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Boodskap aan die Indiers & SABC
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description: Die SABC het in September 1997 Shri Sathya Sai Baba, 'n Indiese Avatar, in 'n program oor "frauds" uitgebeeld as 'n kroek. Besluit om ondersoek te gaan instel, en in September 1997 Indie vir 'n maand getoer, en die Tibetaane in Dharamsala, Bhagvan Shri Rashneesh (www.osho.org) en Shri Sathya Sai Baba se Ashram besoek in Puttaparthi. Hy word wereldwyd beskou as 'n Avatar. (Dit is iemand soos Jesus Christus, maar vir die Indier geloof). Persone wat soontoe gaan, word in hulle eie geloof versterk. Ek het geen besprekings vooraf gemaak nie, net 'n lae koste reis handboek gebruik. Baie Indiers het my gehelp. Hulle is fantastiese mense. Was in Indie vir nie langer as vyf minute gestrand nie. Die reis was 'n totale wonderwerk. Sai Baba het 'n hospitaal in Puttaparthi, Indie waar pasiente gratis operasies ontvang. Hulle betaal slegs vir medisyne. Wie durf hom beledig? Hoekom vertel die "frauds" program nie al die feite nie - hoekom net die helfte wat hulle pas? Die oggend toe ek daar aankom, 7h05, kom Baba uit sy kamer uit, en ek staan teenoor Hom, aan die ander kant van die Tempel, toe die klokke begin lui het. Hoendervleis gekry. Daardie dag, net daardie dag vir die week wat ek daar deurgebring het, waar daar 'n ry mense oop tussen my en die Baba. Die ander dae was die pad nie oop nie, en mense het in bondels daaroor gesit. Ek was binne 3 meter van Hom af. Kan duisende synergy wonderwerke van Deepak Chropra se boek opnoem, wat gebeur het. Die multi-kulturele ervaring wat beleef is, was fantasties. Net aan Paul Kruger gedink wat met sy elektroniese perd van rekenaar tot rekenaar ry, die vyand laat skrik, en sy mense inlig, oor wat ons die diepste kwel - hoekom haat hulle ons so? Dit was 'n Baba geskenk, glo ek. In Indie kom ek agter Sjina en Pakistan is haar vyande, wat later bevestig word. En op die Internet verkoop hulle Pelindaba aan Sjina. Nadat die ANC so suksel was met die Afrikaners, wat chiauaus geword het wat traantjies in hulle ogies kry, nou ook so met die Indie…
creator: reisiger
date: 1999-07-30T00:00:00-00:00

Re: Boodskap aan die Indiers & SABC
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description: FYI, The following is from an online book that analyses Sai Baba's "miracles". Its a must read for anyone who is interested in Sai Baba in any way. http://psg.com/~ted/bcskeptics/sbmir/db-book.html To be omniscient is to be all knowing. Such a claim is impossible to confirm with certainty, for it would involve testing the person's knowledge about absolutely everything! But it is very easy to refute if it is a false claim. All that is required is to show that the person making the claim lacks some knowledge that it is possible for a person to have. For example, one who is omniscient will know all the human languages of the world. But Sai Baba, by his own admission and that of his followers, only knows two or three Indian languages fluently. And in a country where vast numbers of people speak fluent English, Sai Baba's English is too broken and unsteady for use in public discourses! In his letters to devotees, Sai Baba makes no pretences about this, and, for instance, excuses himself to one disciple for not having written earlier, explaining that he had no translator about so he could not get his letter translated: 1 - Sai Baba's Letter To Hislop, 8-9-69: Hislop accept this shower of Love and Joy. I received all the letters you wrote, and felt happy, reading them. Since I could not get a moment of leisure, due to the various items of work connected with the Whitefield College, and since the hurdle of language had to be crossed that is to say, since I could not write to you directly in Telugu, and I did not have with me persons who could correctly translate what I write I had to send you this letter after so much delay. Sai Baba's Letter Quoted in Hislop, My Baba & I, p. 235. 2 - Sai Baba's Letter To Hislop, 15-1-70: Hislop, accept my blessings. The letters you sent have all been received. I have read them all...but, I was not able to send you replies, immediately. Many thousands of devotees had gathered during Dasara, the Birthday, and the All-India Conference of Offi…
creator: la_q...
date: 1999-07-31T00:00:00-00:00

Re: Boodskap aan die Indiers & SABC
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description: In article , Said wrote: > In article , > la_q...@my-deja.com teased: > > SAME SPAM HUNDREDS NEWS GROUP!!! > >> Therefore, do not imagine that I have forgotten you. I shall > never >> forget you... >> >> Letter of Sai Baba quoted in Hislop, ibid., p. 238. >> >> So, in Sai Baba's own words, he lacks the knowledge to do certain >> things--in short, he is not omniscient! How do we reconcile this > obvious >> contradiction? > > BY THINKING!!! > > "How do we reconcile this obvious contradiction?" > > Jesus First Statement about command:Whosoever therefore shall break one > of the least these commandments andshall teach men so he shall be > called the least in the kingdom ofheaven;Jesus Second Statmeent about > commandments:For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day Jesus says that you are a part of God but the devil's temptations keep you from heaven. No contradiction there, only philosophy. But there is a lot of contradictions in Baba's speach that cannot be thought out as philosophy. For example, how can he one day say that the Star that appeared when Jesus was born is due to the birth of Jesus and then say that the Star is not because of the birth of Jesus and it only appears once every few hundred years? What is the logic behind that. And oh, do you think that because I have spammed before makes Sai Baba holy? You are so sloooowwww! Hehehehehe Yes, I spammed, and will continue to do so. Copy this message and post it in all of your messages, OK? NO one will care, you can't save Sai Baba by telling people that I spam. Only Sai Baba can save himself by coming clean of his mistakes. And one more thing, I am not ashamed that Sai Baba molested me or that I masterbated, otherwise I wouldn't put it on the internet. Do you get the idea? Hehehehe I put my experience on the internet for everyone to see, so why do you post my experience to the newsgroups as if the sexual content is going to hurt my reputation? You are really stupid man. Get a brain. Heheheheh > > Afshin …
creator: la_q...
date: 1999-07-31T00:00:00-00:00

Re: Boodskap aan die Indiers & SABC
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description: So, in Sai Baba's own words, he lacks the knowledge to do certain things--in short, he is not omniscient! How do we reconcile this obvious contradiction? This is an Afikaans ng. I hereby request sincerely, that you translate your postings into Afrikaans if you wish to participate here. I am not prepared to continue this discussion in English, neither will this ng be used to instigate racial hatred between Afrikaners and Indians. I know too many facts. Therefore this discussion shall continue in Afrikaans, under my personal interpretation of the Christian Bible. God het die aarde geskape. En die mense vrye keuse te gee om te doen wat hulle wil. Dit bewys God is nie dood nie, maar dat hy lewe. Nou is dit ons keuse om die pad te loop wat ons wil. Elke sekonde is ons sekonde van keuse. Op die einde van die dag, maak nie saak hoe ons na al die argumente kyk nie, kan ons net op ons eie vasstel wat aangaan. En na onsself kyk in alle opregtheid en eerlikheid, in ons goeie en slegte eienskappe - beide die skaduwee kant en die goeie helfte. En wyd te lees. My pad is om buite Afrikaner politieke gemaksones te beweeg, van Christelike gemaksones na gemaksones van ander godsdiensste. Leendert kyk hierna. Nou sal jy Beeld te verwronge beeld verstaan. Sai Baba is anti-Kommunisties. Dit is hoekom hy so gehaat word, en ons as Afrikaners. Die beginsel van Kommunisme is dat rasse mekaar nie kan verdra nie, en haat onstaan. Dit is snert. Rasse kan in vrede met mekaar saamlewe. Daar is talle bewyse. Ons hunker om in vrede saam te leef, maar politieke partye swaai rasse haat teen mekaar op. As ons as Afrikaners nie bereid is andere te gun wat hulle wil wees nie, en andere haat, ondersteun ons Kommunisme en weet dit nie eers nie. Ek is nie bereid om rassime in SA te veroorsaak nie. Die feit is dat ek nie langer hierdie ng kon hanteer as 'n media verlenging om haat teen Afrikaners te blaas nie. Hulle is siek. Ons is ook siek. Die probleem is ons soek die foute by andere, maar kan dit nie in…
creator: reisiger
date: 1999-08-01T00:00:00-00:00