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| Hello, Africa! Boer Holocaust [boodskap #110426] |
Wo, 31 Mei 2006 15:38  |
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Tonight, a history lesson van Die BoereVolk! Tant Minnie Pretorius,
wife of Dr. Lets Pretorius, speaks about the genocide of 24,000 women
and children by the hands of the British in Die Anglo-BoereWar. The
concentration camps and the horror inflicted upon them. Tant Minnie is
a descendant of TrekkBoeres who crossed the Vaal river in the land of
Die TransVaal!
Tant Minnie then speaks of her recently being accosted by a Bantu
security guard while on her way to trial.
Also, Judge Ronald calls in to speak with John about South Africa and
the Boervolk.
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| Re: Hello, Africa! Boer Holocaust [boodskap #110429 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #110426] |
Do, 01 Junie 2006 05:39  |
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Hi
I listened this morning on RSG to an interview with Dr. Lets Pretorius. I
must say that his story about the Boereolk is very convincing.
I have only one question for Dr Pretorius and his followers:
Are you willing to accept that the Boerevolk
- never was a blanke volk only
- that they were / are of mixed decent!
- that there was / is native black people who associated / associates with
the Boerevolk, speak Afrikaans, have Afrikaans names and surnames, have
accepted the Christian faith?
and are you willing to accept them as members of the Boerevolk and share
your volkstaat with them?
Torreke
"NewsGuy" wrote in message
news:1149089928.399789.154480@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Tonight, a history lesson van Die BoereVolk! Tant Minnie Pretorius,
> wife of Dr. Lets Pretorius, speaks about the genocide of 24,000 women
> and children by the hands of the British in Die Anglo-BoereWar. The
> concentration camps and the horror inflicted upon them. Tant Minnie is
> a descendant of TrekkBoeres who crossed the Vaal river in the land of
> Die TransVaal!
>
> Tant Minnie then speaks of her recently being accosted by a Bantu
> security guard while on her way to trial.
>
> Also, Judge Ronald calls in to speak with John about South Africa and
> the Boervolk.
>
>
> Download Podcast Here:
> http://therightperspectivepodcastblog.blogspot.com/2006/05/h ello-africa-boer-holocaust.html
>
>
> The Right Perspective - Heard LIVE every Friday 10pm EST over shortwave
> WWCR 3.215 Mhz and the Internet at www.therightperspective.com
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| Re: Hello, Africa! Boer Holocaust [boodskap #110431 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #110426] |
Do, 01 Junie 2006 11:31 |
Torreke
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Hi
I listened this morning on RSG to an interview with Dr. Lets Pretorius. I
must say that his story about the Boereolk is very convincing.
I have only one question for Dr Pretorius and his followers:
Are you willing to accept that the Boerevolk
- never was a blanke volk only
- that they were / are of mixed decent!
- that there was / is native black people who associated / associates with
the Boerevolk, speak Afrikaans, have Afrikaans names and surnames, have
accepted the Christian faith?
and are you willing to accept them as members of the Boerevolk and share
your volkstaat with them?
Torreke
"NewsGuy" wrote in message
news:1149089928.399789.154480@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Tonight, a history lesson van Die BoereVolk! Tant Minnie Pretorius,
> wife of Dr. Lets Pretorius, speaks about the genocide of 24,000 women
> and children by the hands of the British in Die Anglo-BoereWar. The
> concentration camps and the horror inflicted upon them. Tant Minnie is
> a descendant of TrekkBoeres who crossed the Vaal river in the land of
> Die TransVaal!
>
> Tant Minnie then speaks of her recently being accosted by a Bantu
> security guard while on her way to trial.
>
> Also, Judge Ronald calls in to speak with John about South Africa and
> the Boervolk.
>
>
> Download Podcast Here:
> http://therightperspectivepodcastblog.blogspot.com/2006/05/h ello-africa-boer-holocaust.html
>
>
> The Right Perspective - Heard LIVE every Friday 10pm EST over shortwave
> WWCR 3.215 Mhz and the Internet at www.therightperspective.com
>
>
> Subscribe to RSS Feed:
> http://feeds.feedburner.com/TheRightPerspectivePodcastBlog
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| Re: Hello, Africa! Boer Holocaust [boodskap #110432 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #110431] |
Do, 01 Junie 2006 12:28 |
Torreke
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>> wife of Dr. Lets Pretorius, speaks about the genocide of 24,000 women
>> and children by the hands of the British in Die Anglo-BoereWar.
I almost forgot.
Are Dr Pretorius and his followers willing to also honour the memory of the
black people (My information is about the same number as the white woman and
children) that died in the British concentration camps because of their
association with the so called Boere? Are you willing to accept their
decendents as Boere?
In the Pietersburg district live a clan of black people who regard
themselves members of the Boerevolk - at least in 1994 they still did. They
speak Afrikaans, sing the old ZAR anthem "Kent gij dat volk...", display the
Boere memorabilia (Kruger, De Wet, De La Rey) on their walls, etc. Are you
willing to accept them as members of the Boerevolk?
In Ovambo live the Van der Merwe families. They are black! They are the
descendents of two brothers, Oorlog and Slagveld van der Merwe who were
originally left behind in Angola by the Boere families whose surname,
culture and religion the had accepted, and only moved to the then
South-West-Africa after the Union of South Africa took over the
administration. Are you willing to accept them as members of the Boerevolk?
Torreke
"Torreke" skryf in boodskap news:e5miaf$if8$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
> Hi
>
> I listened this morning on RSG to an interview with Dr. Lets Pretorius. I
> must say that his story about the Boereolk is very convincing.
>
> I have only one question for Dr Pretorius and his followers:
> Are you willing to accept that the Boerevolk
> - never was a blanke volk only
> - that they were / are of mixed decent!
> - that there was / is native black people who associated / associates with
> the Boerevolk, speak Afrikaans, have Afrikaans names and surnames, have
> accepted the Christian faith?
> and are you willing to accept them as members of the Boerevolk and share
> your volkstaat with them?
>
> Torreke
>
>
> "NewsGuy" wrote in message
> news:1149089928.399789.154480@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> Tonight, a history lesson van Die BoereVolk! Tant Minnie Pretorius,
>> wife of Dr. Lets Pretorius, speaks about the genocide of 24,000 women
>> and children by the hands of the British in Die Anglo-BoereWar. The
>> concentration camps and the horror inflicted upon them. Tant Minnie is
>> a descendant of TrekkBoeres who crossed the Vaal river in the land of
>> Die TransVaal!
>> Tant Minnie then speaks of her recently being accosted by a Bantu
>> security guard while on her way to trial.
>> Also, Judge Ronald calls in to speak with John about South Africa and
>> the Boervolk.
>> Download Podcast Here:
>> http://therightperspectivepodcastblog.blogspot.com/2006/05/h ello-africa-boer-holocaust.html
>> The Right Perspective - Heard LIVE every Friday 10pm EST over shortwave
>> WWCR 3.215 Mhz and the Internet at www.therightperspective.com
>> Subscribe to RSS Feed:
>> http://feeds.feedburner.com/TheRightPerspectivePodcastBlog
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| Re: Hello, Africa! Boer Holocaust [boodskap #110433 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #110432] |
Vr, 02 Junie 2006 09:41 |
mon[1]
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Torreke ,zonder de blanke zat je nog op een tamtam te kloppen
"Torreke" skryf in boodskap news:e5mlms$s5b$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
>>> wife of Dr. Lets Pretorius, speaks about the genocide of 24,000 women
>>> and children by the hands of the British in Die Anglo-BoereWar.
>
> I almost forgot.
>
> Are Dr Pretorius and his followers willing to also honour the memory of
> the black people (My information is about the same number as the white
> woman and children) that died in the British concentration camps because
> of their association with the so called Boere? Are you willing to accept
> their decendents as Boere?
>
> In the Pietersburg district live a clan of black people who regard
> themselves members of the Boerevolk - at least in 1994 they still did.
> They speak Afrikaans, sing the old ZAR anthem "Kent gij dat volk...",
> display the Boere memorabilia (Kruger, De Wet, De La Rey) on their walls,
> etc. Are you willing to accept them as members of the Boerevolk?
>
> In Ovambo live the Van der Merwe families. They are black! They are the
> descendents of two brothers, Oorlog and Slagveld van der Merwe who were
> originally left behind in Angola by the Boere families whose surname,
> culture and religion the had accepted, and only moved to the then
> South-West-Africa after the Union of South Africa took over the
> administration. Are you willing to accept them as members of the
> Boerevolk?
>
> Torreke
>
> "Torreke" wrote in message
> news:e5miaf$if8$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
>> Hi
>> I listened this morning on RSG to an interview with Dr. Lets Pretorius.
>> I
>> must say that his story about the Boereolk is very convincing.
>> I have only one question for Dr Pretorius and his followers:
>> Are you willing to accept that the Boerevolk
>> - never was a blanke volk only
>> - that they were / are of mixed decent!
>> - that there was / is native black people who associated / associates
>> with
>> the Boerevolk, speak Afrikaans, have Afrikaans names and surnames, have
>> accepted the Christian faith?
>> and are you willing to accept them as members of the Boerevolk and share
>> your volkstaat with them?
>> Torreke
>> "NewsGuy" wrote in message
>> news:1149089928.399789.154480@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>> Tonight, a history lesson van Die BoereVolk! Tant Minnie Pretorius,
>>> wife of Dr. Lets Pretorius, speaks about the genocide of 24,000 women
>>> and children by the hands of the British in Die Anglo-BoereWar. The
>>> concentration camps and the horror inflicted upon them. Tant Minnie is
>>> a descendant of TrekkBoeres who crossed the Vaal river in the land of
>>> Die TransVaal!
>
>>> Tant Minnie then speaks of her recently being accosted by a Bantu
>>> security guard while on her way to trial.
>
>>> Also, Judge Ronald calls in to speak with John about South Africa and
>>> the Boervolk.
>
>
>>> Download Podcast Here:
>>> http://therightperspectivepodcastblog.blogspot.com/2006/05/h ello-africa-boer-holocaust.html
>
>
>>> The Right Perspective - Heard LIVE every Friday 10pm EST over shortwave
>>> WWCR 3.215 Mhz and the Internet at www.therightperspective.com
>
>
>>> Subscribe to RSS Feed:
>>> http://feeds.feedburner.com/TheRightPerspectivePodcastBlog
>
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| Re: Hello, Africa! Boer Holocaust [boodskap #110434 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #110433] |
Vr, 02 Junie 2006 10:07 |
Torreke
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Jy vermy die vraag.
"mon" skryf in boodskap news:jJTfg.460563$9X6.12060716@phobos.telenet-ops.be...
> Torreke ,zonder de blanke zat je nog op een tamtam te kloppen
>
> "Torreke" schreef in bericht
> news:e5mlms$s5b$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
>>>> wife of Dr. Lets Pretorius, speaks about the genocide of 24,000 women
>>>> and children by the hands of the British in Die Anglo-BoereWar.
>> I almost forgot.
>> Are Dr Pretorius and his followers willing to also honour the memory of
>> the black people (My information is about the same number as the white
>> woman and children) that died in the British concentration camps because
>> of their association with the so called Boere? Are you willing to accept
>> their decendents as Boere?
>> In the Pietersburg district live a clan of black people who regard
>> themselves members of the Boerevolk - at least in 1994 they still did.
>> They speak Afrikaans, sing the old ZAR anthem "Kent gij dat volk...",
>> display the Boere memorabilia (Kruger, De Wet, De La Rey) on their walls,
>> etc. Are you willing to accept them as members of the Boerevolk?
>> In Ovambo live the Van der Merwe families. They are black! They are the
>> descendents of two brothers, Oorlog and Slagveld van der Merwe who were
>> originally left behind in Angola by the Boere families whose surname,
>> culture and religion the had accepted, and only moved to the then
>> South-West-Africa after the Union of South Africa took over the
>> administration. Are you willing to accept them as members of the
>> Boerevolk?
>> Torreke
>> "Torreke" wrote in message
>> news:e5miaf$if8$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
>>> Hi
>
>>> I listened this morning on RSG to an interview with Dr. Lets Pretorius.
>>> I
>>> must say that his story about the Boereolk is very convincing.
>
>>> I have only one question for Dr Pretorius and his followers:
>>> Are you willing to accept that the Boerevolk
>>> - never was a blanke volk only
>>> - that they were / are of mixed decent!
>>> - that there was / is native black people who associated / associates
>>> with
>>> the Boerevolk, speak Afrikaans, have Afrikaans names and surnames, have
>>> accepted the Christian faith?
>>> and are you willing to accept them as members of the Boerevolk and share
>>> your volkstaat with them?
>
>>> Torreke
>
>
>>> "NewsGuy" wrote in message
>>> news:1149089928.399789.154480@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Tonight, a history lesson van Die BoereVolk! Tant Minnie Pretorius,
>>>> wife of Dr. Lets Pretorius, speaks about the genocide of 24,000 women
>>>> and children by the hands of the British in Die Anglo-BoereWar. The
>>>> concentration camps and the horror inflicted upon them. Tant Minnie is
>>>> a descendant of TrekkBoeres who crossed the Vaal river in the land of
>>>> Die TransVaal!
>>
>>>> Tant Minnie then speaks of her recently being accosted by a Bantu
>>>> security guard while on her way to trial.
>>
>>>> Also, Judge Ronald calls in to speak with John about South Africa and
>>>> the Boervolk.
>>
>>
>>>> Download Podcast Here:
>>>> http://therightperspectivepodcastblog.blogspot.com/2006/05/h ello-africa-boer-holocaust.html
>>
>>
>>>> The Right Perspective - Heard LIVE every Friday 10pm EST over shortwave
>>>> WWCR 3.215 Mhz and the Internet at www.therightperspective.com
>>
>>
>>>> Subscribe to RSS Feed:
>>>> http://feeds.feedburner.com/TheRightPerspectivePodcastBlog
>>
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| Re: Hello, Africa! Boer Holocaust [boodskap #110435 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #110434] |
Vr, 02 Junie 2006 14:34 |
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Now that's a weak one , if I ever have heard one.
The Boers are white settlers , distinct form the Afrikaans in their
heritage
We were the ones with the guts to move into undiscovered territory and
tame it , the Afrikaans were on the other hand , willing to stay under
British rule , unlike us.
Yes if you are a boer , you will speak Afrikaans , just like a American
speaks English but were are distinct in our heritage of being frontiers
men.
The Cape Afrikaners can not claim to be boers neither can the coloreds
or anybody ells for that matter , except maybe a few Texan's from the
US , but they will miss the target on account of the language.
If you claim we are of mixed race , so be it , but we are not , you are
just trying to confuse the issue. Maybe you are of mixed race and want
to ad yourself to our group.
Sorry that will not suffice, maybe you just hate us , sorry we do not
care.
I know that the absolute best efforts have been made to try to
emasculate us , sorry we are still here and will be here for a long
time to come .
So , try to deny us the sun , we will not be bothered , we will
survive.
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| Re: Hello, Africa! Boer Holocaust [boodskap #110436 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #110435] |
Vr, 02 Junie 2006 22:31 |
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julle bliksemse probleem is dat julle alles wil hê terwyl die res van die
bevolking niks mag kry nie.
"fire_" wrote in message
news:1149258892.856661.238200@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com.. .
> Now that's a weak one , if I ever have heard one.
>
> The Boers are white settlers , distinct form the Afrikaans in their
> heritage
> We were the ones with the guts to move into undiscovered territory and
> tame it , the Afrikaans were on the other hand , willing to stay under
> British rule , unlike us.
> Yes if you are a boer , you will speak Afrikaans , just like a American
> speaks English but were are distinct in our heritage of being frontiers
> men.
> The Cape Afrikaners can not claim to be boers neither can the coloreds
> or anybody ells for that matter , except maybe a few Texan's from the
> US , but they will miss the target on account of the language.
>
> If you claim we are of mixed race , so be it , but we are not , you are
> just trying to confuse the issue. Maybe you are of mixed race and want
> to ad yourself to our group.
> Sorry that will not suffice, maybe you just hate us , sorry we do not
> care.
>
> I know that the absolute best efforts have been made to try to
> emasculate us , sorry we are still here and will be here for a long
> time to come .
>
> So , try to deny us the sun , we will not be bothered , we will
> survive.
>
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| Re: Hello, Africa! Boer Holocaust [boodskap #110437 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #110426] |
So, 04 Junie 2006 05:59 |
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En hoeveel van daardie 24 000 vroue en kinders was nie blank nie?
Vir wat wil iemand vir mense vertel van iets wat 105 jaar gelede vertel asof
dit vars nuus is?
Is die Tannie net so betjoiks soos haar man en seuns?
--
Groetnis
Annette
"NewsGuy" wrote in message
news:1149089928.399789.154480@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Tonight, a history lesson van Die BoereVolk! Tant Minnie Pretorius,
> wife of Dr. Lets Pretorius, speaks about the genocide of 24,000 women
> and children by the hands of the British in Die Anglo-BoereWar. The
> concentration camps and the horror inflicted upon them. Tant Minnie is
> a descendant of TrekkBoeres who crossed the Vaal river in the land of
> Die TransVaal!
>
> Tant Minnie then speaks of her recently being accosted by a Bantu
> security guard while on her way to trial.
>
> Also, Judge Ronald calls in to speak with John about South Africa and
> the Boervolk.
>
>
> Download Podcast Here:
>
http://therightperspectivepodcastblog.blogspot.com/2006/05/h ello-africa-boer
-holocaust.html
>
>
> The Right Perspective - Heard LIVE every Friday 10pm EST over shortwave
> WWCR 3.215 Mhz and the Internet at www.therightperspective.com
>
>
> Subscribe to RSS Feed:
> http://feeds.feedburner.com/TheRightPerspectivePodcastBlog
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| Re: Hello, Africa! Boer Holocaust [boodskap #110438 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #110435] |
So, 04 Junie 2006 16:06 |
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Mooi! Daar sit jy toe jou voet in die slagyster en bewys jy toe wat ek
vermoed het. Dit gaan nie vir julle oor "volk" nie, dit gaan oor "ras".
Die Boerevolk-storie is net iets om agter te skuil en die naakte rassisme te
verbloem.
Die onderskeid tussen "Boer" en "Afrikaner" is lagwekkend.
Terloops, ek is 'n volbloed afstammeling van die Voortrekkers wat die verre
Noorde van hierdie land vir die beskawing help oopstel het. My oupa aan
vaderskant was in De La Rey se kommando! En in 1914 was hy 'n rebel! (die
enigste van sy hele kommando wat gevangeneming ontsnap het - hy het sy been
in die proses verloor) - en my pa en oupa offisiere in die Ossewabrandwag.
Julle bewys elke blanke in hierdie land 'n reuse onguns met julle rassime.
So lank as wat julle met julle rassime voortgaan so lank word blankes as
rassiste gestereotipeer. So lank as wat daar sommige boere is wat na
swartes as "k.ff.s" verwys, so lank gaan boere as onderdrukkers beskou word
en gaan dit 'n faktor in plaasaanvalle bly.
Groete
Torreke
NS. Ek dink nie ek sal jou oortuig nie. Daarvoor is julle te veel soos
perde met oogklappe aan.
"fire_" wrote in message
news:1149258892.856661.238200@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com.. .
> Now that's a weak one , if I ever have heard one.
>
> The Boers are white settlers , distinct form the Afrikaans in their
> heritage
> We were the ones with the guts to move into undiscovered territory and
> tame it , the Afrikaans were on the other hand , willing to stay under
> British rule , unlike us.
> Yes if you are a boer , you will speak Afrikaans , just like a American
> speaks English but were are distinct in our heritage of being frontiers
> men.
> The Cape Afrikaners can not claim to be boers neither can the coloreds
> or anybody ells for that matter , except maybe a few Texan's from the
> US , but they will miss the target on account of the language.
>
> If you claim we are of mixed race , so be it , but we are not , you are
> just trying to confuse the issue. Maybe you are of mixed race and want
> to ad yourself to our group.
> Sorry that will not suffice, maybe you just hate us , sorry we do not
> care.
>
> I know that the absolute best efforts have been made to try to
> emasculate us , sorry we are still here and will be here for a long
> time to come .
>
> So , try to deny us the sun , we will not be bothered , we will
> survive.
>
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| Re: Hello, Africa! Boer Holocaust [boodskap #110439 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #110435] |
So, 04 Junie 2006 16:11 |
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"fire_" wrote in message
news:1149258892.856661.238200@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com.. .
> We were the ones with the guts to move into undiscovered territory and
> tame it
Dit was en is onverbloemde kolonialisme!!! Jy spog daarmee dat ons ander
mense se grond afvgevat het!!!
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| Re: Hello, Africa! Boer Holocaust [boodskap #110440 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #110438] |
So, 04 Junie 2006 17:58 |
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Torreke wrote:
> Mooi! Daar sit jy toe jou voet in die slagyster en bewys jy toe wat ek
> vermoed het. Dit gaan nie vir julle oor "volk" nie, dit gaan oor "ras".
> Die Boerevolk-storie is net iets om agter te skuil en die naakte rassisme te
> verbloem.
>
> Die onderskeid tussen "Boer" en "Afrikaner" is lagwekkend.
>
> Terloops, ek is 'n volbloed afstammeling van die Voortrekkers wat die verre
> Noorde van hierdie land vir die beskawing help oopstel het. My oupa aan
> vaderskant was in De La Rey se kommando! En in 1914 was hy 'n rebel! (die
> enigste van sy hele kommando wat gevangeneming ontsnap het - hy het sy been
> in die proses verloor) - en my pa en oupa offisiere in die Ossewabrandwag.
>
> Julle bewys elke blanke in hierdie land 'n reuse onguns met julle rassime.
> So lank as wat julle met julle rassime voortgaan so lank word blankes as
> rassiste gestereotipeer. So lank as wat daar sommige boere is wat na
> swartes as "k.ff.s" verwys, so lank gaan boere as onderdrukkers beskou word
> en gaan dit 'n faktor in plaasaanvalle bly.
>
> Groete
>
> Torreke
>
> NS. Ek dink nie ek sal jou oortuig nie. Daarvoor is julle te veel soos
> perde met oogklappe aan.
>
> "fire_" wrote in message
> news:1149258892.856661.238200@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com.. .
>> Now that's a weak one , if I ever have heard one.
>>
>> The Boers are white settlers , distinct form the Afrikaans in their
>> heritage
>> We were the ones with the guts to move into undiscovered territory and
>> tame it , the Afrikaans were on the other hand , willing to stay under
>> British rule , unlike us.
>> Yes if you are a boer , you will speak Afrikaans , just like a American
>> speaks English but were are distinct in our heritage of being frontiers
>> men.
>> The Cape Afrikaners can not claim to be boers neither can the coloreds
>> or anybody ells for that matter , except maybe a few Texan's from the
>> US , but they will miss the target on account of the language.
>>
>> If you claim we are of mixed race , so be it , but we are not , you are
>> just trying to confuse the issue. Maybe you are of mixed race and want
>> to ad yourself to our group.
>> Sorry that will not suffice, maybe you just hate us , sorry we do not
>> care.
>>
>> I know that the absolute best efforts have been made to try to
>> emasculate us , sorry we are still here and will be here for a long
>> time to come .
>>
Jy is miskien n afrikaner , maar jy is lank nie meer n boer nie.
Jy is nou slegs n verskoning van wat jou voorgesalgte was.
As jy so gesteld is op rasisme , is jy dalk die rasis
sorry , ek geen nie om nie
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Torreke wrote:
> "fire_" wrote in message
> news:1149258892.856661.238200@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com.. .
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>> We were the ones with the guts to move into undiscovered territory and
>> tame it
>
> Dit was en is onverbloemde kolonialisme!!! Jy spog daarmee dat ons ander
> mense se grond afvgevat het!!!
Jy ken bitter min van jou eie geskiednis,die land was leeg.
Die amerikaners het die rooi huide uitgemoor Ons het nie.Die ausies
was noe veel beter nie , ons was nooit aan volkmoord skuldig nie.
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> Die onderskeid tussen "Boer" en "Afrikaner" is lagwekkend.
>
> Terloops, ek is 'n volbloed afstammeling van die Voortrekkers wat die verre
> Noorde van hierdie land vir die beskawing help oopstel het. My oupa aan
> vaderskant was in De La Rey se kommando! En in 1914 was hy 'n rebel! (die
> enigste van sy hele kommando wat gevangeneming ontsnap het - hy het sy been
> in die proses verloor) - en my pa en oupa offisiere in die Ossewabrandwag.
>
> Julle bewys elke blanke in hierdie land 'n reuse onguns met julle rassime.
> So lank as wat julle met julle rassime voortgaan so lank word blankes as
> rassiste gestereotipeer. So lank as wat daar sommige boere is wat na
> swartes as "k.ff.s" verwys, so lank gaan boere as onderdrukkers beskou word
> en gaan dit 'n faktor in plaasaanvalle bly.
>
Torrek, besef jy nie dat die soos jy ons almal se einde is nie.
Julle weier om die waarhied te aanvaar , dat julle nou julle self
gemaginaliseer het in 1994.
Dis jammer dat julle droom vir n nuwe suid afrika niks anders is as net
nog n land suid van die sahara.Julle wou nie die voor aan hand
liggende in die gesig staar nie-----dat vir elke wit rasis daar 30
swart rasiste is nie-----Dat dit onwaarskynlik is dat SA nie die pat
van Zim gaan volg nie.
Vra jouself
Hoefeel suksesvolle lande is daar suid van die Sahara?
Hoeveel lande is daar suid van die Sahara ?
dan moet jy jouself vra , waarom ?
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Francois Human wrote:
> julle bliksemse probleem is dat julle alles wil hê terwyl die res van die
> bevolking niks mag kry nie.
>
Ek , kyk so deur jou posts , jy het lykmy nog altyd n vuil bek gehad.
Nou sien ek jy het n klienkie dood met die suster tale , ie flaams en
hollands
dis nie mooi nie , ek weet jy verstaan hulle nie maar jy moet so bekie
meer tolirant wees
Nou , jou statement dat ons ales wil he ------------- snaaks dis juis
die res wat alles wat ons gebou het will he , en net soos met eskom nie
daarna kan kyk nie .
nou met hulle BEE en AA skree hulle net vir meer , en meer maar weet
nie hoe om dit te bestuur nie .
Shame , hulle kan seker maar alles kry om jou gelukkig te hou, dan dit
alles vernietig , da moet ons weer oor begin
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Ek dink nie ek gaan in 'n gesprek met jou betrokke raak nie. Jy kan nie
eens "pad" en "hoeveel" korrek spel nie, wat staan nog 'n intellegente
gesprek voer?
"fire_" wrote in message
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>
>> Die onderskeid tussen "Boer" en "Afrikaner" is lagwekkend.
>> Terloops, ek is 'n volbloed afstammeling van die Voortrekkers wat die
>> verre
>> Noorde van hierdie land vir die beskawing help oopstel het. My oupa aan
>> vaderskant was in De La Rey se kommando! En in 1914 was hy 'n rebel!
>> (die
>> enigste van sy hele kommando wat gevangeneming ontsnap het - hy het sy
>> been
>> in die proses verloor) - en my pa en oupa offisiere in die
>> Ossewabrandwag.
>> Julle bewys elke blanke in hierdie land 'n reuse onguns met julle
>> rassime.
>> So lank as wat julle met julle rassime voortgaan so lank word blankes as
>> rassiste gestereotipeer. So lank as wat daar sommige boere is wat na
>> swartes as "k.ff.s" verwys, so lank gaan boere as onderdrukkers beskou
>> word
>> en gaan dit 'n faktor in plaasaanvalle bly.
>
> Torrek, besef jy nie dat die soos jy ons almal se einde is nie.
> Julle weier om die waarhied te aanvaar , dat julle nou julle self
> gemaginaliseer het in 1994.
>
> Dis jammer dat julle droom vir n nuwe suid afrika niks anders is as net
> nog n land suid van die sahara.Julle wou nie die voor aan hand
> liggende in die gesig staar nie-----dat vir elke wit rasis daar 30
> swart rasiste is nie-----Dat dit onwaarskynlik is dat SA nie die pat
> van Zim gaan volg nie.
>
>
> Vra jouself
> Hoefeel suksesvolle lande is daar suid van die Sahara?
> Hoeveel lande is daar suid van die Sahara ?
>
> dan moet jy jouself vra , waarom ?
>
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"fire_" wrote in message
news:1149444077.760138.167680@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com.. .
>
> Torreke wrote:
>> "fire_" wrote in message
>> news:1149258892.856661.238200@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com.. .
>>> We were the ones with the guts to move into undiscovered territory and
>>> tame it
>> Dit was en is onverbloemde kolonialisme!!! Jy spog daarmee dat ons ander
>> mense se grond afvgevat het!!!
>
>
> Jy ken bitter min van jou eie geskiednis,die land was leeg.
Wensdenkery!
Waar kom al die Swartes vandaan? Uit die lug geval?
Wie het die Matebeles uit die Wes-Trasnvaal tot in Zimbabwe gedryf?
Die Slag van Bloedrivier is seker teen spoke gevoer. Piet Potgieter is
seker deur sy eie mense doodgeskiet, nie deur Makapaan se mense nie. Sy Oom
Hermanus is seker deur die winde oor die kop geslaan en sy vel lewend
afgeslag. Al die veldtogte teen Sekoekoenie was seker teen windeiers.
Geskiedenis is een van my lieflingvakke. Ek ken dit duidelik beter as jy.
> Die amerikaners het die rooi huide uitgemoor Ons het nie.Die ausies
> was noe veel beter nie , ons was nooit aan volkmoord skuldig nie.
Dit maak geen bloue duit verskil aan die feit dat ons ander mense se grond
afgevat en toe eenvoudig ons wil op hulle probeer afdwing het nie. En jy
wil dit nog steeds doen.
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Ag seunie, mr "vaaier", hoe patrioties dink jy is jy, wat nie eers behoorlik
in Afrikaans kan skryf nie?
Of skuim jy so van woede om die mond, dat jy blindelings tik, en uit pure
woede daardie stuurknoppie druk, voordat jy eers gelees het wat jy geskryf
het?
Ek het in die eerste plek gaan soek na "pat" in die HAT - niks nie. So
waarvan presies praat jy as jy woorde gebruik wat nie in Afrikaans bestaan
nie?
Tweedens vermoed ek jy wonder watter lande in Afrika Suid van die Sahara is
suksesvol ( ekonomies neem ek aan). ( jy het bietjie haastig geskryf en nie
presies gemeld wat jy van praat nie)
Laat ek dink.
Mmmmmm.
Malawi
Suid-Afrika
Aan die ander kant wonder ek of daar enige land ter wêreld is wat Zimbabwe
kan nadoen aangaande die inflasiekoers. Dit wil nogal gedoen word.
Derdens klink jou galgepraat na napraat agter ander aan. Is jy in staat om
'n oorspronklike gedagte vir ons deur te gee?
--
Groetnis
Annette
"fire_" wrote in message
news:1149455507.330845.103800@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com.. .
Francois Human wrote:
> julle bliksemse probleem is dat julle alles wil hê terwyl die res van die
> bevolking niks mag kry nie.
>
Ek , kyk so deur jou posts , jy het lykmy nog altyd n vuil bek gehad.
Nou sien ek jy het n klienkie dood met die suster tale , ie flaams en
hollands
dis nie mooi nie , ek weet jy verstaan hulle nie maar jy moet so bekie
meer tolirant wees
Nou , jou statement dat ons ales wil he ------------- snaaks dis juis
die res wat alles wat ons gebou het will he , en net soos met eskom nie
daarna kan kyk nie .
nou met hulle BEE en AA skree hulle net vir meer , en meer maar weet
nie hoe om dit te bestuur nie .
Shame , hulle kan seker maar alles kry om jou gelukkig te hou, dan dit
alles vernietig , da moet ons weer oor begin
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Annet , kom ons kyk so n biekie na Africa ,
in n nut shell ;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa
Post-colonial Africa
Today, Africa is home to over 50 independent countries, which mostly
still have the borders drawn during the era of European colonialism.
Since colonialism, African states have frequently been hampered by
instability, corruption, violence, and authoritarianism. The vast
majority of African nations are republics that operate under some form
of the presidential system of rule. Few nations in Africa have been
able to sustain democratic governments, and many have instead cycled
through a series of brutal coups and military dictatorships. A number
of Africa's post-colonial political leaders were military generals who
were poorly educated and ignorant on matters of governance. Great
instability, however, was mainly the result of marginalization of other
ethnic groups and graft under these leaders. Many politicians used the
positions of power to ignite ethnic conflicts that had been
exacerbated, or even created, by colonial rule. In many countries, the
military was perceived as being the only group that could effectively
maintain order, and it ruled many nations in Africa during the 1970s
and early 1980s. During the period from the early 1960s to the late
1980s, Africa had more than 70 coups and 13 presidential
assassinations.
Cold War conflicts between the United States and the Soviet Union, as
well as the policies of the International Monetary Fund, also played a
role in instability. When a country became independent for the first
time, it was often expected to align with one of the two superpowers.
Many countries in Northern Africa received Soviet military aid, while
many in Central and Southern Africa were supported by the United
States, France or both. The 1970s saw an escalation, as newly
independent Angola and Mozambique aligned themselves with the Soviet
Union and the West and South Africa sought to contain Soviet influence.
Border and territorial disputes have also been common, with the
European-imposed borders of many nations being widely contested through
armed conflicts.
[edit]
Politics
Failed government policies and political corruption have resulted in
many widespread famines, and significant portions of Africa remain with
distribution systems unable to disseminate enough food or water for the
population to survive. What had before colonialism been the source for
90% of the world's gold had become the poorest continent on earth, its
former riches enjoyed by those on other continents. The spread of
disease is also rampant, especially the spread of the human
immunodeficiency virus (HIV) and the associated acquired immune
deficiency syndrome (AIDS), which has become a deadly epidemic on the
continent. Despite numerous hardships, there have been some signs the
continent has hope for the future. Democratic governments seem to be
spreading, though they are not yet the majority (The National
Geographic Society claims 13 African nations can be considered truly
democratic[citation needed]). As well, many nations have recognized
basic human rights for all citizens (though in practice these are not
always recognized) and have created reasonably independent judiciaries.
There are clear signs of increased networking among African
organisations and states. In the civil war in the Democratic Republic
of the Congo (former Zaire), rather than rich, non-African countries
intervening, about half a dozen neighbouring African countries became
involved (see also Second Congo War). Since the conflict began in 1998,
the estimated death toll has reached 3.5 million.[citation needed] This
might play a role similar to that of World War II for Europe, after
which the people in the neighbouring countries decided to integrate
their societies in such a way that war between them becomes as
unthinkable as a war between, say, France and Germany would be today.
Political associations such as the African Union are also offering hope
for greater co-operation and peace between the continent's many
countries. Extensive human rights abuses still occur in several parts
of Africa, often under the oversight of the state. Most of such
violations occur for political reasons, often as a side effect of civil
war. Countries where major human rights violations have been reported
in recent times include the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Sierra
Leone, Liberia, Sudan, and Côte d'Ivoire.
[edit]
Economy
Main article: Economy of Africa
Africa is the world's poorest inhabited continent: the United Nations'
Human Development Report 2003 (of 175 countries) found that positions
151 (Gambia) to 175 (Sierra Leone) were taken up entirely by African
nations.
It has had (and in some ways is still having) a shaky and uncertain
transition from colonialism, with increases in corruption and despotism
being major contributing factors to its poor economic situation. While
rapid growth in China and now India, and moderate growth in Latin
America, has lifted millions beyond subsistence living, Africa has gone
backwards in terms of foreign trade, investment, and per capita income.
This poverty has widespread effects, including lower life expectancy,
violence, and instability -- factors intertwined with the continent's
poverty.
Major economic successes are Botswana and South Africa, which is
developed to the extent that it has its own mature stock exchange. This
is partly due to its wealth of natural resources, being the world's
leading producer of both gold and diamonds, and partly due to its
well-established legal system. South Africa also has access to
financial capital, numerous markets and skilled labor. Other African
countries are making comparable progress, such as Ghana, and some, like
Egypt, have a longer history of commercial and economic success.
Nigeria sits on one of the largest proven oil reserves in the world and
has the highest population among nations in Africa, with one of the
fastest-growing economies in the world.
> From 1995 to 2005, economic growth picked up, averaging 5% in 2005.
However some countries experienced much higher growth (10+%) in
particular, Angola, Sudan and Equatorial Guinea, all three of which
have recently begun extracting their petroleum reserves
Afrika , is maar van nature onsuksesvol, en sal soo bly in die toekoms
hied hanteer nie
Die biekie sukses , is maar tewyte aan olie wat Chevron en Shell vir
hulle pomp.
Om die waarhied te se , in die sub sahara het hulle maar nou eers leer
skryf.
ongelukik vir jou en torrek kan julle nie die waarhied hanteer nie
shame ek gee nie om nie
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Annette is reg. Jy skuil agter ander mense en het geen standpunt van jou
eie nie.
Luister, ou vuurvreter, is jy 'n Christen?
"fire_" wrote in message
news:1149503064.670940.79850@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Annet , kom ons kyk so n biekie na Africa ,
in n nut shell ;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa
Post-colonial Africa
Today, Africa is home to over 50 independent countries, which mostly
still have the borders drawn during the era of European colonialism.
Since colonialism, African states have frequently been hampered by
instability, corruption, violence, and authoritarianism. The vast
majority of African nations are republics that operate under some form
of the presidential system of rule. Few nations in Africa have been
able to sustain democratic governments, and many have instead cycled
through a series of brutal coups and military dictatorships. A number
of Africa's post-colonial political leaders were military generals who
were poorly educated and ignorant on matters of governance. Great
instability, however, was mainly the result of marginalization of other
ethnic groups and graft under these leaders. Many politicians used the
positions of power to ignite ethnic conflicts that had been
exacerbated, or even created, by colonial rule. In many countries, the
military was perceived as being the only group that could effectively
maintain order, and it ruled many nations in Africa during the 1970s
and early 1980s. During the period from the early 1960s to the late
1980s, Africa had more than 70 coups and 13 presidential
assassinations.
Cold War conflicts between the United States and the Soviet Union, as
well as the policies of the International Monetary Fund, also played a
role in instability. When a country became independent for the first
time, it was often expected to align with one of the two superpowers.
Many countries in Northern Africa received Soviet military aid, while
many in Central and Southern Africa were supported by the United
States, France or both. The 1970s saw an escalation, as newly
independent Angola and Mozambique aligned themselves with the Soviet
Union and the West and South Africa sought to contain Soviet influence.
Border and territorial disputes have also been common, with the
European-imposed borders of many nations being widely contested through
armed conflicts.
[edit]
Politics
Failed government policies and political corruption have resulted in
many widespread famines, and significant portions of Africa remain with
distribution systems unable to disseminate enough food or water for the
population to survive. What had before colonialism been the source for
90% of the world's gold had become the poorest continent on earth, its
former riches enjoyed by those on other continents. The spread of
disease is also rampant, especially the spread of the human
immunodeficiency virus (HIV) and the associated acquired immune
deficiency syndrome (AIDS), which has become a deadly epidemic on the
continent. Despite numerous hardships, there have been some signs the
continent has hope for the future. Democratic governments seem to be
spreading, though they are not yet the majority (The National
Geographic Society claims 13 African nations can be considered truly
democratic[citation needed]). As well, many nations have recognized
basic human rights for all citizens (though in practice these are not
always recognized) and have created reasonably independent judiciaries.
There are clear signs of increased networking among African
organisations and states. In the civil war in the Democratic Republic
of the Congo (former Zaire), rather than rich, non-African countries
intervening, about half a dozen neighbouring African countries became
involved (see also Second Congo War). Since the conflict began in 1998,
the estimated death toll has reached 3.5 million.[citation needed] This
might play a role similar to that of World War II for Europe, after
which the people in the neighbouring countries decided to integrate
their societies in such a way that war between them becomes as
unthinkable as a war between, say, France and Germany would be today.
Political associations such as the African Union are also offering hope
for greater co-operation and peace between the continent's many
countries. Extensive human rights abuses still occur in several parts
of Africa, often under the oversight of the state. Most of such
violations occur for political reasons, often as a side effect of civil
war. Countries where major human rights violations have been reported
in recent times include the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Sierra
Leone, Liberia, Sudan, and Côte d'Ivoire.
[edit]
Economy
Main article: Economy of Africa
Africa is the world's poorest inhabited continent: the United Nations'
Human Development Report 2003 (of 175 countries) found that positions
151 (Gambia) to 175 (Sierra Leone) were taken up entirely by African
nations.
It has had (and in some ways is still having) a shaky and uncertain
transition from colonialism, with increases in corruption and despotism
being major contributing factors to its poor economic situation. While
rapid growth in China and now India, and moderate growth in Latin
America, has lifted millions beyond subsistence living, Africa has gone
backwards in terms of foreign trade, investment, and per capita income.
This poverty has widespread effects, including lower life expectancy,
violence, and instability -- factors intertwined with the continent's
poverty.
Major economic successes are Botswana and South Africa, which is
developed to the extent that it has its own mature stock exchange. This
is partly due to its wealth of natural resources, being the world's
leading producer of both gold and diamonds, and partly due to its
well-established legal system. South Africa also has access to
financial capital, numerous markets and skilled labor. Other African
countries are making comparable progress, such as Ghana, and some, like
Egypt, have a longer history of commercial and economic success.
Nigeria sits on one of the largest proven oil reserves in the world and
has the highest population among nations in Africa, with one of the
fastest-growing economies in the world.
> From 1995 to 2005, economic growth picked up, averaging 5% in 2005.
However some countries experienced much higher growth (10+%) in
particular, Angola, Sudan and Equatorial Guinea, all three of which
have recently begun extracting their petroleum reserves
Afrika , is maar van nature onsuksesvol, en sal soo bly in die toekoms
hied hanteer nie
Die biekie sukses , is maar tewyte aan olie wat Chevron en Shell vir
hulle pomp.
Om die waarhied te se , in die sub sahara het hulle maar nou eers leer
skryf.
ongelukik vir jou en torrek kan julle nie die waarhied hanteer nie
shame ek gee nie om nie
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Annette is reg. Jy skuil agter ander mense se panties en het geen standpunt
van jou eie nie.
Luister, ou Firefox, ek lees in die Bybel "Salig is die vredemakers, want
hulle sal die aarde beërwe".
Maar ek lees niks van so 'n mooi belofte wat aan die vuurvreters gemaak word
nie, inteendeel...
Jesus het vir Petrus aangesê om sy swaard te bêre, want dié wat deur die
swaard lewe, sal deur die swaard vergaan.
Ietsie om in gedagte te hou voordat 'n mens besluit om vuur te vreet, nie
waar nie?
Torreke
"fire_" wrote in message
news:1149503064.670940.79850@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Annet , kom ons kyk so n biekie na Africa ,
in n nut shell ;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa
Post-colonial Africa
Today, Africa is home to over 50 independent countries, which mostly
still have the borders drawn during the era of European colonialism.
Since colonialism, African states have frequently been hampered by
instability, corruption, violence, and authoritarianism. The vast
majority of African nations are republics that operate under some form
of the presidential system of rule. Few nations in Africa have been
able to sustain democratic governments, and many have instead cycled
through a series of brutal coups and military dictatorships. A number
of Africa's post-colonial political leaders were military generals who
were poorly educated and ignorant on matters of governance. Great
instability, however, was mainly the result of marginalization of other
ethnic groups and graft under these leaders. Many politicians used the
positions of power to ignite ethnic conflicts that had been
exacerbated, or even created, by colonial rule. In many countries, the
military was perceived as being the only group that could effectively
maintain order, and it ruled many nations in Africa during the 1970s
and early 1980s. During the period from the early 1960s to the late
1980s, Africa had more than 70 coups and 13 presidential
assassinations.
Cold War conflicts between the United States and the Soviet Union, as
well as the policies of the International Monetary Fund, also played a
role in instability. When a country became independent for the first
time, it was often expected to align with one of the two superpowers.
Many countries in Northern Africa received Soviet military aid, while
many in Central and Southern Africa were supported by the United
States, France or both. The 1970s saw an escalation, as newly
independent Angola and Mozambique aligned themselves with the Soviet
Union and the West and South Africa sought to contain Soviet influence.
Border and territorial disputes have also been common, with the
European-imposed borders of many nations being widely contested through
armed conflicts.
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Politics
Failed government policies and political corruption have resulted in
many widespread famines, and significant portions of Africa remain with
distribution systems unable to disseminate enough food or water for the
population to survive. What had before colonialism been the source for
90% of the world's gold had become the poorest continent on earth, its
former riches enjoyed by those on other continents. The spread of
disease is also rampant, especially the spread of the human
immunodeficiency virus (HIV) and the associated acquired immune
deficiency syndrome (AIDS), which has become a deadly epidemic on the
continent. Despite numerous hardships, there have been some signs the
continent has hope for the future. Democratic governments seem to be
spreading, though they are not yet the majority (The National
Geographic Society claims 13 African nations can be considered truly
democratic[citation needed]). As well, many nations have recognized
basic human rights for all citizens (though in practice these are not
always recognized) and have created reasonably independent judiciaries.
There are clear signs of increased networking among African
organisations and states. In the civil war in the Democratic Republic
of the Congo (former Zaire), rather than rich, non-African countries
intervening, about half a dozen neighbouring African countries became
involved (see also Second Congo War). Since the conflict began in 1998,
the estimated death toll has reached 3.5 million.[citation needed] This
might play a role similar to that of World War II for Europe, after
which the people in the neighbouring countries decided to integrate
their societies in such a way that war between them becomes as
unthinkable as a war between, say, France and Germany would be today.
Political associations such as the African Union are also offering hope
for greater co-operation and peace between the continent's many
countries. Extensive human rights abuses still occur in several parts
of Africa, often under the oversight of the state. Most of such
violations occur for political reasons, often as a side effect of civil
war. Countries where major human rights violations have been reported
in recent times include the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Sierra
Leone, Liberia, Sudan, and Côte d'Ivoire.
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Economy
Main article: Economy of Africa
Africa is the world's poorest inhabited continent: the United Nations'
Human Development Report 2003 (of 175 countries) found that positions
151 (Gambia) to 175 (Sierra Leone) were taken up entirely by African
nations.
It has had (and in some ways is still having) a shaky and uncertain
transition from colonialism, with increases in corruption and despotism
being major contributing factors to its poor economic situation. While
rapid growth in China and now India, and moderate growth in Latin
America, has lifted millions beyond subsistence living, Africa has gone
backwards in terms of foreign trade, investment, and per capita income.
This poverty has widespread effects, including lower life expectancy,
violence, and instability -- factors intertwined with the continent's
poverty.
Major economic successes are Botswana and South Africa, which is
developed to the extent that it has its own mature stock exchange. This
is partly due to its wealth of natural resources, being the world's
leading producer of both gold and diamonds, and partly due to its
well-established legal system. South Africa also has access to
financial capital, numerous markets and skilled labor. Other African
countries are making comparable progress, such as Ghana, and some, like
Egypt, have a longer history of commercial and economic success.
Nigeria sits on one of the largest proven oil reserves in the world and
has the highest population among nations in Africa, with one of the
fastest-growing economies in the world.
> From 1995 to 2005, economic growth picked up, averaging 5% in 2005.
However some countries experienced much higher growth (10+%) in
particular, Angola, Sudan and Equatorial Guinea, all three of which
have recently begun extracting their petroleum reserves
Afrika , is maar van nature onsuksesvol, en sal soo bly in die toekoms
hied hanteer nie
Die biekie sukses , is maar tewyte aan olie wat Chevron en Shell vir
hulle pomp.
Om die waarhied te se , in die sub sahara het hulle maar nou eers leer
skryf.
ongelukik vir jou en torrek kan julle nie die waarhied hanteer nie
shame ek gee nie om nie
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Kom nou, Kolevraat, jy't gesê ek ken bitter min van my land se geskiedenis.
Jy't beweer die land was leeg.
Ek het jou maar net aan 'n paar ou feitjies van die geskiedenis herinner.
Hoekom bly jy nou stil? Is jy nou nie meer so seker van jou stelling dat
die land leeg was nie?
Moet ek jou daaraan herinner dat die Wes-Kaap vol Boesmans en Hottentotte
was (Khoi-San) toe van Riebeeck daar aangekom het? In Kirstenbosch is 'n
laning wat bekend staan as "Van Riebeeck se laning"; hy't dit laat plant in
'n poging om die nedersetting teen aanvalle van die Khoi-San te beskerm.
Van Riebeeck was maar net 10 jaar aan die Kaap!!! - en hy het al met
aanvalle deur die inheemse bevolking te doen gekry. Trouens, lank voor Van
Riebeeck se koms het 'n Portugese seevaarder op die Kaapse strand sy rieme
styfgeloop teen 'n Hottentot kaptein se vernuftige oorlogstaktiek.
Moet ek jou daaraan herinner dat die wit setlaars die Boesmans uitgeroei en
verjaag het? - die Hottentotte gekersten en met hulle ondertrou het? Waar
dink jy kom die Kaapse Kleurlinge vandaan? As dit net van 'n ondertrouery
tussen Blankes en Maleiers was, waarom die kroesies in hulle hare?
Moet ek jou aan die konflik tussen Grensboere en Xhosas herinner? - al die
Grens-oorloë met die Xhosas? - en die Britse Regering se onsimpatieke
hantering daarvan wat seker een van die belangrikste oorsake van die Groot
Trek was?
Moet ek jou herinner daaraan dat die Trekkers by Thaba Nchu in die Vrystaat
bymekaar gekom het voordat hulle Natal toe is? Waar dink jy het Thaba Nchu
sy naam vandaan gekry? Het die Voortrekkers dan 'n Sotho-taal gepraat?
Het die Trekkers met die geeste van hulle voorvaders onderhandel en met
beeste vir sommige stukke grond betaal?
Onthou jy nie meer dat die Boere te koop geloop het daarmee dat die ganse
Sotho-nasie deur die Zoeloes en Matebeles uitgeroei sou gewees het as dit
nie vir die Voortrekkers was wat hulle mag gebreek het nie?
Het jy die Retief-traktaat gelees? Onthou jy wat daarin staan?
Moet ek jou aan Vegkop en Bloukrans herinner?
Moet ek jou daaraan herinner dat Moffatt donkiejare voor die Voortrekkers by
Kuruman gevestig het en 'n Sendingstasie onder die Tswanas opgerig het?
Moet ek jou herinner aan eerw. Archbell wat ook lank voor die Voortrekkers
onder die Tswanas en Matebeles gewerk het - wat op 'n tydstip predikant van
die Voortrekkers geword het?
Die land was leeg?
Daardie belaglike argument is ou Nasionale Party apartheidspropaganda en het
nie 'n greintjie waarheid in nie!!!
Ek wag dat jy my met jou meerdere kennis oor die land se geskiedenis
weerspreek, Vuurtong!
Groete,
Die-man-wat-bitter-min-van-sy-land-se-geskiedenis-ken.
Alias Torreke.
NS. Ek het jou nie aan 'n ANC-weergawe van die geskiedenis herinner nie.
Nee, alles kom uit blankes se weergawe van die geskiedenis.
"Torreke" skryf in boodskap news:e605si$3oh$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
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> "fire_" wrote in message
> news:1149444077.760138.167680@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com.. .
>> Torreke wrote:
>>> "fire_" wrote in message
>>> news:1149258892.856661.238200@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com.. .
>
>>>> We were the ones with the guts to move into undiscovered territory and
>>>> tame it
>
>>> Dit was en is onverbloemde kolonialisme!!! Jy spog daarmee dat ons
>>> ander
>>> mense se grond afvgevat het!!!
>> Jy ken bitter min van jou eie geskiednis,die land was leeg.
>
> Wensdenkery!
>
> Waar kom al die Swartes vandaan? Uit die lug geval?
>
> Wie het die Matebeles uit die Wes-Trasnvaal tot in Zimbabwe gedryf?
> Die Slag van Bloedrivier is seker teen spoke gevoer. Piet Potgieter is
> seker deur sy eie mense doodgeskiet, nie deur Makapaan se mense nie. Sy
> Oom Hermanus is seker deur die winde oor die kop geslaan en sy vel lewend
> afgeslag. Al die veldtogte teen Sekoekoenie was seker teen windeiers.
>
> Geskiedenis is een van my lieflingvakke. Ek ken dit duidelik beter as jy.
>
>> Die amerikaners het die rooi huide uitgemoor Ons het nie.Die ausies
>> was noe veel beter nie , ons was nooit aan volkmoord skuldig nie.
>
> Dit maak geen bloue duit verskil aan die feit dat ons ander mense se grond
> afgevat en toe eenvoudig ons wil op hulle probeer afdwing het nie. En jy
> wil dit nog steeds doen.
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So die "boere" bly in Texas - of so iets?
Great!!
Vertel dit wyd asb!!
'n Las is van ons skouers af!
On 2 Jun 2006 07:34:52 -0700, "fire_" wrote:
> Now that's a weak one , if I ever have heard one.
>
> The Boers are white settlers , distinct form the Afrikaans in their
> heritage
> We were the ones with the guts to move into undiscovered territory and
> tame it , the Afrikaans were on the other hand , willing to stay under
> British rule , unlike us.
> Yes if you are a boer , you will speak Afrikaans , just like a American
> speaks English but were are distinct in our heritage of being frontiers
> men.
> The Cape Afrikaners can not claim to be boers neither can the coloreds
> or anybody ells for that matter , except maybe a few Texan's from the
> US , but they will miss the target on account of the language.
>
> If you claim we are of mixed race , so be it , but we are not , you are
> just trying to confuse the issue. Maybe you are of mixed race and want
> to ad yourself to our group.
> Sorry that will not suffice, maybe you just hate us , sorry we do not
> care.
>
> I know that the absolute best efforts have been made to try to
> emasculate us , sorry we are still here and will be here for a long
> time to come .
>
> So , try to deny us the sun , we will not be bothered , we will
> survive.
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Di, 06 Junie 2006 09:35 |
Ferdi Greyling
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Wat van jy begin by Afrikaans skryf, kry dit eers onder die knie en
werk dan verder deur na boerskap ?
On 4 Jun 2006 14:11:47 -0700, "fire_" wrote:
>
> Francois Human wrote:
>> julle bliksemse probleem is dat julle alles wil hê terwyl die res van die
>> bevolking niks mag kry nie.
>
>
> Ek , kyk so deur jou posts , jy het lykmy nog altyd n vuil bek gehad.
> Nou sien ek jy het n klienkie dood met die suster tale , ie flaams en
> hollands
> dis nie mooi nie , ek weet jy verstaan hulle nie maar jy moet so bekie
> meer tolirant wees
>
> Nou , jou statement dat ons ales wil he ------------- snaaks dis juis
> die res wat alles wat ons gebou het will he , en net soos met eskom nie
> daarna kan kyk nie .
> nou met hulle BEE en AA skree hulle net vir meer , en meer maar weet
> nie hoe om dit te bestuur nie .
>
> Shame , hulle kan seker maar alles kry om jou gelukkig te hou, dan dit
> alles vernietig , da moet ons weer oor begin
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Di, 06 Junie 2006 10:53 |
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Torreke wrote:
> Kom nou, Kolevraat, jy't gesê ek ken bitter min van my land se geskiedenis.
> Jy't beweer die land was leeg.
>
> Ek het jou maar net aan 'n paar ou feitjies van die geskiedenis herinner.
> Hoekom bly jy nou stil? Is jy nou nie meer so seker van jou stelling dat
> die land leeg was nie?
>
> Moet ek jou daaraan herinner dat die Wes-Kaap vol Boesmans en Hottentotte
> was (Khoi-San) toe van Riebeeck daar aangekom het? In Kirstenbosch is 'n
> laning wat bekend staan as "Van Riebeeck se laning"; hy't dit laat plant in
> 'n poging om die nedersetting teen aanvalle van die Khoi-San te beskerm.
> Van Riebeeck was maar net 10 jaar aan die Kaap!!! - en hy het al met
> aanvalle deur die inheemse bevolking te doen gekry. Trouens, lank voor Van
> Riebeeck se koms het 'n Portugese seevaarder op die Kaapse strand sy rieme
> styfgeloop teen 'n Hottentot kaptein se vernuftige oorlogstaktiek.
>
> Moet ek jou daaraan herinner dat die wit setlaars die Boesmans uitgeroei en
> verjaag het? - die Hottentotte gekersten en met hulle ondertrou het? Waar
> dink jy kom die Kaapse Kleurlinge vandaan? As dit net van 'n ondertrouery
> tussen Blankes en Maleiers was, waarom die kroesies in hulle hare?
>
> Moet ek jou aan die konflik tussen Grensboere en Xhosas herinner? - al die
> Grens-oorloë met die Xhosas? - en die Britse Regering se onsimpatieke
> hantering daarvan wat seker een van die belangrikste oorsake van die Groot
> Trek was?
>
> Moet ek jou herinner daaraan dat die Trekkers by Thaba Nchu in die Vrystaat
> bymekaar gekom het voordat hulle Natal toe is? Waar dink jy het Thaba Nchu
> sy naam vandaan gekry? Het die Voortrekkers dan 'n Sotho-taal gepraat?
>
> Het die Trekkers met die geeste van hulle voorvaders onderhandel en met
> beeste vir sommige stukke grond betaal?
>
> Onthou jy nie meer dat die Boere te koop geloop het daarmee dat die ganse
> Sotho-nasie deur die Zoeloes en Matebeles uitgeroei sou gewees het as dit
> nie vir die Voortrekkers was wat hulle mag gebreek het nie?
>
> Het jy die Retief-traktaat gelees? Onthou jy wat daarin staan?
>
> Moet ek jou aan Vegkop en Bloukrans herinner?
>
> Moet ek jou daaraan herinner dat Moffatt donkiejare voor die Voortrekkers by
> Kuruman gevestig het en 'n Sendingstasie onder die Tswanas opgerig het?
> Moet ek jou herinner aan eerw. Archbell wat ook lank voor die Voortrekkers
> onder die Tswanas en Matebeles gewerk het - wat op 'n tydstip predikant van
> die Voortrekkers geword het?
>
> Die land was leeg?
>
> Daardie belaglike argument is ou Nasionale Party apartheidspropaganda en het
> nie 'n greintjie waarheid in nie!!!
>
> Ek wag dat jy my met jou meerdere kennis oor die land se geskiedenis
> weerspreek, Vuurtong!
>
> Groete,
>
> Die-man-wat-bitter-min-van-sy-land-se-geskiedenis-ken.
>
> Alias Torreke.
>
> NS. Ek het jou nie aan 'n ANC-weergawe van die geskiedenis herinner nie.
> Nee, alles kom uit blankes se weergawe van die geskiedenis.
>
>
> "Torreke" wrote in message
> news:e605si$3oh$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
>>
>> "fire_" wrote in message
>> news:1149444077.760138.167680@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com.. .
>
>>> Torreke wrote:
>>>> "fire_" wrote in message
>>>> news:1149258892.856661.238200@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com.. .
>>
>>>> > We were the ones with the guts to move into undiscovered territory and
>>>> > tame it
>>
>>>> Dit was en is onverbloemde kolonialisme!!! Jy spog daarmee dat ons
>>>> ander
>>>> mense se grond afvgevat het!!!
>
>
>>> Jy ken bitter min van jou eie geskiednis,die land was leeg.
>>
>> Wensdenkery!
>>
>> Waar kom al die Swartes vandaan? Uit die lug geval?
>>
>> Wie het die Matebeles uit die Wes-Trasnvaal tot in Zimbabwe gedryf?
>> Die Slag van Bloedrivier is seker teen spoke gevoer. Piet Potgieter is
>> seker deur sy eie mense doodgeskiet, nie deur Makapaan se mense nie. Sy
>> Oom Hermanus is seker deur die winde oor die kop geslaan en sy vel lewend
>> afgeslag. Al die veldtogte teen Sekoekoenie was seker teen windeiers.
>>
>> Geskiedenis is een van my lieflingvakke. Ek ken dit duidelik beter as jy.
>>
>>> Die amerikaners het die rooi huide uitgemoor Ons het nie.Die ausies
>>> was noe veel beter nie , ons was nooit aan volkmoord skuldig nie.
>>
>> Dit maak geen bloue duit verskil aan die feit dat ons ander mense se grond
>> afgevat en toe eenvoudig ons wil op hulle probeer afdwing het nie. En jy
>> wil dit nog steeds doen.
Dink jy ek gee om dat jy glo wat jy glo ?
Nee ek doen nie , maar jy gebruik min konkrete vyte , net hoorse
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Di, 06 Junie 2006 13:24 |
Torreke
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"fire_" wrote ..
>> Dink jy ek gee om dat jy glo wat jy glo ?
>> Nee ek doen nie , maar jy gebruik min konkrete vyte , net hoorse
Jy kan nie eers "feite" en "hoor-sê" spel nie, en ek twyfel of jy weet wat
dit beteken.
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| Re: Hello, Africa! Boer Holocaust [boodskap #110471 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #110469] |
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Jy't gesê die land was leeg.
Is dit 'n "konkrete vyt"? Seker vyekonfyt, ja!
Ek het jou gevra: Waar het al die Swartes vandaan gekom? Uit die lug geval?
Jy't nie geantwoord nie, want jy kan nie.
Jy kan nie 'n enkele insident uit die geskiedenis wat ek aangehaal het, met
enige van jou "vyte" weerlê nie.
Dis jy wat nie "vyte" het nie - jy het wel skyte! - wat glo wat jy glo -
soos jy dit graag wil hê.
Ek dink jy moet Ferdi se goeie raad volg: Leer eers om ordentlike Afrikaans
te skryf en dan word jy verdediger van die Boere se saak.
"Torreke" skryf in boodskap news:e63uqe$rk8$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
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> "fire_" wrote ..
>
>>> Dink jy ek gee om dat jy glo wat jy glo ?
>
>>> Nee ek doen nie , maar jy gebruik min konkrete vyte , net hoorse
>
>
> Jy kan nie eers "feite" en "hoor-sê" spel nie, en ek twyfel of jy weet wat
> dit beteken.
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Di, 06 Junie 2006 14:27 |
Torreke
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Eintlik het jy nooit my vraag beantwoord nie: Is julle bereid om Swartes wat
met die boerevolk assosieer as lede van die Boerevolk te aanvaar?
"fire_" wrote in message
news:1149258892.856661.238200@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com.. .
> Now that's a weak one , if I ever have heard one.
>
> The Boers are white settlers , distinct form the Afrikaans in their
> heritage
> We were the ones with the guts to move into undiscovered territory and
> tame it , the Afrikaans were on the other hand , willing to stay under
> British rule , unlike us.
> Yes if you are a boer , you will speak Afrikaans , just like a American
> speaks English but were are distinct in our heritage of being frontiers
> men.
> The Cape Afrikaners can not claim to be boers neither can the coloreds
> or anybody ells for that matter , except maybe a few Texan's from the
> US , but they will miss the target on account of the language.
>
> If you claim we are of mixed race , so be it , but we are not , you are
> just trying to confuse the issue. Maybe you are of mixed race and want
> to ad yourself to our group.
> Sorry that will not suffice, maybe you just hate us , sorry we do not
> care.
>
> I know that the absolute best efforts have been made to try to
> emasculate us , sorry we are still here and will be here for a long
> time to come .
>
> So , try to deny us the sun , we will not be bothered , we will
> survive.
>
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Torreke wrote:
> Eintlik het jy nooit my vraag beantwoord nie: Is julle bereid om Swartes wat
> met die boerevolk assosieer as lede van die Boerevolk te aanvaar?
>
>
nee, hy het nie die nodige geskiednis nie en sal nie die ta praat nie
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Annette wrote:
> En hoeveel van daardie 24 000 vroue en kinders was nie blank nie?
>
> Vir wat wil iemand vir mense vertel van iets wat 105 jaar gelede vertel asof
> dit vars nuus is?
> Is die Tannie net so betjoiks soos haar man en seuns?
>
> --
> Groetnis
> Annette
> "NewsGuy" wrote in message
> news:1149089928.399789.154480@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> Tonight, a history lesson van Die BoereVolk! Tant Minnie Pretorius,
>> wife of Dr. Lets Pretorius, speaks about the genocide of 24,000 women
>> and children by the hands of the British in Die Anglo-BoereWar. The
>> concentration camps and the horror inflicted upon them. Tant Minnie is
>> a descendant of TrekkBoeres who crossed the Vaal river in the land of
>> Die TransVaal!
>>
>> Tant Minnie then speaks of her recently being accosted by a Bantu
>> security guard while on her way to trial.
>>
>> Also, Judge Ronald calls in to speak with John about South Africa and
>> the Boervolk.
>>
>>
>> Download Podcast Here:
>>
> http://therightperspectivepodcastblog.blogspot.com/2006/05/h ello-africa-boer
> -holocaust.html
>>
>>
>> The Right Perspective - Heard LIVE every Friday 10pm EST over shortwave
>> WWCR 3.215 Mhz and the Internet at www.therightperspective.com
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>>
Sedert jy dit nie self kan vind nie , hiers die '' History"
The concentration camps
Boer women and children in a concentration campThese had originally
been set up for refugees whose farms had been destroyed by the British
"Scorched Earth" policy (burning down all Boer homesteads and farms).
However, following Kitchener's new policy, many women and children were
forcibly moved to prevent the Boers from resupplying at their homes and
more camps were built and converted to prisons. This relatively new
idea was essentially humane in its planning in London but ultimately
proved brutal due to its lack of proper implementation. This was not
the first appearance of concentration camps. The Spanish used them in
the Ten Years' War that later led to the Spanish-American War, and the
United States used them to devastate guerrilla forces during the
Philippine-American War. But the concentration camp system of the
British was on a much larger scale.
There were a total of 45 tented camps built for Boer internees and 64
for black African ones. Of the 28,000 Boer men captured as prisoners of
war, 25,630 were sent overseas. So, most Boers remaining in the local
camps were women and children, but the native African ones held large
numbers of men as well. Even when forcibly removed from Boer areas, the
black Africans were not considered to be hostile to the British, and
provided a paid labour force.
The conditions in the camps were very unhealthy and the food rations
were meagre. Women and children of menfolk who were still fighting were
given smaller rations than others. The poor diet and inadequate hygiene
led to endemic contagious diseases such as measles, typhoid and
dysentery. Coupled with a shortage of medical facilities, this led to
large numbers of deaths - a report after the war concluded that
27,927 Boers (of whom 22,074 were children under 16) and 14,154 black
Africans had died of starvation, disease and exposure in the
concentration camps. In all, about 25% of the Boer inmates and 12% of
the black African ones died (although recent research suggests that the
black African deaths were underestimated and may have actually been
around 20,000).
A delegate of the South African Women and Children's Distress Fund,
Emily Hobhouse, did much to publicise the distress of the inmates on
her return to Britain after visiting some of the camps in the Orange
Free State. Her fifteen-page report caused uproar, and led to a
government commission, the Fawcett Commission, visiting camps from
August to December 1901 which confirmed her report. They were highly
critical of the running of the camps and made numerous recommendations,
for example improvements in diet and provision of proper medical
facilities. By February 1902 the annual death-rate dropped to 6.9 % and
eventually to 2 %.
Counterinsurgency techniques which were applied by the British in the
Boer War were later reused by the British to fend off Malayan communist
rebels during the Malayan Emergency.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Boer_War
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bouer
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fire_ skryf
> There were a total of 45 tented camps built for Boer internees and 64
> for black African ones.
the native African ones held large
> numbers of men as well.
14,154 black
> Africans had died of starvation, disease and exposure in the
> concentration camps recent research suggests that the
> black African deaths were underestimated and may have actually been
> around 20,000).
Wêreld, ek het dit nie besef nie. Was daar
werklik so baie swartmense in die konsentrasie-
kampe. Dit was dus 'n swart holocaust ook.
Gloudina
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| Re: Hello, Africa! Boer Holocaust [boodskap #110479 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #110478] |
Wo, 07 Junie 2006 02:16 |
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Inderdaad. Die minister van kuns en kultuur, Pallo Jordan, het volgens 'n
berig in 'n Oos Kaapse koerant onlangs voorgestel dat daar by die
Vrouemonument in Bloemfontein erkenning gegee behoort te word aan die
swartes wat in die kampe gesterf het. Ek stem saam met hom.
Maar natuurlik was daar onmiddellik 'n klomp Boerevolkers wat onmiddellik
kapsie gemaak het daarteen dat die swartes 'n sg heiligdom wil binnedring.
Die mense dink nie verder as wat hulle neuse lank is nie. Die swartes was
goed genoeg om in hulle huise te werk, hulle beeste op te pas, te help
ploeg, plant en skoffel, agterryers te wees in die oorlog, in die kampe te
sterf, maar as erkenning gegee moet word daaraan, dan is ons terug by
apartheid - dan moet die swartes asseblief ver weg bly. Dan probeer hulle
aan die ander kant dieselfde Pallo Jordan oortuig om nie Pretoria se naam te
verander nie! Om nie eens te praat van die stryd rondom Bloemfontein se
naam nie - dit is nog maar aan die begin.
"Hessie" wrote in message
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fire_ skryf
> There were a total of 45 tented camps built for Boer internees and 64
> for black African ones.
the native African ones held large
> numbers of men as well.
14,154 black
> Africans had died of starvation, disease and exposure in the
> concentration camps recent research suggests that the
> black African deaths were underestimated and may have actually been
> around 20,000).
Wêreld, ek het dit nie besef nie. Was daar
werklik so baie swartmense in die konsentrasie-
kampe. Dit was dus 'n swart holocaust ook.
Gloudina
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| Re: Hello, Africa! Boer Holocaust [boodskap #110480 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #110474] |
Wo, 07 Junie 2006 06:37 |
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Sal julle 'n Italianer of 'n Rus aanvaar wat hom met die Boereolk assosieer?
"fire_" wrote in message
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> Torreke wrote:
>> Eintlik het jy nooit my vraag beantwoord nie: Is julle bereid om Swartes
>> wat
>> met die boerevolk assosieer as lede van die Boerevolk te aanvaar?
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> nee, hy het nie die nodige geskiednis nie en sal nie die ta praat nie
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| Re: Hello, Africa! Boer Holocaust [boodskap #110483 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #110482] |
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Ferdi Greyling wrote:
> On 6 Jun 2006 08:36:16 -0700, "fire_" wrote:
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> Dit klink my jy praat ook nie juis die taal nie...
Ek praat die taal , skryf hom net nie meer goed nie , tedanke aan die
fyt dat ek nou al jare lank internationaal werk.
Dis juis in the internationale arena wat mens sien hou agterlik mense
soos torrek en jy is.
Die wereld is besig om te verander , ver mee vinnig as wat julle dink.
Julle behoort nog aan die 80' en 90 met julle PC
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| Re: Hello, Africa! Boer Holocaust [boodskap #110490 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #110483] |
Wo, 07 Junie 2006 12:46 |
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Wel, ek praat en skryf die taal.
Ek en bly hier.
Dit sal jou dalk interresseer dat meer bruin mense die taal praat en
skryf as witmense. En dat hulle omtrent almal dit beter as jy doen.
Lyk my jy sal jou toelatingsvereistes vir die boer-groep ietwat moet
aanpas as jy ook deel daarvan wil wees.
Net so by the way, jou verkeerde gebruik klink baie Engels.
Ek sou raai jy is eintlik Engels...
On 7 Jun 2006 03:37:11 -0700, "fire_" wrote:
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> Ferdi Greyling wrote:
>> On 6 Jun 2006 08:36:16 -0700, "fire_" wrote:
>> nie
>> Dit klink my jy praat ook nie juis die taal nie...
>
> Ek praat die taal , skryf hom net nie meer goed nie , tedanke aan die
> fyt dat ek nou al jare lank internationaal werk.
> Dis juis in the internationale arena wat mens sien hou agterlik mense
> soos torrek en jy is.
> Die wereld is besig om te verander , ver mee vinnig as wat julle dink.
> Julle behoort nog aan die 80' en 90 met julle PC
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Ferdi Greyling wrote:
> Wel, ek praat en skryf die taal.
> Ek en bly hier.
>
> Dit sal jou dalk interresseer dat meer bruin mense die taal praat en
> skryf as witmense. En dat hulle omtrent almal dit beter as jy doen.
>
> Lyk my jy sal jou toelatingsvereistes vir die boer-groep ietwat moet
> aanpas as jy ook deel daarvan wil wees.
>
> Net so by the way, jou verkeerde gebruik klink baie Engels.
>
> Ek sou raai jy is eintlik Engels...
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>
>
> On 7 Jun 2006 03:37:11 -0700, "fire_" wrote:
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>>
>> Ferdi Greyling wrote:
>>> On 6 Jun 2006 08:36:16 -0700, "fire_" wrote:
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>>> > nie
>
>>> Dit klink my jy praat ook nie juis die taal nie...
>>
>> Ek praat die taal , skryf hom net nie meer goed nie , tedanke aan die
>> fyt dat ek nou al jare lank internationaal werk.
>> Dis juis in the internationale arena wat mens sien hou agterlik mense
>> soos torrek en jy is.
>> Die wereld is besig om te verander , ver mee vinnig as wat julle dink.
>> Julle behoort nog aan die 80' en 90 met julle PC
Jy's reg , dit klink baie engels , omdat ek vir die laaste 10 jaar
omtrent net engels en amerikaans praat waar ek werk.
Dis ongelukig so dat my tik afrikaans daaronder ly , maar ek is
nogsteeds n boer , en n wereld burger ook
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| Re: Hello, Africa! Boer Holocaust [boodskap #110493 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #110483] |
Wo, 07 Junie 2006 22:11 |
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fire skryf
> Ek praat die taal , skryf hom net nie meer goed nie , tedanke aan die
> fyt dat ek nou al jare lank internationaal werk.
Ag, spaar my dié gesanik. Ek is al meer as dertig
jaar uit SA uit, en ek kan nog Afrikaans spel en
praat asof ek gister uit SA weg is. Ek stel dit aan
jou dat jy nooit goed in Afrikaans kon praat en goed
kon spel nie. Dis tipies van julle soort. Julle is plein
agterlik.
Gloudina
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