MOSES SE KUSITIESE VROU [Hierdie bybelstudie met die komplimente van JW12 vanaf Praag se GF] ... Num. 12: 1 : "En Mirjam en Aäron het teen Moses gespreek vanweë die Kusitiese vrou wat hy geneem het ; want hy het 'n Kusitiese vrou geneem." [1933/53 Vertaling]. Die hele Bybel spreek openlik en lynreg teen enige vorm van rasse-vermenging en/of integrasie. Israel was altyd streng voorgeskryf om NIE te vermeng nie. Hieroor is die Bybel konsekwent. Selfs Christus praat teen ver- menging in die boek van Openbaring. Ons liberale teoloë en Babiloniese Eenheidsleer-verkondigers misbruik graag "Moses se Kusitiese vrou" om vermenging en verbastering goed te keur, solank dit "in die Naam van Jesus geskied". Die skrywer sal vervolgens bo alle twyfel aandui dat Moses met hierdie Kusitiese vrou (Adoniah) slegs weens politiese redes getrou het ['n politiese troue], en dat Moses haar nooit aangeraak het, of enige kinders by haar gekry het nie. Eerstens : Let op na Mirjam en Aäron se reaksie en optrede omdat Moses 'n 'Kusitiese vrou' gehad het. - Hulle het teen Moses gespreek. Die vraag is : Waarom sou hulle dan teen Moses spreek indien dit moontlik aanvaarbaar sou wees vir 'n Israeliet om met een van die kinders van Gam ('n ander ras of etniese groep) te trou ? - Mirjam en Aäron was slegs oningelig oor Moses se Kusitiese vrou, en het nie onmiddelik besef dat dit slegs 'n politiese troue was nie. Lees verder ... DIE BOEK VAN JASHER [Jasher = "Upright"] Die boek van Jasher is 'n belangrike en onmisbare geskrif wat betroubare feite en geskiedenis vanaf Adam tot Joshua bevat. Dit is een van die boeke wat verkeerdelik uit Die Bybel uitge- laat is, omdat dit akkuraat oorenstem met die ooreenkomstige Bybelboeke van sy tyd. In Die Bybel word daar dan ook ver- wys na die boek van Jasher. Die boek van Jasher moet ook gesien word as deel van Die Bybel, en word met reg aangehaal in Young's Analytical Concordance. In die Afrikaanse vertaling [1933/53] word die boek van Jasher genoem "die boek van die Opregte" : Josua 10: 13 : 1933/53 Vertaling : "...Staan dit nie geskrywe in die boek van die Opregte nie ?..." Amplified Bible : "...Is not this written in the Book of Jasher ?..." Eng. Std. Version : "...Is this not written in the Book of Jashar ?..." N.W. Translation : "...Is it not written in the Book of Jashar ?..." King James Vers : "...Is not this written in the Book of Jasher ?..." Young's Concord : "...Is not this written in the Book of Jasher ?..." 2 Sam. 1: 18 : 1933/53 Vertaling : "...kyk, dit is geskrywe in die boek van die Opregte." Amplified Bible : "...Behold, it is written in the Book of Jasher :" Eng. Std. Version : "...behold, it is written in the Book of Jashar." N.W. Translation : "...Look ! It is written in the Book of Jashar :" King James Vers : "...Behold, it is written in the Book of Jasher :" Young's Concord : "...Behold, it is written in the Book of Jasher :" Die volgende uit die boek van Jasher : [Lees die hele Hoofstuk 73 hier onder aan] ... Jas. 73: 31 : "...and they gave him for a wife Adoniah the Cushite Queen, wife of Kikianus." 32. "...so that he came not to her, nor did he turn his eyes to her." 36. "Therefore Moses turned not his heart nor his eyes to the wife of Kikianus all the days that he reigned over Cush." Hier volg nou die meer volledige verslag in Engels : Moses marries an Ethiopian (Cushite) princess, named Adoniah. (3) According to later midrashic accounts, when Moses was a young man, one King Kikianus ruled over Ethiopia (Cush). War broke out between Ethiopia and the East, and Kikianus led his army into battle. He left an official named Balaam in charge of the capital city. But in the king's absence, Balaam won the people over to his side and usurped the throne. To prevent Kikianus's return, Balaam and his sons blockaded the city by building high walls and thick ramparts and digging canals. They also intro- duced swarms of venomous snakes that made it perilous to approach the city. Kikianus besieged the city but failed to breach the walls. For nine years, Kikianus camped outside his capital. When Moses fled Pharaoh, he happened upon Kikianus's camp, was invited to join his troops and eventually rose to the position of commander in chief : Moses, the legend goes, "exercised an attraction upon all that saw him, for he was slender like a palm- tree, his countenance shone as the morning sun and his strength was equal to a lion's." Eventually, Kikianus died, still in exile. The army "could find none except Moses fit to be their king." They crowned the Hebrew and offered him Kikianus's widow, Adoniah, as his bride. So, at age 27 Moses became king of Ethiopia. After recapturing the city from Balaam, he reigned for 40 years. But in his 40th year of rule, the midrash recounts, Adoniah publicly addressed her people : "What is this thing that you, the people of Ethiopia, have done these many days ? Surely you know that during the forty years this man has reigned over you, he has not approached me, nor has he worshiped the gods of Ethiopia. Now, therefore, let this man reign over you no more, for he is not of our flesh. Behold, Monarchos my son [by Kikianus] is grown up, let him reign over you. It is better for you to serve the son of your lord than a stranger, a slave of the king of Egypt." Moses was dismissed. Fearing to return to Pharaoh, he fled to Midian, where he would, of course, meet Zipporah. (3) This version is presented in the Book of Jasher Chapter 72 , 73 and 76. See also Louis Ginzberg, Legends of the Bible (Philadelphia : Jewish Publication Society, 1956), pp. 299-302; and Dewey M. Beegle, "Moses," The Anchor Bible Dictionary, 6 vols. (New York: Doubleday, 1992), vol. 4, p. 917. JASHER CHAPTER 73 [1-48] In the fifty-fifth year of the reign of Pharaoh king of Egypt, that is in the hundred and fifty-seventh year of the Israelites going down into Egypt, reigned Moses in Cush. Moses was twenty-seven years old when he began to reign over Cush, and forty years did he reign. And the Lord granted Moses favor and grace in the eyes of all the children of Cush, and the children of Cush loved him exceedingly, so Moses was favored by the Lord and by men. And in the seventh day of his reign, all the children of Cush assembled and came before Moses and bowed down to him to the ground. And all the children spoke together in the presence of the king, saying ; Give us counsel that we may see what is to be done to this city. For it is now nine years that we have been besieging round about the city, and have not seen our children and our wives. So the king answered them, saying : If you will hearken to my voice in all that I shall command you, then will the Lord give the city into our hands and we shall subdue it. For if we fight with them as in the former battle which we had with them before the death of Kikianus, many of us will fall down wounded as before. Now therefore behold here is counsel for you in this matter ; if you will hearken to my voice, then will the city be delivered into our hands. So all the forces answered the king, saying ; All that our lord shall command that will we do. And Moses said unto them ; Pass through and pro- claim a voice in the whole camp unto all the people, saying ; Thus says the king ; Go into the forest and bring with you of the young ones of the stork, each man a young one in his hand. And any person transgressing the word of the king, who shall not bring his young one, he shall die, and the king will take all belonging to him. And when you shall bring them they shall be in your keeping, you shall rear them until they grow up, and you shall teach them to dart upon, as is the way of the young ones of the hawk. So all the children of Cush heard the words of Moses, and they rose up and caused a proclamation to be issued throughout the camp, saying : Unto you, all the children of Cush, the king's order is, that you go all together to the forest, and catch there the young storks each man his young one in his hand, and you shall bring them home. And any person violating the order of the king shall die, and the king will take all that belongs to him. And all the people did so, and they went out to the wood and they climbed the fir trees and caught, each man a young one in his hand, all the young of the storks, and they brought them into the desert and reared them by order of the king, and they taught them to dart upon, similar to the young hawks. And after the young storks were reared, the king ordered them to be hungered for three days, and all the people did so. And on the third day, the king said unto them ; Strengthen yourselves and become valiant men, and put on each man his armor and gird on his sword upon him, and ride each man his horse and take each his young stork in his hand. And we will rise up and fight against the city at the place where the serpents are ; and all the people did as the king had ordered. And they took each man his young one in his hand, and they went away, and when they came to the place of the serpents the king said to them ; Send forth each man his young stork upon the serpents. And they sent forth each man his young stork at the king's order, and the young storks ran upon the serpents and they devoured them all and destroyed them out of that place. And when the king and people had seen that all the serpents were destroyed in that place, all the people set up a great shout. And they approached and fought against the city and took it and subdued it, and they entered the city. And there died on that day one thousand and one hundred men of the people of the city, all that inhabited the city, but of the people besieging not one died. So all the children of Cush went each to his home, to his wife and children and to all belonging to him. And Balaam the magician, when he saw that the city was taken, he opened the gate and he and his two sons and eight brothers fled and returned to Egypt to Pharaoh king of Egypt. They are the sorcerers and magicians who are mentioned in the book of the Law, standing against Moses when the Lord brought the plagues upon Egypt. So Moses took the city by his wisdom, and the children of Cush placed him on the throne instead of Kikianus king of Cush. And they placed the royal crown upon his head, and they gave him for a wife Adoniah the Cushite queen, wife of Kikianus. And Moses feared the Lord God of his fathers, so that he came not to her, nor did he turn his eyes to her. For Moses remembered how Abraham had made his servant Eliezer swear, saying unto him ; Thou shalt not take a woman from the daughters of Canaan for my son Isaac. Also what Isaac did when Jacob had fled from his brother, when he commanded him, saying ; Thou shalt not take a wife from the daughters of Canaan, nor make alliance with any of the children of Ham. For the Lord our God gave Ham the son of Noah, and his children and all his seed, as slaves to the children of Shem and to the children of Japheth, and unto their seed after them for slaves, forever. Therefore Moses turned not his heart nor his eyes to the wife of Kikianus all the days that he reigned over Cush. And Moses feared the Lord his God all his life, and Moses walked before the Lord in truth, with all his heart and soul, he turned not from the right way all the days of his life ; he declined not from the way either to the right or to the left, in which Abraham, Isaac and Jacob had walked. And Moses strengthened himself in the kingdom of the children of Cush, and he guided the children of Cush with his usual wisdom, and Moses pros- pered in his kingdom. And at that time Aram and the children of the east heard that Kikianus king of Cush had died, so Aram and the children of the east rebelled against Cush in those days. And Moses gathered all the children of Cush, a people very mighty, about thirty thousand men, and he went forth to fight with Aram and the children of the east. And they went at first to the children of the east, and when the children of the east heard their report, they went to meet them, and engaged in battle with them. And the war was severe against the children of the east, so the Lord gave all the children of the east into the hand of Moses, and about three hundred men fell down slain. And all the children of the east turned back and retreated, so Moses and the children of Cush followed them and subdued them, and put a tax upon them, as was their custom. So Moses and all the people with him passed from there to the land of Aram for battle. And the people of Aram also went to meet them, and they fought against them, and the Lord deli- vered them into the hand of Moses, and many of the men of Aram fell down wounded. And Aram also were subdued by Moses and the people of Cush, and also gave their usual tax. And Moses brought Aram and the children of the east under subjection to the children of Cush, and Moses and all the people who were with him, turned to the land of Cush. And Moses strengthened himself in the kingdom of the children of Cush, and the Lord was with him, and all the children of Cush were afraid of him. JW12 ------------------------------------------------------------ ------ Die res sal volg ... Jim
Die Bybel is maar die geloof van een groep mense, net soos Islam, Hindoes en Buddhisme tog was daar honderde sulke gelowe met hul eie gode. Maar soos met die Crusades was een geloof op ander volke gedwing so wie weet watter geloof is nou die regte een en wie se God is die magtigste. Ek glo tussen die volgelinge was daar dan ook 'n "My God is magtiger as joune" houding. So kan dit miskien gelei het tot al die wonderwerke wat ons lees, dooies lewendig maak, op water loop, groot vloede, met wolke opstyg en wat ook al wat die span volgelinge wil hul god beter maak as 'n ander. Soos bv die karakter van Jesus se geloof trek nader aan Buddhisme se St. Issa. Baie meen die verlore jare van Jesus het hy in die Ooste deurgebring en dat hy Buddhisme geleer het. Soos 'n etv program gewys het, het Jesus nooit met 'n wolk opgestyg nie, maar na sy kruisiging terug gegaan het na die ooste en gesterf het in sy 80's. Ek kan die die land se naam onthou nie maar volgens die legende van die land die graf van St. Issa/Jesus is daar. Kyk ook met die ontdekking van dinosaur gebeentes nerens kom dit in die Bybel voor nie maar wetenskaplikes het die bewyse. Kyk met NASA ook, hulle kom al hoe nader om lewe te ontdek op ander planete so as hulle eendag 'n planeet met lewe kry dan sal ons Bybel 'n hewige nok vat. Die Bybel self is 'n raaisel en baie kere weerspreek die Bybel se woorde mekaar, is dit omdat die Bybel gesktyf is deur mense en verdraai is oor diegene wat Mag wou he, hier kom Konstantyn sterk deur. Kyk hoe het ET ook dan Bybel verse aangehaal om sy punt te versterk. www.carm.org/lostbooks.htm http://www.bibleufo.com/anomlostbooks.htm "Jim Again..." wrote in message news:1140657720.420515.181880@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com.. . MOSES SE KUSITIESE VROU [Hierdie bybelstudie met die komplimente van JW12 vanaf Praag se GF] ... Num. 12: 1 : "En Mirjam en Aäron het teen Moses gespreek vanweë die Kusitiese vrou wat hy geneem het ; want hy het 'n Kusitiese vrou geneem." [1933/53 Vertaling]. Die hele Bybel spreek openlik en lynreg teen enige vorm van rasse-vermenging en/of integrasie. Israel was altyd streng voorgeskryf om NIE te vermeng nie. Hieroor is die Bybel konsekwent. Selfs Christus praat teen ver- menging in die boek van Openbaring. Ons liberale teoloë en Babiloniese Eenheidsleer-verkondigers misbruik graag "Moses se Kusitiese vrou" om vermenging en verbastering goed te keur, solank dit "in die Naam van Jesus geskied". Die skrywer sal vervolgens bo alle twyfel aandui dat Moses met hierdie Kusitiese vrou (Adoniah) slegs weens politiese redes getrou het ['n politiese troue], en dat Moses haar nooit aangeraak het, of enige kinders by haar gekry het nie. Eerstens : Let op na Mirjam en Aäron se reaksie en optrede omdat Moses 'n 'Kusitiese vrou' gehad het. - Hulle het teen Moses gespreek. Die vraag is : Waarom sou hulle dan teen Moses spreek indien dit moontlik aanvaarbaar sou wees vir 'n Israeliet om met een van die kinders van Gam ('n ander ras of etniese groep) te trou ? - Mirjam en Aäron was slegs oningelig oor Moses se Kusitiese vrou, en het nie onmiddelik besef dat dit slegs 'n politiese troue was nie. Lees verder ... DIE BOEK VAN JASHER [Jasher = "Upright"] Die boek van Jasher is 'n belangrike en onmisbare geskrif wat betroubare feite en geskiedenis vanaf Adam tot Joshua bevat. Dit is een van die boeke wat verkeerdelik uit Die Bybel uitge- laat is, omdat dit akkuraat oorenstem met die ooreenkomstige Bybelboeke van sy tyd. In Die Bybel word daar dan ook ver- wys na die boek van Jasher. Die boek van Jasher moet ook gesien word as deel van Die Bybel, en word met reg aangehaal in Young's Analytical Concordance. In die Afrikaanse vertaling [1933/53] word die boek van Jasher genoem "die boek van die Opregte" : Josua 10: 13 : 1933/53 Vertaling : "...Staan dit nie geskrywe in die boek van die Opregte nie ?..." Amplified Bible : "...Is not this written in the Book of Jasher ?..." Eng. Std. Version : "...Is this not written in the Book of Jashar ?..." N.W. Translation : "...Is it not written in the Book of Jashar ?..." King James Vers : "...Is not this written in the Book of Jasher ?..." Young's Concord : "...Is not this written in the Book of Jasher ?..." 2 Sam. 1: 18 : 1933/53 Vertaling : "...kyk, dit is geskrywe in die boek van die Opregte." Amplified Bible : "...Behold, it is written in the Book of Jasher :" Eng. Std. Version : "...behold, it is written in the Book of Jashar." N.W. Translation : "...Look ! It is written in the Book of Jashar :" King James Vers : "...Behold, it is written in the Book of Jasher :" Young's Concord : "...Behold, it is written in the Book of Jasher :" Die volgende uit die boek van Jasher : [Lees die hele Hoofstuk 73 hier onder aan] ... Jas. 73: 31 : "...and they gave him for a wife Adoniah the Cushite Queen, wife of Kikianus." 32. "...so that he came not to her, nor did he turn his eyes to her." 36. "Therefore Moses turned not his heart nor his eyes to the wife of Kikianus all the days that he reigned over Cush." Hier volg nou die meer volledige verslag in Engels : Moses marries an Ethiopian (Cushite) princess, named Adoniah. (3) According to later midrashic accounts, when Moses was a young man, one King Kikianus ruled over Ethiopia (Cush). War broke out between Ethiopia and the East, and Kikianus led his army into battle. He left an official named Balaam in charge of the capital city. But in the king's absence, Balaam won the people over to his side and usurped the throne. To prevent Kikianus's return, Balaam and his sons blockaded the city by building high walls and thick ramparts and digging canals. They also intro- duced swarms of venomous snakes that made it perilous to approach the city. Kikianus besieged the city but failed to breach the walls. For nine years, Kikianus camped outside his capital. When Moses fled Pharaoh, he happened upon Kikianus's camp, was invited to join his troops and eventually rose to the position of commander in chief : Moses, the legend goes, "exercised an attraction upon all that saw him, for he was slender like a palm- tree, his countenance shone as the morning sun and his strength was equal to a lion's." Eventually, Kikianus died, still in exile. The army "could find none except Moses fit to be their king." They crowned the Hebrew and offered him Kikianus's widow, Adoniah, as his bride. So, at age 27 Moses became king of Ethiopia. After recapturing the city from Balaam, he reigned for 40 years. But in his 40th year of rule, the midrash recounts, Adoniah publicly addressed her people : "What is this thing that you, the people of Ethiopia, have done these many days ? Surely you know that during the forty years this man has reigned over you, he has not approached me, nor has he worshiped the gods of Ethiopia. Now, therefore, let this man reign over you no more, for he is not of our flesh. Behold, Monarchos my son [by Kikianus] is grown up, let him reign over you. It is better for you to serve the son of your lord than a stranger, a slave of the king of Egypt." Moses was dismissed. Fearing to return to Pharaoh, he fled to Midian, where he would, of course, meet Zipporah. (3) This version is presented in the Book of Jasher Chapter 72 , 73 and 76. See also Louis Ginzberg, Legends of the Bible (Philadelphia : Jewish Publication Society, 1956), pp. 299-302; and Dewey M. Beegle, "Moses," The Anchor Bible Dictionary, 6 vols. (New York: Doubleday, 1992), vol. 4, p. 917. JASHER CHAPTER 73 [1-48] In the fifty-fifth year of the reign of Pharaoh king of Egypt, that is in the hundred and fifty-seventh year of the Israelites going down into Egypt, reigned Moses in Cush. Moses was twenty-seven years old when he began to reign over Cush, and forty years did he reign. And the Lord granted Moses favor and grace in the eyes of all the children of Cush, and the children of Cush loved him exceedingly, so Moses was favored by the Lord and by men. And in the seventh day of his reign, all the children of Cush assembled and came before Moses and bowed down to him to the ground. And all the children spoke together in the presence of the king, saying ; Give us counsel that we may see what is to be done to this city. For it is now nine years that we have been besieging round about the city, and have not seen our children and our wives. So the king answered them, saying : If you will hearken to my voice in all that I shall command you, then will the Lord give the city into our hands and we shall subdue it. For if we fight with them as in the former battle which we had with them before the death of Kikianus, many of us will fall down wounded as before. Now therefore behold here is counsel for you in this matter ; if you will hearken to my voice, then will the city be delivered into our hands. So all the forces answered the king, saying ; All that our lord shall command that will we do. And Moses said unto them ; Pass through and pro- claim a voice in the whole camp unto all the people, saying ; Thus says the king ; Go into the forest and bring with you of the young ones of the stork, each man a young one in his hand. And any person transgressing the word of the king, who shall not bring his young one, he shall die, and the king will take all belonging to him. And when you shall bring them they shall be in your keeping, you shall rear them until they grow up, and you shall teach them to dart upon, as is the way of the young ones of the hawk. So all the children of Cush heard the words of Moses, and they rose up and caused a proclamation to be issued throughout the camp, saying : Unto you, all the children of Cush, the king's order is, that you go all together to the forest, and catch there the young storks each man his young one in his hand, and you shall bring them home. And any person violating the order of the king shall die, and the king will take all that belongs to him. And all the people did so, and they went out to the wood and they climbed the fir trees and caught, each man a young one in his hand, all the young of the storks, and they brought them into the desert and reared them by order of the king, and they taught them to dart upon, similar to the young hawks. And after the young storks were reared, the king ordered them to be hungered for three days, and all the people did so. And on the third day, the king said unto them ; Strengthen yourselves and become valiant men, and put on each man his armor and gird on his sword upon him, and ride each man his horse and take each his young stork in his hand. And we will rise up and fight against the city at the place where the serpents are ; and all the people did as the king had ordered. And they took each man his young one in his hand, and they went away, and when they came to the place of the serpents the king said to them ; Send forth each man his young stork upon the serpents. And they sent forth each man his young stork at the king's order, and the young storks ran upon the serpents and they devoured them all and destroyed them out of that place. And when the king and people had seen that all the serpents were destroyed in that place, all the people set up a great shout. And they approached and fought against the city and took it and subdued it, and they entered the city. And there died on that day one thousand and one hundred men of the people of the city, all that inhabited the city, but of the people besieging not one died. So all the children of Cush went each to his home, to his wife and children and to all belonging to him. And Balaam the magician, when he saw that the city was taken, he opened the gate and he and his two sons and eight brothers fled and returned to Egypt to Pharaoh king of Egypt. They are the sorcerers and magicians who are mentioned in the book of the Law, standing against Moses when the Lord brought the plagues upon Egypt. So Moses took the city by his wisdom, and the children of Cush placed him on the throne instead of Kikianus king of Cush. And they placed the royal crown upon his head, and they gave him for a wife Adoniah the Cushite queen, wife of Kikianus. And Moses feared the Lord God of his fathers, so that he came not to her, nor did he turn his eyes to her. For Moses remembered how Abraham had made his servant Eliezer swear, saying unto him ; Thou shalt not take a woman from the daughters of Canaan for my son Isaac. Also what Isaac did when Jacob had fled from his brother, when he commanded him, saying ; Thou shalt not take a wife from the daughters of Canaan, nor make alliance with any of the children of Ham. For the Lord our God gave Ham the son of Noah, and his children and all his seed, as slaves to the children of Shem and to the children of Japheth, and unto their seed after them for slaves, forever. Therefore Moses turned not his heart nor his eyes to the wife of Kikianus all the days that he reigned over Cush. And Moses feared the Lord his God all his life, and Moses walked before the Lord in truth, with all his heart and soul, he turned not from the right way all the days of his life ; he declined not from the way either to the right or to the left, in which Abraham, Isaac and Jacob had walked. And Moses strengthened himself in the kingdom of the children of Cush, and he guided the children of Cush with his usual wisdom, and Moses pros- pered in his kingdom. And at that time Aram and the children of the east heard that Kikianus king of Cush had died, so Aram and the children of the east rebelled against Cush in those days. And Moses gathered all the children of Cush, a people very mighty, about thirty thousand men, and he went forth to fight with Aram and the children of the east. And they went at first to the children of the east, and when the children of the east heard their report, they went to meet them, and engaged in battle with them. And the war was severe against the children of the east, so the Lord gave all the children of the east into the hand of Moses, and about three hundred men fell down slain. And all the children of the east turned back and retreated, so Moses and the children of Cush followed them and subdued them, and put a tax upon them, as was their custom. So Moses and all the people with him passed from there to the land of Aram for battle. And the people of Aram also went to meet them, and they fought against them, and the Lord deli- vered them into the hand of Moses, and many of the men of Aram fell down wounded. And Aram also were subdued by Moses and the people of Cush, and also gave their usual tax. And Moses brought Aram and the children of the east under subjection to the children of Cush, and Moses and all the people who were with him, turned to the land of Cush. And Moses strengthened himself in the kingdom of the children of Cush, and the Lord was with him, and all the children of Cush were afraid of him. JW12 ------------------------------------------------------------ ------ Die res sal volg ... Jim
Jim het jy nog verlore boeke? "Deneile" skryf in boodskap news:dtjklt$ehi$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net... > Die Bybel is maar die geloof van een groep mense, net soos Islam, Hindoes > en Buddhisme tog was daar honderde sulke gelowe met hul eie gode. Maar > soos met die Crusades was een geloof op ander volke gedwing so wie weet > watter geloof is nou die regte een en wie se God is die magtigste. Ek glo > tussen die volgelinge was daar dan ook 'n "My God is magtiger as joune" > houding. So kan dit miskien gelei het tot al die wonderwerke wat ons lees, > dooies lewendig maak, op water loop, groot vloede, met wolke opstyg en wat > ook al wat die span volgelinge wil hul god beter maak as 'n ander. Soos > bv die karakter van Jesus se geloof trek nader aan Buddhisme se St. Issa. > Baie meen die verlore jare van Jesus het hy in die Ooste deurgebring en > dat hy Buddhisme geleer het. Soos 'n etv program gewys het, het Jesus > nooit met 'n wolk opgestyg nie, maar na sy kruisiging terug gegaan het na > die ooste en gesterf het in sy 80's. Ek kan die die land se naam onthou > nie maar volgens die legende van die land die graf van St. Issa/Jesus is > daar. Kyk ook met die ontdekking van dinosaur gebeentes nerens kom dit in > die Bybel voor nie maar wetenskaplikes het die bewyse. Kyk met NASA ook, > hulle kom al hoe nader om lewe te ontdek op ander planete so as hulle > eendag 'n planeet met lewe kry dan sal ons Bybel 'n hewige nok vat. Die > Bybel self is 'n raaisel en baie kere weerspreek die Bybel se woorde > mekaar, is dit omdat die Bybel gesktyf is deur mense en verdraai is oor > diegene wat Mag wou he, hier kom Konstantyn sterk deur. Kyk hoe het ET > ook dan Bybel verse aangehaal om sy punt te versterk. > > www.carm.org/lostbooks.htm http://www.bibleufo.com/anomlostbooks.htm > > > > > > > "Jim Again..." wrote in message > news:1140657720.420515.181880@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com.. . > MOSES SE KUSITIESE VROU > > [Hierdie bybelstudie met die komplimente van JW12 vanaf > Praag se GF] ... > > > Num. 12: 1 : "En Mirjam en Aäron het teen Moses gespreek > vanweë die Kusitiese vrou wat hy geneem het ; want hy het > 'n Kusitiese vrou geneem." [1933/53 Vertaling]. > > Die hele Bybel spreek openlik en lynreg teen enige vorm > van rasse-vermenging en/of integrasie. Israel was altyd > streng voorgeskryf om NIE te vermeng nie. Hieroor is > die Bybel konsekwent. Selfs Christus praat teen ver- > menging in die boek van Openbaring. > > Ons liberale teoloë en Babiloniese Eenheidsleer-verkondigers > misbruik graag "Moses se Kusitiese vrou" om vermenging en > verbastering goed te keur, solank dit "in die Naam van Jesus > geskied". > > Die skrywer sal vervolgens bo alle twyfel aandui dat Moses > met hierdie Kusitiese vrou (Adoniah) slegs weens politiese > redes getrou het ['n politiese troue], en dat Moses haar nooit > aangeraak het, of enige kinders by haar gekry het nie. > > Eerstens : Let op na Mirjam en Aäron se reaksie en optrede > omdat Moses 'n 'Kusitiese vrou' gehad het. - Hulle het teen > Moses gespreek. Die vraag is : Waarom sou hulle dan teen > Moses spreek indien dit moontlik aanvaarbaar sou wees vir > 'n Israeliet om met een van die kinders van Gam ('n ander > ras of etniese groep) te trou ? - Mirjam en Aäron was slegs > oningelig oor Moses se Kusitiese vrou, en het nie onmiddelik > besef dat dit slegs 'n politiese troue was nie. > > Lees verder ... > > DIE BOEK VAN JASHER [Jasher = "Upright"] > > Die boek van Jasher is 'n belangrike en onmisbare geskrif wat > betroubare feite en geskiedenis vanaf Adam tot Joshua bevat. > Dit is een van die boeke wat verkeerdelik uit Die Bybel uitge- > laat is, omdat dit akkuraat oorenstem met die ooreenkomstige > Bybelboeke van sy tyd. In Die Bybel word daar dan ook ver- > wys na die boek van Jasher. > > Die boek van Jasher moet ook gesien word as deel van Die > Bybel, en word met reg aangehaal in Young's Analytical > Concordance. In die Afrikaanse vertaling [1933/53] word > die boek van Jasher genoem "die boek van die Opregte" : > > Josua 10: 13 : > > 1933/53 Vertaling : "...Staan dit nie geskrywe in die boek van > die Opregte nie ?..." > Amplified Bible : "...Is not this written in the Book of Jasher ?..." > Eng. Std. Version : "...Is this not written in the Book of Jashar ?..." > N.W. Translation : "...Is it not written in the Book of Jashar ?..." > King James Vers : "...Is not this written in the Book of Jasher ?..." > Young's Concord : "...Is not this written in the Book of Jasher ?..." > > 2 Sam. 1: 18 : > > 1933/53 Vertaling : "...kyk, dit is geskrywe in die boek van die > Opregte." > Amplified Bible : "...Behold, it is written in the Book of Jasher :" > Eng. Std. Version : "...behold, it is written in the Book of Jashar." > N.W. Translation : "...Look ! It is written in the Book of Jashar :" > King James Vers : "...Behold, it is written in the Book of Jasher :" > Young's Concord : "...Behold, it is written in the Book of Jasher :" > > Die volgende uit die boek van Jasher : [Lees die hele Hoofstuk 73 > hier onder aan] ... > > Jas. 73: 31 : "...and they gave him for a wife Adoniah the Cushite > Queen, wife of Kikianus." > 32. "...so that he came not to her, nor did he turn his eyes to her." > 36. "Therefore Moses turned not his heart nor his eyes to the wife > of Kikianus all the days that he reigned over Cush." > > > Hier volg nou die meer volledige verslag in Engels : > > Moses marries an Ethiopian (Cushite) princess, named Adoniah. > (3) According to later midrashic accounts, when Moses was a > young man, one King Kikianus ruled over Ethiopia (Cush). > > War broke out between Ethiopia and the East, and Kikianus led > his army into battle. He left an official named Balaam in charge of > the capital city. But in the king's absence, Balaam won the people > over to his side and usurped the throne. To prevent Kikianus's > return, Balaam and his sons blockaded the city by building high > walls and thick ramparts and digging canals. They also intro- > duced swarms of venomous snakes that made it perilous to > approach the city. Kikianus besieged the city but failed to > breach the walls. For nine years, Kikianus camped > outside his capital. > > When Moses fled Pharaoh, he happened upon Kikianus's camp, > was invited to join his troops and eventually rose to the position > of commander in chief : Moses, the legend goes, "exercised an > attraction upon all that saw him, for he was slender like a palm- > tree, his countenance shone as the morning sun and his strength > was equal to a lion's." > > Eventually, Kikianus died, still in exile. The army "could find > none except Moses fit to be their king." They crowned the > Hebrew and offered him Kikianus's widow, Adoniah, as his > bride. So, at age 27 Moses became king of Ethiopia. After > recapturing the city from Balaam, he reigned for 40 years. > > But in his 40th year of rule, the midrash recounts, Adoniah > publicly addressed her people : "What is this thing that you, > the people of Ethiopia, have done these many days ? > > Surely you know that during the forty years this man has > reigned over you, he has not approached me, nor has he > worshiped the gods of Ethiopia. Now, therefore, let this > man reign over you no more, for he is not of our flesh. > > Behold, Monarchos my son [by Kikianus] is grown up, > let him reign over you. It is better for you to serve the > son of your lord than a stranger, a slave of the king of > Egypt." > > Moses was dismissed. Fearing to return to Pharaoh, > he fled to Midian, where he would, of course, meet > Zipporah. > > (3) This version is presented in the Book of Jasher Chapter > 72 , 73 and 76. See also Louis Ginzberg, Legends of the > Bible (Philadelphia : Jewish Publication Society, 1956), pp. > 299-302; and Dewey M. Beegle, "Moses," The Anchor > Bible Dictionary, 6 vols. (New York: Doubleday, 1992), > vol. 4, p. 917. > > > JASHER CHAPTER 73 [1-48] > > In the fifty-fifth year of the reign of Pharaoh king of > Egypt, that is in the hundred and fifty-seventh year > of the Israelites going down into Egypt, reigned > Moses in Cush. > > Moses was twenty-seven years old when he began to > reign over Cush, and forty years did he reign. And the > Lord granted Moses favor and grace in the eyes of all > the children of Cush, and the children of Cush loved > him exceedingly, so Moses was favored by the Lord > and by men. > > And in the seventh day of his reign, all the children of > Cush assembled and came before Moses and bowed > down to him to the ground. And all the children spoke > together in the presence of the king, saying ; Give us > counsel that we may see what is to be done to this city. > > For it is now nine years that we have been besieging > round about the city, and have not seen our children > and our wives. > > So the king answered them, saying : If you will hearken > to my voice in all that I shall command you, then will the > Lord give the city into our hands and we shall subdue it. > > For if we fight with them as in the former battle which > we had with them before the death of Kikianus, many > of us will fall down wounded as before. > > Now therefore behold here is counsel for you in this > matter ; if you will hearken to my voice, then will the > city be delivered into our hands. So all the forces > answered the king, saying ; All that our lord shall > command that will we do. > > And Moses said unto them ; Pass through and pro- > claim a voice in the whole camp unto all the people, > saying ; Thus says the king ; Go into the forest and > bring with you of the young ones of the stork, each > man a young one in his hand. > > And any person transgressing the word of the king, > who shall not bring his young one, he shall die, and > the king will take all belonging to him. > > And when you shall bring them they shall be in your > keeping, you shall rear them until they grow up, and > you shall teach them to dart upon, as is the way of > the young ones of the hawk. > > So all the children of Cush heard the words of Moses, > and they rose up and caused a proclamation to be > issued throughout the camp, saying : Unto you, all > the children of Cush, the king's order is, that you > go all together to the forest, and catch there the > young storks each man his young one in his hand, > and you shall bring them home. > > And any person violating the order of the king shall > die, and the king will take all that belongs to him. > > And all the people did so, and they went out to the > wood and they climbed the fir trees and caught, > each man a young one in his hand, all the young > of the storks, and they brought them into the > desert and reared them by order of the king, > and they taught them to dart upon, similar to > the young hawks. > > And after the young storks were reared, the king > ordered them to be hungered for three days, and > all the people did so. > > And on the third day, the king said unto them ; > Strengthen yourselves and become valiant men, > and put on each man his armor and gird on his > sword upon him, and ride each man his horse > and take each his young stork in his hand. > > And we will rise up and fight against the city at > the place where the serpents are ; and all the > people did as the king had ordered. > > And they took each man his young one in his > hand, and they went away, and when they came > to the place of the serpents the king said to them ; > Send forth each man his young stork upon the > serpents. > > And they sent forth each man his young stork at > the king's order, and the young storks ran upon > the serpents and they devoured them all and > destroyed them out of that place. > > And when the king and people had seen that all > the serpents were destroyed in that place, all the > people set up a great shout. > > And they approached and fought against the city > and took it and subdued it, and they entered the > city. And there died on that day one thousand > and one hundred men of the people of the city, > all that inhabited the city, but of the people > besieging not one died. > > So all the children of Cush went each to his home, > to his wife and children and to all belonging to him. > > And Balaam the magician, when he saw that the > city was taken, he opened the gate and he and > his two sons and eight brothers fled and returned > to Egypt to Pharaoh king of Egypt. > > They are the sorcerers and magicians who are > mentioned in the book of the Law, standing > against Moses when the Lord brought the > plagues upon Egypt. > > So Moses took the city by his wisdom, and the > children of Cush placed him on the throne instead > of Kikianus king of Cush. > > And they placed the royal crown upon his head, > and they gave him for a wife Adoniah the Cushite > queen, wife of Kikianus. > > And Moses feared the Lord God of his fathers, > so that he came not to her, nor did he turn his > eyes to her. For Moses remembered how > Abraham had made his servant Eliezer swear, > saying unto him ; Thou shalt not take a woman > from the daughters of Canaan for my son Isaac. > > Also what Isaac did when Jacob had fled from > his brother, when he commanded him, saying ; > Thou shalt not take a wife from the daughters > of Canaan, nor make alliance with any of the > children of Ham. > > For the Lord our God gave Ham the son of > Noah, and his children and all his seed, as > slaves to the children of Shem and to the > children of Japheth, and unto their seed > after them for slaves, forever. > > Therefore Moses turned not his heart nor his > eyes to the wife of Kikianus all the days that > he reigned over Cush. > > And Moses feared the Lord his God all his life, > and Moses walked before the Lord in truth, with > all his heart and soul, he turned not from the right > way all the days of his life ; he declined not from > the way either to the right or to the left, in which > Abraham, Isaac and Jacob had walked. > > And Moses strengthened himself in the kingdom > of the children of Cush, and he guided the children > of Cush with his usual wisdom, and Moses pros- > pered in his kingdom. > > And at that time Aram and the children of the east > heard that Kikianus king of Cush had died, so > Aram and the children of the east rebelled against > Cush in those days. > > And Moses gathered all the children of Cush, a > people very mighty, about thirty thousand men, > and he went forth to fight with Aram and the > children of the east. > > And they went at first to the children of the east, > and when the children of the east heard their > report, they went to meet them, and engaged > in battle with them. > > And the war was severe against the children of > the east, so the Lord gave all the children of the > east into the hand of Moses, and about three > hundred men fell down slain. > > And all the children of the east turned back and > retreated, so Moses and the children of Cush > followed them and subdued them, and put a > tax upon them, as was their custom. > > So Moses and all the people with him passed > from there to the land of Aram for battle. > > And the people of Aram also went to meet them, > and they fought against them, and the Lord deli- > vered them into the hand of Moses, and many > of the men of Aram fell down wounded. > > And Aram also were subdued by Moses and the > people of Cush, and also gave their usual tax. > > And Moses brought Aram and the children of the > east under subjection to the children of Cush, and > Moses and all the people who were with him, > turned to the land of Cush. > > And Moses strengthened himself in the kingdom > of the children of Cush, and the Lord was with > him, and all the children of Cush were afraid of > him. > > > JW12 > > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------ > > Die res sal volg ... > > Jim >
"Deneile" skryf in boodskap news:dtjklt$ehi$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net... > Soos 'n etv program gewys het, het Jesus nooit met 'n wolk opgestyg nie, > maar na sy kruisiging terug gegaan het na die ooste en gesterf het in sy > 80's. Well, as "etv" so sê, dan is dit sekerlik waar. "etv" is after all die begin en einde van kennis en wysheid... Basjan
Jy lees weereerns verkeerd en maak verkeerde opsomming, 'n program op e-tv het gewys! Dit is nie die mening van e-tv nie, maar in die end hang dit van die kyker af hoe hy reageer op die program of dit tas sy denke aan of hy skryf dit af as snert. "Basjan" skryf in boodskap news:dtk018$mn5$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu... > "Deneile" wrote in message > news:dtjklt$ehi$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net... >> Soos 'n etv program gewys het, het Jesus nooit met 'n wolk opgestyg nie, >> maar na sy kruisiging terug gegaan het na die ooste en gesterf het in sy >> 80's. > > Well, as "etv" so sê, dan is dit sekerlik waar. "etv" is after all die > begin en einde van kennis en wysheid... > > Basjan >
"Deneile" skryf in boodskap news:dtk0s9$mc1$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net... > Jy lees weereerns verkeerd en maak verkeerde opsomming, 'n program op e-tv > het gewys! Dit is nie die mening van e-tv nie, maar in die end hang dit > van die kyker af hoe hy reageer op die program of dit tas sy denke aan of > hy skryf dit af as snert. Beste Deneile, Ek het maar jou sin hieronder aangehaal en daarop gereageer: >> Soos 'n etv program gewys het, het Jesus nooit met 'n wolk opgestyg nie, >> maar na sy kruisiging terug gegaan het na die ooste en gesterf het in sy >> 80's. Natuurlik is dit oorgelaat aan die kyker om te beoordeel, maar volgende week maak etv 'n program oor aliens wat regtig tussen ons rondloop, ala Men in Black. Ek sal so 'n program op dieselfde vlak plaas en beoordeel... Terloops, wat is jou redenasie met: >> Kyk met NASA ook, hulle kom al hoe nader om lewe te ontdek op ander >> planete so as hulle eendag 'n planeet met lewe kry dan sal ons Bybel 'n >> hewige nok vat. Hoekom sal die Bybel 'n knok vat? Staan dit êrens geskryf dat ons die enigste lewe in die heelal is? Of dat God beperk is? Baie groete Basjan
"Jim Again..." wrote < > DIE BOEK VAN JASHER [Jasher = "Upright"] > Die boek van Jasher is 'n belangrike en onmisbare geskrif wat > betroubare feite en geskiedenis vanaf Adam tot Joshua bevat. > Dit is een van die boeke wat verkeerdelik uit Die Bybel uitge- > laat is, omdat dit akkuraat oorenstem met die ooreenkomstige > Bybelboeke van sy tyd. In Die Bybel word daar dan ook ver- > wys na die boek van Jasher. Wie het besluit dit moenie in die Bybel wees nie? Dom
"Dom" skryf: > > "Jim Again..." wrote > > DIE BOEK VAN JASHER [Jasher = "Upright"] > >> Die boek van Jasher is 'n belangrike en onmisbare geskrif wat >> betroubare feite en geskiedenis vanaf Adam tot Joshua bevat. >> Dit is een van die boeke wat verkeerdelik uit Die Bybel uitge- >> laat is, omdat dit akkuraat oorenstem met die ooreenkomstige >> Bybelboeke van sy tyd. In Die Bybel word daar dan ook ver- >> wys na die boek van Jasher. > > Wie het besluit dit moenie in die Bybel wees nie? > > Dom Uit Wikipedia: Sefer haYashar (midrash), a Hebrew midrash known in English translation mostly as The Book of Jasher. According to the Encyclopaedia Judaica, Volume 14, p. 1099: "probably written in the 13th century." But scholars have proposed various dates between the 9th century and 16th century. The Hebrew version was printed in Venice in 1625 and the introduction refers to an earlier 1552 edition in Naples of which neither trace or other mention has been found. The printer Joseph ben Samuel claimed the work was copied by a scribe named Jacob the son of Atyah from an ancient manuscript whose letters could hardly be made out. The book seems to pretend to be the otherwise lost Sefer HaYashar mentioned in Joshua and 2 Samuel and covers Biblical history from the creation of Adam and Eve to a summary of the initial Israelite conquest of Canaan in the beginning of the book of Judges. It contains references that fit those cited in the Biblical texts, both the reference about the sun and moon found in Joshua and also the reference in 2 Samuel (in the Hebrew but not in the Septuagint) to teaching the Sons of Judah to fight with the bow. This appears in Jasher 56:9 among the last words of Jacob to his son Judah: Only teach thy sons the bow and all weapons of war, in order that they may fight the battles of their brother who will rule over his enemies. But the book in its entirety cannot be so old as shown by chapter 10 covering the descendants of Noah which even contains medieval names for territories and countries, perhaps mostly obviously Franza for France and Lumbardi in Italia for Lombardy. Most of its extra-Biblical accounts are found in nearly the same form in either other medieval compilations, or in the Talmud, or in other midrash or in Arabic sources. For example it contains the common tale that Lamech and his son Jabal accidentally killed Cain, thus requiting his wickedness for slaying Abel. The Arabic connections suggests it was written by a Jew who lived in Spain or southern Italy. The work was used extensively but not especially more than many other sources in Louis Ginzberg's Legends of the Jews. In the 19th century, Moses Samuel of Liverpool, England, was given a copy of the Hebrew work and became convinced that the core of this work truly was the self-same Book of the Upright referenced in Hebrew scriptures. He translated it into English and 1839 sold it to Mordecai Manuel Noah, a Jewish New York publisher who published it the following year. Samuel's name did not appear on the translation. "I did not put my name to it as my Patron and myself differed about its authenticity", Samuel later explained. Yet M. M. Noah did enthusiastically claim that the historian Josephus had stated on the Book of Jasher: "by this book are to be understood certain records kept in some safe place on purpose, giving an account of what happened among the Hebrews from year to year, and called Jasher or the upright, on account of the fidelity of the annals." No such statement is found in Josephus' works. Noah's published book also contained within it endorsements by four top American Hebrew scholars of the day, all of whom praised the quality of the translation but said nothing to indicate they believed it to be the work referred to in Joshua and 2 Samuel. Indeed one of them, Samuel H. Turner, referred to the "Rabbinical writer" and another, George Bush, declared: The work itself is evidently composed in the purest Rabbinical Hebrew, with a large intermixture of the Biblical idiom, ... Joseph Smith, Jr., founder of Mormonism and the Latter Day Saint movement wrote somewhat diffidently in Times and Seasons, Sept. 1, 1842, in reference to the patriarch Abraham: "the book of Jasher, which has not been disproved as a bad author, says he was cast into the fire of the Chaldeans". (External Link: [Times and Seasons, Volume 3, Number 21 (http://www.centerplace.org/history/ts/v3n21.htm)].) Subsequently copyright of the translation was obtained by J. H. Parry & Company in Salt Lake City who published it in 1887. It has continued to be held in high repute by many Mormons but is not officially endorsed. It is sometimes confused with the very different Book of Jasher (Pseudo-Jasher), which is an obvious forgery. For other works of the same name see Sefer haYashar. Bibliography Hebrew: Sefer ha-Yashar, ed. Rosenthal, Berlin, 1898, English translation: Book of Jasher Referred to in Joshua and Second Samuel (1887), edited by J. H. Parry (Kessinger Publishing Company, 1998). ISBN 0766102602 The Authentic Annals of the Early Hebrews: Also Known as the Book of Jasher, edited by Wayne Simpson (Morris Publishing (NE), 1995) (Hardcover - January 1995) ISBN 1575029626 hardcover; (Lightcatcher Books, 2003) ISBN 0971938830 paperback External links to Samuel's English translation Plain text: Cumorah Project: LDS and World Classics (http://www.cumorah.com/etexts/jasher.txt) (Includes translator's preface.) HTML: Christian Etherial Library: Anonymous (http://www.ccel.org/a/anonymous/jasher/home.html) (With graphic reproduction of translator's preface.) Pseudepigrapha (http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/pseudepigrapha/jasher.html) or Sacred Texts: Apocrypha (http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/index.htm) or POEE: Other Relgions: Cult of the One God ( http://www.poee.org/documents/Other_Religions/Cult_of_the_On e_God/jasher-html.htm) PDF: Dubroom: Books
"Dom" skryf: > > "Jim Again..." wrote > > DIE BOEK VAN JASHER [Jasher = "Upright"] > >> Die boek van Jasher is 'n belangrike en onmisbare geskrif wat >> betroubare feite en geskiedenis vanaf Adam tot Joshua bevat. >> Dit is een van die boeke wat verkeerdelik uit Die Bybel uitge- >> laat is, omdat dit akkuraat oorenstem met die ooreenkomstige >> Bybelboeke van sy tyd. In Die Bybel word daar dan ook ver- >> wys na die boek van Jasher. Die Jasher boek is 'n Midrash - 'n KOMMENTAAR dus. Volgens die woordeboek: "Any of a group of Jewish commentaries on the Hebrew Scriptures compiled between A.D. 400 and 1200 and based on exegesis, parable, and haggadic legend. [Hebrew midraÂ, commentary, explanation, Midrash, from daraÂ, to seek, study.] " Midrash (mid'räsh) [Heb.,=to examine, to investigate], verse by verse interpretation of Hebrew Scriptures, consisting of homily and exegesis, by Jewish teachers since about 400 B.C. Distinction is made between Midrash halakah, dealing with the legal portions of Scripture, and Midrash haggada, dealing with biblical lore. Midrashic exposition of both kinds appears throughout the Talmud. Individual midrashic commentaries were composed by rabbis after the 2d cent. A.D. up to the Middle Ages, and they were mostly of an aggadic nature, following the order of the scriptural text. Important among them are the Midrash Rabbah, a collection of commentaries on the Torah and the Five Scrolls (the Song of Songs, Esther, Ruth, Lamentations, Ecclesiastes), and the Pesikta Midrashim, concerning the festivals. This body of rabbinic literature contains the earliest speculative thought in the Jewish tradition. Bibliography See H. L. Strack, Introduction to the Talmud and Midrash (1931, repr. 1969); L. Ginzberg, Legends of the Bible (1956); N. N. Glatzer, Hammer on the Rock (1962).
On 22 Feb 2006 17:22:00 -0800, "Jim Again..." wrote: > MOSES SE KUSITIESE VROU > > [Hierdie bybelstudie met die komplimente van JW12 vanaf > Praag se GF] ... > > > Num. 12: 1 : "En Mirjam en Aäron het teen Moses gespreek > vanweë die Kusitiese vrou wat hy geneem het ; want hy het > 'n Kusitiese vrou geneem." [1933/53 Vertaling]. > > Die hele Bybel spreek openlik en lynreg teen enige vorm > van rasse-vermenging en/of integrasie. Ja wel, ons is daai mense met wie die Jode nie mag meng nie.