeer as you are - no matter if they are black or
white. I feel that way, that it's my human right to choose who i wish
to mingle with. And again, i have no objection to mingle with black
people who's on the same level as i am.. in fact they might even learn
me a thing or two, but i do not have to mingle with a black person
whom i cannot trust and do not feel safe with.

These are things that people will want
> to know when the kid gets a bit older.
>
> Maybe you would like to share your thoughts with the others here?
Re: bOER TOER [boodskap #106066 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #105985] Do, 22 September 2005 09:49 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
kaalbaster  is tans af-lyn  kaalbaster
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Oops!! Jim Again - het ek die spyker op die kop geslaan? (Did i hit a
button?)
Re: bOER TOER [boodskap #106077 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #105927] Vr, 23 September 2005 05:07 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
kaalbaster  is tans af-lyn  kaalbaster
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Pam Taylor wrote:
> I think that you have demonstrated your true colours here:
>
> You believe in racial segregation - Apartheid
> You believe that blacks should be treated differently to whites -
> Apartheid
>
> That would make you a racist in many people's eyes.
>
> I rest my case.

Read again!. Your'e wrong. I specifically told you that i do not treat
blacks differently, but answer this - do you mix with the white guy or
the black guy in the rural areas of your community, where poverty is
the name of the game and where people rape children and woman and crime
is the top hobby. I guess not, but what do we call you then? If, and
i repeat, if, you read my answer you would have seen that i do mix with
blacks and i do accept them, if, as in any white or black community,
they are at the same level as myself and they want to mix with me.
Blacks also do have a right of choice as to who they want to mix with.
No system can force anybody to mix with anybody - it must came both
ways.

Apartheid is is fulthy word who people like you want to misuse to suit
your believes and the worst is that you want afrikaners to be racists
and no matter what they say - you will insist to it. Maybe you should
come and visit SA - just maybe you will change your mind.

I rest my case as well.
Re: bOER TOER [boodskap #106090 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #106066] Sa, 24 September 2005 03:15 Na vorige boodskapna volgende boodskap
Jim Again  is tans af-lyn  Jim Again
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joma-bitch Ape-friend

I think you rather bumped your liberal head very hard!

You already proved yourself to be a two-faced liberal
and a typical bigot. Your blatant contradictions prove
it beyond a reasonable doubt:

< "I'm not ignorant or conveniently ignorant about the term
liberalism, and i strongly object to it, as i'm not liberal!" >

You're not liberal, he?! - Whaaaaahaaaaahaaaa!

But you eagerly enjoy to upgrade, serve and protect your
beloved fellow sub-human beings! You even share your
house with a native, but you're not liberal! Bullshit!

You are a blatant liar! Typical liberal in denial!

< "I do not believe in Freedom, Equality and Brotherhood, as
you stated and personally do not wish to integrate with other
primitive native races." >

Really?! But you only conveniently apply your liberal principles
of Equality and Brotherhood to your beloved little ape-friend
that you keep in your house! Typical Liberal Bigot!

You do not wish to integrate with the primitive races, do you?!
What a huge, direct and typical filthy liberal liar you are!

You brought a native into your house. You treat him as if he
is part of your family (as if he is your equal and your brother).
You let him eat at your table. He shares your bath and toilet
and he shares your house with your 13 y.o. daughter!

- But offcourse you insist that you do not wish to integrate
with the primitive races! You are a bigot and a liar!
- A typical piece of disgusting white liberal scum!

You are a chancer - a huge liberal opportunist liar!

< "I do believe white is white and black is black,..." >

These words here are utterly meaningless! They mean
nothing! Try again, bitch!

< "...but if i receive respect from a "native", as you call
them, i will treat them with respect back." >

Please remain relevant to the subject!

Respect has got absolutely nothing to do with the question
of race-integration. You may have respect for a native, but
that does NOT mean you have to take him into your house
and live with him and feed him or make him part of your
family.

< "If you do adopt or help a black person, that doesnt
mean you integrate with them..." >

Really?! It seems that you wish to conveniently forget
to know the meaning of "race-integration". It means
the same thing as race-mixing. And what you are
doing in practice is exactly that - namely blatant
race-integration! You are a prime example of
a typical filthy white liberal who promotes and
practices race-integration, even in your home!



Really?! A white person ALLWAYS faces degradation
in some form when integrated with natives. You simply
have to step down and adapt to their primitive status
and lower measures of intelligence. It has been proven
plenty times over.

< "It is a benefit to all of us to upgrade them, gave them
the opportunity to upgrade, to study and to develop,
mainly to buildt a better nation." >

Yes, that is so typical coming from a filthy white liberal!
As I have said before: It is you white liberals who want
to upgrade the natives, while it is not possible to do so.

Genetics does not allow a donkey to be upgraded to a
thoroughbred race horce. But you liberals insist to try
and prove otherwise, always at the cost of innocent
whites! You will pay for that! With blood!

There is no such thing as a "Nation" of mixed races!
SA is NOT a "Nation"! It is simply a "Mixture".
It is a mixture of natives, bastards, asians and a few
whites. That's all! It boils down to a filthy pot of
brown shit with a few whitish spots here and there!

< "Besides, it is not us individuals who made the choices,
it's the system of which you and i are not in any position
to change or to fight." >

Bullshit! When it comes to race-integration on ground-
level, it IS us individuals who make the choices. No
one (not even the government) can (or did) force you
to adop a native and keep him in your house and look
after him.

And remember : It was you white liberals who forced
this communist government with their evil system onto
the rest of the white population! It was you filthy white
liberals who voted YES twice! It was you liberals who
wished this humanist and godless state of crap to come
into place with its disgusting so-called "human rights"
and a godlesss costitution to top it all!

I love you!

< "It is a much better choice to rather live in peace
together than fight each other." >

Bullshit!

Peace your fucking ass! You don't deserve peace!

Its a much better choice to have all you white liberals
whiped out by your very own beloved barbaric black
fellows in a type of cruel African-style civil war!

< "I am personally totally against race-mixing and will
freak out if my daughter (13) came home with a black
boyfriend, ..." >

You area BIGOT!

Your proud, rotten liberal lifestyle shows and proves
that you are indeed NOT against race-mixing at all!

You are a typical liberal CHANCER! You are a
filthy LIAR!

I sincerely hope that your daughter becomes HIV+
and also pregnant (at age 13) at the hands of one
of your beloved black fellow sub-human beings,
so that you hopefully have no seedline on earth!

< "...but i can assure you that i have the full intention
to educate and learn my black son when he's older
that there is a difference and therefore i will encourage
him to have a black girlfriend." >

Offcourse! You insist that you do not believe in, or
support Equality and Brotherhood, but you call your
adopted native "my black son". Ha Ha!

You are such a Fat Afrikaans Chancer Bitch! You
are such a disgrace to real white Afrikaners! You
are plain white liberal trash!

< "Yes, there is absolutely nothing wrong in educating and
promoting the natives, ..." >

Yes, coming from a typical white afrikaans liberal, - we are
indeed not surprised! You offcourse don't mind helping the
natives to multiply to 80 Million-plus! We already know this.

< "...so is there absolutely nothing wrong in educating and
promoting the low class afrikaners - all to become better
people." >

You are right: There is absolutely nothing wrong by helping
low class Afrikaners. The same goes to any class of white
Afrikaner. Why don't you first and foremost adopt a poor
white child! Why a black?!

I can tell you why: Because you are a disgusting white
afrikaans liberal bitch! I love you!

We whites should only help other whites. We do not owe
the natives any help whatsoever! We have no obligation
towards the other races, for they are not our equals or
our brothers.

The natives should be left alone to their own devices.
Let them help themselves. Let them "upgrade" them-
selves. Let them "educate" themselves. Let them feed
themselves. We should not do it!

< "Why should anybody be witheld from education
and better standards!!" >

Who said we are "witholding" the natives from any-
thing? Let them educate themselves. We don't stand
in their way! We should simply leave them alone so
that they may go ahead to educate themselves.

As simple as that!

< "Education to the natives also mean better protection
to avoid them multiply to 80 million-plus!! This is just a
minor part of their education!" >

We whites are NOT obliged to teach them anything!
Let the natives teach themselves all these nice things
you fucking liberals wish for them! Leave the natives
alone! Concentrate only on the whites for a change!

< "I am also worried about our matriculants,..." >

Don't lie you fucking white afrikaans liberal bitch!

< "...and all of our south africans..." >

Yes, you are more worried about the majority of black
south africans! Bigot!

< "...concerning the labour crisis in SA, but that is the
system." >

Correct! The system was put in place by white liberals
like you, and the labour crisis amongst whites is a direct
result of that! And to top it all: It is mainly white, liberal
big business who actively support affirmative action
which directly undermines the position of whites in
the marketplace. You are traitors! I love you!

< "I was actually shocked to see the statistics of the
students attending universities in SA - black students
are the majority - where is the white students?" >

Shocked, he?! Pleazzze! The white students do not
want to mingle (race-mixing or race-integration) with
the blacks. It is a normal and natural phenomena.
- Except offcourse to you bunch of fucking liberals!

< "They don't want to go to university because there
is blacks - why this attitude,..." >

There is absolutely nothing wrong with these white's
attitude! Luckily there are still a few whites with high
standards and good morals in South Africa, who
recognize that race-mixing and integration is wrong.

As we already know - you and your type do not
care about race-integration at any level - even
within the boundries of your home and family!

< "...as they only harm themselves and the blacks
who want to study have no problem studying with
whites." >

No, they do not harm themselves! They simply are
upholding their high standards and morals. You, at
the other hand (so typical) WANT these whites
to integrate and mingle with the blacks. Well, -
I love you!

< "This circly caused that more and more blacks get
their education and obtain top positions as they are
better qualified as the white folk." >

Better qualified your fucking ass!

No, no, no! You have it all wrong again! This is Africa!
More and more blacks buy their "education" and also
are unfairly advantaged by being "pushed over" so
that it only seems that they are achieving. - All this
at the cost of hardworking whites who will not get
the job at the end of the day!

< "We cut our own throats!!" >

No, No No! - It is you liberals who are cutting the
white's throats! I love you!

< "No, the fact that you help and support natives
don't make you a traitor - it help to make a better
country to live in in peace and harmony." >

Peace and harmony your fucking ass!

You liberals only provide "a better country" to your
beloved black fellows at the cost of poor whites!
You white liberals are traitors! You will pay!

< "My doings will eventually proof a far better
little boy with education and a solid background,
not living in a squattercamp, don't have to steal
and murder and don't have to live with so much
hate in is heart, which again will make him a
happy person." >

Yes, why are we NOT surprised that you feel this
way towards your little black brother, ... sorry, I
mean your "son"?! I love you, liberal!

< "No, the people who will die at the end of the
day will be the ones who cannot accept the fact
that the natives are human beings,..." >

"Human beings" your fucking liberal ass! They are
sub-human! And if they are "human" in your liberal
eyes, then you have NO other choice than to call
them your "Brothers" and your "Equals"!

I love you and Die you liberal Bigot!

< "...with equal rights..." >

Your love of "Equality" shines through!

Bigot! Liar!

< "...to live and to be educated and are willing to
learn and change for a better country. You are
entitled to better education and a better life, so
am i, so is my little boy and so are all living in
SA." >

I know I am. You are not! You deserve to die
an extremely painful death, you filthy afrikaans
liberal bitch! I love you!

Your days are numbered and you have little time
left!

Piss Off!
Re: bOER TOER [boodskap #106126 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #105927] Di, 27 September 2005 05:49 Na vorige boodskap
kaalbaster  is tans af-lyn  kaalbaster
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Jim Again... wrote:
> Ha Ha joma naked bitch ...
>
> Or rather: jo-ma -is 'n naked bitch.

Unfortunately not, you're the naked piece of caravan trash,
with no education besides your fulthy and sick mind.
>
> No, it rather seems that "I love you, liar, bitch,
> bigot and liberal" are the only words you could
> read and understand. Ha Ha Ha!

I had to look these word up in a dictionary, but could only find this
dictionary in the native's library!
>
> Thus my attitude (and language) towards you
> was very suitable and applicable taking into
> account that you are indeed a disgusting two-
> faced white afrikaans liberal bitch!

You now what a "bitch" is? It's a dog on heat and i guess
that you are able to take advantage of a bitch on heat>
>
> It is evident that I have struck a nerve there,
> ha ha!

Whow, no, you don't bother or struck any nerve's at all,
in fact i'm looking forward every morning to read all your
crap and play with you!
>
> Indeed ...
>
> "Lekker vir my!"
>
> PS:
>
> About death wishes: Did you read Beeld today?
>
> Front page:
>
> Nice about that liberal American student who
> came to SA to help ("Upgrade") and "Evangelize"
> your beloved black sub-human beings ...
>
> He was brutally murdered by your "einste" black
> fellows!
>
> Haaaaa haaaaa haaaaa haaaa haaaa haaaaa!
>
> I told you so!
>
> Let's eagerly anticipate the next similar death
> of a liberal with excitement!

No, we don't get the "beeld" here, but i'm curious as if you have
children? Hopefully this will not ever happen to one of your children.
As i said before, everybody is entitled to their own believes and
unfortunately most of the Americans believe that the black people here
in SA are oppressed. It is actually a shame that black people killed
her. That's also the reason why i said that, you get black people and
black people, the same as in the white community. Some blacks want to
be educated but some of them will ever keep the name "kaffir".

I, last night, send back your spell to yourself, in regards of y our
wish that my daughter being raped by a native and get HIV infected -
that's the reason i asked if you got a daughter.

The same with the death wish - i've send it back to you! If you don't
have a daughter it will most probably caught up with a relatives
daughter who is very close to you.

I think anyway we should not continue this "game" - as it became very
personal and as i said, i can send all negativity back to you, which i
don't like at all.

Cheers!!
>
> Bye bye
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