The poor idiot has the facts wrong. Jesus did not fight Satan at the cross. He actually defeated him by rising from the grave. Jesus being God in human form caused the hold that Satan and Death have over believers to dissipate. What is left is the mere remnants of the power of Satan Aan Ferdi kan ek net sê: ware intelligensie is om te glo, dit wat onsienlik is en nie om met menslike slimpraatjies die teendeel te probeer bewys nie. Ek en jy is te stupid om hierdie wereld te vertaan, dus moet ons slim genoeg wees om inHom te glo wat die weereld laat ONTstaan het. Soois "Ferdi" skryf in boodskap news:4rk763p4rnqok1bdk2ll85rohbnfasnepn@4ax.com... > On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 13:17:27 -0000, Dino wrote: > > and now they are in a worse state than they were at first. They would >> have been better off if they had never known about the right way. What >> happened to them is just like the true saying, "A dog will come back >> to lick up its own vomit. A pig that has been washed will roll in the >> mud." 2 Peter 2:20b-21a, 22. >> You are a dog and a pig and you refuse to bow down to the Lamb of God. >> May God have mercy on your soul! > > Ah! The forgiving nature of fundamentalist Christians is a thing to > behold...
Francois Human, Ons sal nou nou lekker saam praat, jy en ek, hoor. Dis goed. Don't hold your breath though. Lekker briefie dat jy vir jou maaitjie geskryf het, ne? (Look, guys, my Afrikaans is not great, so spare me the comments, let's try and stick to the subject). You call me an idiot. My, my and what are you? Totsiens, D.
Meneer Francois Human, *The poor idiot has the facts wrong. Jesus did not fight Satan at the cross. *He actually defeated him by rising from the grave. Jesus being God in human *form caused the hold that Satan and Death have over believers to dissipate. *What is left is the mere remnants of the power of Satan You first call me an idiot and it most probably brought you a lot of satisfaction, yes? ( as you can see, Farticus, I'm using question marks). How sure are you that Jesus did not fight Satan on the Cross? Jesus fought Satan throughout His life and especially when He fasted in the desert, prayed in the garden of Gethsemane and one of the most momentous battles took place in the events leading up to and on to the Cross. Yes, He was Victorious by rising from His tomb after being three days in it. The hold that Satan and death had over us was totally defeated, once and for all, no dissipation in this. There is no remnants of the power of Satan, he was defeated, what remains is our continued rebellion and unbelief in God. We are Satan now, Jesus will come to judge us now. Don't mistaken me for one moment, Satan does exist and does influence us still, but we are the main culprits now, worshipping ourselves as gods with all our wealth, scientific and technological acheivements and all the decadence that goes with such folly. God gave us a way out, His Son, our Lord Jesus Christ and we ignored it. Aan Ferdi kan ek net s?: ware intelligensie is om te glo, dit wat onsienlik is en nie om met menslike slimpraatjies die teendeel te probeer bewys nie. Ek en jy is te stupid om hierdie wereld te vertaan, dus moet ons slim genoeg wees om inHom te glo wat die weereld laat ONTstaan het. You console Ferdi and it is very encouraging and heartwarming, indeed. Yet, you call me an idiot. You give yourself away by what you've said. As far as I'm concerned, it is one devil consoling another. Even the devil knows Scripture inside out, but does not understand it, that's all. Groete, D.
On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 23:10:37 +0200, "Francois Human" wrote: > The poor idiot has the facts wrong. Jesus did not fight Satan at the cross. > He actually defeated him by rising from the grave. Jesus being God in human > form caused the hold that Satan and Death have over believers to dissipate. > What is left is the mere remnants of the power of Satan > > Aan Ferdi kan ek net sê: ware intelligensie is om te glo, dit wat onsienlik > is en nie om met menslike slimpraatjies die teendeel te probeer bewys nie. > > Ek en jy is te stupid om hierdie wereld te vertaan, dus moet ons slim genoeg > wees om inHom te glo wat die weereld laat ONTstaan het. > > Soois So, as ek jou reg verstaan, se jy as 'n mens slim wil wees moet jy ophou dink? Hoe het jy daarby uitgekom? Het jy dalk jou logiese verstand gebruik? Indien wel, is die konklusie wat jy bereik het mkos nie te vertrou nie?
Ek is al baie goed genoem, maar devil is 'n nuwe een. Sorry lat ek jou idiot genoem het. My fout. "Dino" wrote in message news:1181167073.895272.28160@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com... Meneer Francois Human, *The poor idiot has the facts wrong. Jesus did not fight Satan at the cross. *He actually defeated him by rising from the grave. Jesus being God in human *form caused the hold that Satan and Death have over believers to dissipate. *What is left is the mere remnants of the power of Satan You first call me an idiot and it most probably brought you a lot of satisfaction, yes? ( as you can see, Farticus, I'm using question marks). How sure are you that Jesus did not fight Satan on the Cross? Jesus fought Satan throughout His life and especially when He fasted in the desert, prayed in the garden of Gethsemane and one of the most momentous battles took place in the events leading up to and on to the Cross. Yes, He was Victorious by rising from His tomb after being three days in it. The hold that Satan and death had over us was totally defeated, once and for all, no dissipation in this. There is no remnants of the power of Satan, he was defeated, what remains is our continued rebellion and unbelief in God. We are Satan now, Jesus will come to judge us now. Don't mistaken me for one moment, Satan does exist and does influence us still, but we are the main culprits now, worshipping ourselves as gods with all our wealth, scientific and technological acheivements and all the decadence that goes with such folly. God gave us a way out, His Son, our Lord Jesus Christ and we ignored it. Aan Ferdi kan ek net sê: ware intelligensie is om te glo, dit wat onsienlik is en nie om met menslike slimpraatjies die teendeel te probeer bewys nie. Ek en jy is te stupid om hierdie wereld te vertaan, dus moet ons slim genoeg wees om inHom te glo wat die weereld laat ONTstaan het. You console Ferdi and it is very encouraging and heartwarming, indeed. Yet, you call me an idiot. You give yourself away by what you've said. As far as I'm concerned, it is one devil consoling another. Even the devil knows Scripture inside out, but does not understand it, that's all. Groete, D.
Niemand het gesê God is logies nie. "Ferdi" skryf in boodskap news:lsjf63hlg52jpeu28inbaet3reuh0t3a1a@4ax.com... > On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 23:10:37 +0200, "Francois Human" > wrote: > > the cross. >> He actually defeated him by rising from the grave. Jesus being God in >> human >> form caused the hold that Satan and Death have over believers to >> dissipate. >> What is left is the mere remnants of the power of Satan >> Aan Ferdi kan ek net sê: ware intelligensie is om te glo, dit wat >> onsienlik >> is en nie om met menslike slimpraatjies die teendeel te probeer bewys nie. >> Ek en jy is te stupid om hierdie wereld te vertaan, dus moet ons slim >> genoeg >> wees om inHom te glo wat die weereld laat ONTstaan het. >> Soois > > So, as ek jou reg verstaan, se jy as 'n mens slim wil wees moet jy > ophou dink? > > Hoe het jy daarby uitgekom? Het jy dalk jou logiese verstand gebruik? > Indien wel, is die konklusie wat jy bereik het mkos nie te vertrou > nie? >
On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:29:39 +0200, Ferdi wrote: > On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 23:10:37 +0200, "Francois Human" > wrote: > > the cross. >> He actually defeated him by rising from the grave. Jesus being God in human >> form caused the hold that Satan and Death have over believers to dissipate. >> What is left is the mere remnants of the power of Satan >> Aan Ferdi kan ek net sê: ware intelligensie is om te glo, dit wat onsienlik >> is en nie om met menslike slimpraatjies die teendeel te probeer bewys nie. >> Ek en jy is te stupid om hierdie wereld te vertaan, dus moet ons slim genoeg >> wees om inHom te glo wat die weereld laat ONTstaan het. >> Soois > > So, as ek jou reg verstaan, se jy as 'n mens slim wil wees moet jy > ophou dink? > > Hoe het jy daarby uitgekom? Het jy dalk jou logiese verstand gebruik? > Indien wel, is die konklusie wat jy bereik het mkos nie te vertrou > nie? Hierdie was 'n doelbewuste poging om misleidend, of ten minste vaag en skuilend (my eie ontwerp omdat ek nie lus is om te soek na die regte woord nie) te antwoord. Ek dink oor die jare het ons groep groot genoeg vriende geword om meer openlik oor eie sieninge te wees, en nie systappendde antwoorde te gee nie. Eintlik is dit lekker as elkeen weet presies hoe en wat die ander lede redeneer, en dan is dit nie nodig om iemand se antwoord te lees en wonder wat daar bedoel word nie. Francois is openlik oor hoe hy oor dinge voel. Daar is sieninge wat ek nie met hom deel nie, soos sy duidelike pogings om van 'n konserwatiewe ma 'n liberalistiese denke oor te slaan, maar hy is eerlik daaroor. Een of twee keer 'n jaar sê ons hallo vir mekaar oor sy toonbank, en ek hou van die ou. Riaan is straight reggsgesind en hy pobeer dit nie wegsteek nie Hy sê presies hoe hy oor dinge voel, hy praat nie om draaie nie en gee selfs toe dat hy miskien verkeerd redeneer, maar glo dat hy reg is en daarom sê en glo soos hy sê en glo. Bouwer glo die helfte van ons Bybel en die res vul sy aan met wat die vet mannetjie sê. Jim Again is 'n vark en hy probeer dit nie wegsteek nie. Daar is 'n outjie wat (ek dink) uit Aus pos, en wanneer hy leer om meer as een sin in dieselfde brief te skryf sal ons 'n opinie oor hom ook kan vorm. Ek is die intelligente warm presoonlikheid in Durbs wat altyd nice is met almal en niemand skade doen nie. Die een wat nie weet hoe ek redeneer nie, hoef dit nie te weet nie, want hy lees nie. En jy, wat glo jy? Waarom gee jy heel dikwels hierdie tipe antwoord maar bedek jou eie sieninge oor die betrokke onderwerp? * Wat glo jy met betrekking tot wat die Skrif leer? *
On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 18:48:01 +0200, "Francois Human" wrote: > Ek is al baie goed genoem, maar devil is 'n nuwe een. Sorry lat ek jou > idiot genoem het. My fout. > Ag kom nou Francois:-( As ek reg onthou het die pous ook die moslems om verskoning gevra. Hy is 'n idioot en jy het nie gefouteer nie. Jy kry geen medalje hiervoor nie.
MATTEUS 5:22 Maar Ek sê vir julle: Elkeen wat vir sy broer kwaad is, is al strafbaar voor die regbank. Verder, elkeen wat sy broer uitskel vir 'n gek, is strafbaar voor die Joodse Raad; en wie hom uitskel vir 'n idioot, is strafbaar met die helse vuur. "Dave" skryf in boodskap news:seeg63pcrl1fppp7h9lnkvtp548t8g5m08@4ax.com... > On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 18:48:01 +0200, "Francois Human" > wrote: > >> Ek is al baie goed genoem, maar devil is 'n nuwe een. Sorry lat ek jou >> idiot genoem het. My fout. > > Ag kom nou Francois:-( > As ek reg onthou het die pous ook die moslems om verskoning gevra. > Hy is 'n idioot en jy het nie gefouteer nie. > Jy kry geen medalje hiervoor nie. >
Medalje? Dis nie waaroor dit gaan nie. "Dave" skryf in boodskap news:seeg63pcrl1fppp7h9lnkvtp548t8g5m08@4ax.com... > On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 18:48:01 +0200, "Francois Human" > wrote: > >> Ek is al baie goed genoem, maar devil is 'n nuwe een. Sorry lat ek jou >> idiot genoem het. My fout. > > Ag kom nou Francois:-( > As ek reg onthou het die pous ook die moslems om verskoning gevra. > Hy is 'n idioot en jy het nie gefouteer nie. > Jy kry geen medalje hiervoor nie. >