Ek wonder baie keer waarom veral Afrikaanses so lief is om te "top post". Mens sien dit veral in hierdie groep, en ander Afrikaanse gespreksgroepe. Een van die redes kan dalk wees omdat die meeste mense wat hier deelneem nie juis baie bekend is met die Internet en veral Netiket nie, maar die gewone ou boere halstarrige hardkoppigheid is dalk 'n meer waarskynlike rede? Hoe dit ookal sy, ek weet hierdie is geen akademiese gesprekslys nie (duh!!), maar dalk sal iemand hierdie boodskap wat deur iemand anders geskryf was, ook insiggewend vind. From: Charles Muller Subject: Netiquette: Top Posting "Top posting," a sort of non-style which is commonly seen in everyday e-mail correspondence, occurs when you respond to a prior post by simply hitting your reply button, writing at the top of the new message screen, and leave the remnants of the prior message(s) at the bottom unreferenced. There are a few reasons why this is seen to be undesirable--especially on an academic discussion list--foremost among these being the problems that are created in the process of archiving, and the accessing of information by subsequent web searches. What happens is that a year or so later, when someone looks for a key phrase in a web search, one finds remnants of the same post over and over in different messages in a confusing manner. Top posting is also considered by many to be impolite even in personal correspondence, since, when top posting is avoided, the readers of your messages do not need to wonder whether important content is to be found below your signature. Therefore, when you write in response to a post on this forum, please compose your message so that there is no additional text after your own signature and then send it out. You can either delete the old portions of the original post/prior discussion, or skillfully incorporate them into your own response. The only exception to this case is when the remainder of the message is specifically referenced data, or someone else's message, that you are forwarding. While this distinction in style is still largely unknown on many Humanities-oriented lists, bottom-posting is the de facto (and often strictly-enforced) standard on most IT-related technical lists, the participants of which often have a much longer history in professional e-mail correspondence. You can find quite a bit on this topic with a simple Google search.
On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 12:10:11 -0500, Katryn wrote: > Ek wonder baie keer waarom veral Afrikaanses so lief is om te "top > post". Mens sien dit veral in hierdie groep, en ander Afrikaanse > gespreksgroepe. bla bla bla > > waarom is hierdie brief nie getoppost met die woorde: "volg die voorbeeld van ons dierbare DD..." of sò iets nie? DD
Volg die voorbeeld van ons dierbare DD... On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 20:05:31 +0200, DD wrote: > On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 12:10:11 -0500, Katryn > wrote: > >> Ek wonder baie keer waarom veral Afrikaanses so lief is om te "top >> post". Mens sien dit veral in hierdie groep, en ander Afrikaanse >> gespreksgroepe. > > bla bla bla >> > > waarom is hierdie brief nie getoppost met die woorde: > "volg die voorbeeld van ons dierbare DD..." > of sò iets nie? > > DD > Um....hoe lyk dinge in Roodepoort deesdae? ;-)))
in my beskeidenheid het ek vir geen oomblik gedink dat dit raakgesien sal word nie. , Katryn wrote: > Volg die voorbeeld van ons dierbare DD... > > On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 20:05:31 +0200, DD wrote: > >> On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 12:10:11 -0500, Katryn >> wrote: >>> Ek wonder baie keer waarom veral Afrikaanses so lief is om te "top >>> post". Mens sien dit veral in hierdie groep, en ander Afrikaanse >>> gespreksgroepe. >> bla bla bla > >>> >> waarom is hierdie brief nie getoppost met die woorde: >> "volg die voorbeeld van ons dierbare DD..." >> of sò iets nie? >> DD > > Um....hoe lyk dinge in Roodepoort deesdae? > ;-))) Van Roodepoort gepraat... sowat 5 ure gelede die ervaring gehad dat 'n leeu speels aan 'n skoen begin begin kou het. My voet was daarin. Ek het die speelding natuurlik onmiddelik op 'n ander plek geplaas:-))) DD
Kwessie van smaak... Ek verkies nuusgroeppostings bo aan! Ek soek nie graag nie... Wat ek wel bietjie verag is antwoorde sonder enige quote van waarop geantwoord word. Max____________________________ "Katryn" skryf in boodskap news:t7cq10d85bbkka8bnc05ha0l3j4t2houk1@4ax.com... > Ek wonder baie keer waarom veral Afrikaanses so lief is om te "top > post". Mens sien dit veral in hierdie groep, en ander Afrikaanse > gespreksgroepe. > Een van die redes kan dalk wees omdat die meeste mense wat hier > deelneem nie juis baie bekend is met die Internet en veral Netiket > nie, maar die gewone ou boere halstarrige hardkoppigheid is dalk 'n > meer waarskynlike rede? > Hoe dit ookal sy, ek weet hierdie is geen akademiese gesprekslys nie > (duh!!), maar dalk sal iemand hierdie boodskap wat deur iemand anders > geskryf was, ook insiggewend vind. > > From: Charles Muller > Subject: Netiquette: Top Posting > > "Top posting," a sort of non-style which is commonly seen in everyday > e-mail correspondence, occurs when you respond to a prior post by > simply hitting your reply button, writing at the top of the new > message screen, and leave the remnants of the prior message(s) at the > bottom unreferenced. > > There are a few reasons why this is seen to be undesirable--especially > on an academic discussion list--foremost among these being the > problems that are created in the process of archiving, and the > accessing of information by subsequent web searches. What happens is > that a year or so later, when someone looks for a key phrase in a web > search, one finds remnants of the same post over and over in different > messages in a confusing manner. > > Top posting is also considered by many to be impolite even in personal > correspondence, since, when top posting is avoided, the readers of > your messages do not need to wonder whether important content is to be > found below your signature. > > Therefore, when you write in response to a post on this forum, please > compose your message so that there is no additional text after your > own signature and then send it out. You can either delete the old > portions of the original post/prior discussion, or skillfully > incorporate them into your own response. > > The only exception to this case is when the remainder of the message > is specifically referenced data, or someone else's message, that you > are forwarding. > > While this distinction in style is still largely unknown on many > Humanities-oriented lists, bottom-posting is the de facto (and often > strictly-enforced) standard on most IT-related technical lists, the > participants of which often have a much longer history in professional > e-mail correspondence. > > You can find quite a bit on this topic with a simple Google search. > > >
> waarom is hierdie brief nie getoppost met die woorde: > "volg die voorbeeld van ons dierbare DD..." > of sê iets nie? > > DD > Ook maar lekker vol van jouself nè
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Die soort antwoord-struktuur is pretty standaard in al die nuusgroepe. On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 12:10:11 -0500, Katryn wrote: > Ek wonder baie keer waarom veral Afrikaanses so lief is om te "top > post". Mens sien dit veral in hierdie groep, en ander Afrikaanse > gespreksgroepe. > Een van die redes kan dalk wees omdat die meeste mense wat hier > deelneem nie juis baie bekend is met die Internet en veral Netiket > nie, maar die gewone ou boere halstarrige hardkoppigheid is dalk 'n > meer waarskynlike rede? > Hoe dit ookal sy, ek weet hierdie is geen akademiese gesprekslys nie > (duh!!), maar dalk sal iemand hierdie boodskap wat deur iemand anders > geskryf was, ook insiggewend vind. > > From: Charles Muller > Subject: Netiquette: Top Posting > > "Top posting," a sort of non-style which is commonly seen in everyday > e-mail correspondence, occurs when you respond to a prior post by > simply hitting your reply button, writing at the top of the new > message screen, and leave the remnants of the prior message(s) at the > bottom unreferenced. > > There are a few reasons why this is seen to be undesirable--especially > on an academic discussion list--foremost among these being the > problems that are created in the process of archiving, and the > accessing of information by subsequent web searches. What happens is > that a year or so later, when someone looks for a key phrase in a web > search, one finds remnants of the same post over and over in different > messages in a confusing manner. > > Top posting is also considered by many to be impolite even in personal > correspondence, since, when top posting is avoided, the readers of > your messages do not need to wonder whether important content is to be > found below your signature. > > Therefore, when you write in response to a post on this forum, please > compose your message so that there is no additional text after your > own signature and then send it out. You can either delete the old > portions of the original post/prior discussion, or skillfully > incorporate them into your own response. > > The only exception to this case is when the remainder of the message > is specifically referenced data, or someone else's message, that you > are forwarding. > > While this distinction in style is still largely unknown on many > Humanities-oriented lists, bottom-posting is the de facto (and often > strictly-enforced) standard on most IT-related technical lists, the > participants of which often have a much longer history in professional > e-mail correspondence. > > You can find quite a bit on this topic with a simple Google search. >
On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 10:18:35 +0100, "Max" wrote: > Kwessie van smaak... Ek verkies nuusgroeppostings bo aan! Ek soek nie graag > nie... Ja, ek het maar net gewonder. ;-) So ruk gelede het ek weer 'n lesing bygewoon van iemand wat navorsing doen op/oor mense en veral hulle intereaksies op Internet gespreksgroepe. Om die waarheid te sê het ek so 8 of 9 jaar gelede ook na haar gaan luister en ons het na die tyd baie lekker gesels. Toe het sy gesels spesifiek oor "Gender and Democracy in Computer-Mediated Communication" Destyds het sy veral gekonsentreer op die verskille tussen mans en vrouens en hule onderskeidelike kommunikasie etiek. Terloops, vogens haar is mans oor die algemeen meer "oop" om te leer uit gesprekke en is vrouens oor die algemeen geneig om 'n "know it all" en ek weet beter as jy en basta daarmee, houding te hê. Ek het lekker gelag toe ek dit hoor. Ek het haar teorie nou natuurlik vereenvoudig, en daar is darem gelukkig ook uitsonderings. ;-) Dit is nogal interessant veral hoe mense reageer op sekere ongeskrewe reëls en hoe groepe se "karakter" ontwikkel. Sy betoog o.a dat mense se reaksies en maniere van reageer het nogal baie te make met hulle persoonlikhede in die werklikheid ook. Nie dat dit 'n verrassing is nie, en dit is tot 'n mate logies ook. Nogsteeds....die top Posting issue was ook bespreek, en haar teorieë hieroor is fassinerend. > Wat ek wel bietjie verag is antwoorde sonder enige quote van waarop > geantwoord word. Ja, so het elkeen maar sy maniertjies en dingetjies van doen. Dit maak die ou lewe interessant. ;-)