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Misunderstanding
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description: Fellow NG enthusiasts I made the point of posting this message to related NG's for the simple reason that I think it is applicable to the NG's related to South Africa, Zimbabwe, UK and USA. Why? For the simple reasons that the story relates to South Africa and Zimbabwe because of the cultural / socio economic issues manifesting in these countries (as well as other African countries) and the influence the UK and the USA as power players have in this region. The current issue in Zimbabwe (Mugabe and the eviction of white farmers) and its effect on South Africa (where voices for the same actions are becoming louder and louder by the minute) is creating a stir in the world political and social development community. At least for those people interested in the topics. Leaders in Africa get their power to exercise their will on the continent mainly via referral power from the UK and USA. Example. Apartheid in South Africa was overthrown and brought down by die ANC getting sympathy from the constituencies (voters) of political decision makers in the UK and the USA during the struggle period. They did this by sending various intellectuals to universities and other forums to tell the people how awful things were under white rule. The world (specifically UK and USA) identified with these carefully chosen few and put pressure on their leaders to bring so called white rule in South Africa to an end. What you (UK and USA) did not contend with was the fact that Africa and its leaders are not the democratic, humanitarians you thought they were. That image was a falsely projected one which you unwittingly believed. Africa is now in turmoil as the leaders you trusted to save things are now stabbing you in the back and leading Africa into oblivion. Many things inspire this tyranny (mineral and monetary wealth the main reasons) and I fear there is no turning back. Africa is in serious trouble and you still make the mistake of thinking that Africa and its leaders think and do the way y…
creator: Nansen Passport
date: 2002-08-28T19:12:50-00:00

Re: Misunderstanding
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description: En toe koep die poender. Wat probeer die mannetjie nou eintlik tuisbring? Annette "Nansen Passport" skryf in boodskap news:3d6d2061.0@news1.mweb.co.za... > Fellow NG enthusiasts > > I made the point of posting this message to related NG's for the simple > reason that I think it is applicable to the NG's related to South Africa, > Zimbabwe, UK and USA. Why? For the simple reasons that the story relates to > South Africa and Zimbabwe because of the cultural / socio economic issues > manifesting in these countries (as well as other African countries) and the > influence the UK and the USA as power players have in this region. > > The current issue in Zimbabwe (Mugabe and the eviction of white farmers) and > its effect on South Africa (where voices for the same actions are becoming > louder and louder by the minute) is creating a stir in the world political > and social development community. At least for those people interested in > the topics. > > Leaders in Africa get their power to exercise their will on the continent > mainly via referral power from the UK and USA. Example. Apartheid in South > Africa was overthrown and brought down by die ANC getting sympathy from the > constituencies (voters) of political decision makers in the UK and the USA > during the struggle period. They did this by sending various intellectuals > to universities and other forums to tell the people how awful things were > under white rule. > > The world (specifically UK and USA) identified with these carefully chosen > few and put pressure on their leaders to bring so called white rule in South > Africa to an end. What you (UK and USA) did not contend with was the fact > that Africa and its leaders are not the democratic, humanitarians you > thought they were. That image was a falsely projected one which you > unwittingly believed. Africa is now in turmoil as the leaders you trusted to > save things are now stabbing you in the back and leading Africa into > oblivion. Many things inspire thi…
creator: Annette
date: 2002-08-28T20:47:46-00:00

Re: Misunderstanding
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description: Kyk na sy e-pos adres en ignoreer hom. Koot NS. Behoort die poender nie te HOEP nie? "Annette" skryf in boodskap news:akjd5m$1iugeu$1@ID-92016.news.dfncis.de... > En toe koep die poender. > Wat probeer die mannetjie nou eintlik tuisbring? > Annette > > > "Nansen Passport" wrote in message > news:3d6d2061.0@news1.mweb.co.za... >> Fellow NG enthusiasts >> >> I made the point of posting this message to related NG's for the simple >> reason that I think it is applicable to the NG's related to South Africa, >> Zimbabwe, UK and USA. Why? For the simple reasons that the story relates > to >> South Africa and Zimbabwe because of the cultural / socio economic issues >> manifesting in these countries (as well as other African countries) and > the >> influence the UK and the USA as power players have in this region. >> >> The current issue in Zimbabwe (Mugabe and the eviction of white farmers) > and >> its effect on South Africa (where voices for the same actions are becoming >> louder and louder by the minute) is creating a stir in the world political >> and social development community. At least for those people interested in >> the topics. >> >> Leaders in Africa get their power to exercise their will on the continent >> mainly via referral power from the UK and USA. Example. Apartheid in South >> Africa was overthrown and brought down by die ANC getting sympathy from > the >> constituencies (voters) of political decision makers in the UK and the USA >> during the struggle period. They did this by sending various intellectuals >> to universities and other forums to tell the people how awful things were >> under white rule. >> >> The world (specifically UK and USA) identified with these carefully chosen >> few and put pressure on their leaders to bring so called white rule in > South >> Africa to an end. What you (UK and USA) did not contend with was the fact >> that Africa and its leaders are not the democratic, humanitarians you >> thought they were. That image was a false…
creator: Koot Pieterse
date: 2002-08-29T06:11:43-00:00

Re: Misunderstanding
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description: Moes eintlik, maar ons het altyd van koep gepraat, anders is die afleiding te maklik:) Annette "Koot Pieterse" skryf in boodskap news:akkdtj$g8p$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net... > Kyk na sy e-pos adres en ignoreer hom. > Koot > > NS. Behoort die poender nie te HOEP nie? > > "Annette" wrote in message > news:akjd5m$1iugeu$1@ID-92016.news.dfncis.de... >> En toe koep die poender. >> Wat probeer die mannetjie nou eintlik tuisbring? >> Annette >> >> >> "Nansen Passport" wrote in message >> news:3d6d2061.0@news1.mweb.co.za... >>> Fellow NG enthusiasts >>> >>> I made the point of posting this message to related NG's for the simple >>> reason that I think it is applicable to the NG's related to South > Africa, >>> Zimbabwe, UK and USA. Why? For the simple reasons that the story relates >> to >>> South Africa and Zimbabwe because of the cultural / socio economic > issues >>> manifesting in these countries (as well as other African countries) and >> the >>> influence the UK and the USA as power players have in this region. >>> >>> The current issue in Zimbabwe (Mugabe and the eviction of white farmers) >> and >>> its effect on South Africa (where voices for the same actions are > becoming >>> louder and louder by the minute) is creating a stir in the world > political >>> and social development community. At least for those people interested > in >>> the topics. >>> >>> Leaders in Africa get their power to exercise their will on the > continent >>> mainly via referral power from the UK and USA. Example. Apartheid in > South >>> Africa was overthrown and brought down by die ANC getting sympathy from >> the >>> constituencies (voters) of political decision makers in the UK and the > USA >>> during the struggle period. They did this by sending various > intellectuals >>> to universities and other forums to tell the people how awful things > were >>> under white rule. >>> >>> The world (specifically UK and USA) identified with these carefully > chosen >>> few and put pressure on their lea…
creator: Annette
date: 2002-08-29T06:22:27-00:00

Re: Misunderstanding
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description: Kom ek probeer verduidelik. Die ingelykheid in Suid Afrika word baie deur westerse navorsers toegeskryf aan Apartheid of diskriminerende gedrag van wit mense teenoor anders rassiges. Die waarheid is bietjie meer kompleks as dit. Die waarheid is dat die wit gemeenskappe in Suid Afrika en Zimbabwe het westerse kulture en die boorlinge van Afrika het nie. Die westerse kultuur het homself al lankal bewys as om hom te leen tot spoedige ontwikkeling (soms tot die skade van die natuur, maar nietemin ontwikkeling) en vooruitgang. Vir Europese waarnemers lyk die verskil in lewenskawliteit op die oog af toeskryfbaar te wees aan diskriminasie, maar die waarheid is egter dieper gelee in die feit dat die blankes 'n ander kultuur nastreef. Dus is die ongelykheid verkeerdelik toegeskryf aan diskriminasie (nie dat dit nie bestaan het nie, maar ek is bereid om te argumenteer dat die effek daarvan minder was as wat voorgehou word) en die resulterende oplossings wat voorgestel word gaan dus nie die probleem oplos nie. Die gemiddelde Afrikaan is nie 'n westerling met 'n swart vel nie. Dis die idee wat westerling (met ander woorde Europa en Amerika) het van Afrikane, omdat Mandela, Mbeki en almal waarmee hulle te doen kry daardie beeld uitstraal. Wat ek nou sê klink verstaanbaar rasisties (al is dit nie) maar dit maak dit nie minder waar nie. Ek glo nie in die term rassisme nie. Wat ons as rassisme bestempel is inderwaarheid kulturalisme. Rassisme bestaan nie. Jy kan slegs iemand opgrond van sy velkleur haat omdat jy iets slegs met hom vereenselwig. In alle gevalle is dit 'n kultuur kwessie. Die grondliggende sondaar is kultuur verskille. Ek kan dit nie genoeg uitwys nie. Opreg Nansen Passport NS. Daar is 'n goeie rede waarom ek anoniem is. Ek vra omverskoning vir die feit dat dit so moet wees, maar dit is nodig. Ek is nie 'n ekstremis nie. Ek is ook nie teen swart of wit mense nie. Ek glo ek is 'n logiese mens wat 'n begrip vir die wêreld waarin ek leef wil kweek. Dus vra ek u om asseb…
creator: Nansen Passport
date: 2002-08-29T09:58:19-00:00

Re: Misunderstanding
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description: your point? "Nansen Passport" skryf in boodskap news:3d6d2061.0@news1.mweb.co.za... > Fellow NG enthusiasts > > I made the point of posting this message to related NG's for the simple > reason that I think it is applicable to the NG's related to South Africa, > Zimbabwe, UK and USA. Why? For the simple reasons that the story relates to > South Africa and Zimbabwe because of the cultural / socio economic issues > manifesting in these countries (as well as other African countries) and the > influence the UK and the USA as power players have in this region. > > The current issue in Zimbabwe (Mugabe and the eviction of white farmers) and > its effect on South Africa (where voices for the same actions are becoming > louder and louder by the minute) is creating a stir in the world political > and social development community. At least for those people interested in > the topics. > > Leaders in Africa get their power to exercise their will on the continent > mainly via referral power from the UK and USA. Example. Apartheid in South > Africa was overthrown and brought down by die ANC getting sympathy from the > constituencies (voters) of political decision makers in the UK and the USA > during the struggle period. They did this by sending various intellectuals > to universities and other forums to tell the people how awful things were > under white rule. > > The world (specifically UK and USA) identified with these carefully chosen > few and put pressure on their leaders to bring so called white rule in South > Africa to an end. What you (UK and USA) did not contend with was the fact > that Africa and its leaders are not the democratic, humanitarians you > thought they were. That image was a falsely projected one which you > unwittingly believed. Africa is now in turmoil as the leaders you trusted to > save things are now stabbing you in the back and leading Africa into > oblivion. Many things inspire this tyranny (mineral and monetary wealth the > main reasons) and I fear …
creator: Francois Human
date: 2002-09-01T21:51:57-00:00

Re: Misunderstanding
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description: Julle Kapenaars het meer class as wat goed is vir julle. "Annette" skryf in boodskap news:akkeja$1jh2u6$1@ID-92016.news.dfncis.de... > Moes eintlik, maar ons het altyd van koep gepraat, anders is die afleiding > te maklik:) > Annette > > > > "Koot Pieterse" wrote in message > news:akkdtj$g8p$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net... >> Kyk na sy e-pos adres en ignoreer hom. >> Koot >> >> NS. Behoort die poender nie te HOEP nie? >> >> "Annette" wrote in message >> news:akjd5m$1iugeu$1@ID-92016.news.dfncis.de... >>> En toe koep die poender. >>> Wat probeer die mannetjie nou eintlik tuisbring? >>> Annette >>> >>> >>> "Nansen Passport" wrote in message >>> news:3d6d2061.0@news1.mweb.co.za... >>>> Fellow NG enthusiasts >>>> >>>> I made the point of posting this message to related NG's for the > simple >>>> reason that I think it is applicable to the NG's related to South >> Africa, >>>> Zimbabwe, UK and USA. Why? For the simple reasons that the story > relates >>> to >>>> South Africa and Zimbabwe because of the cultural / socio economic >> issues >>>> manifesting in these countries (as well as other African countries) > and >>> the >>>> influence the UK and the USA as power players have in this region. >>>> >>>> The current issue in Zimbabwe (Mugabe and the eviction of white > farmers) >>> and >>>> its effect on South Africa (where voices for the same actions are >> becoming >>>> louder and louder by the minute) is creating a stir in the world >> political >>>> and social development community. At least for those people interested >> in >>>> the topics. >>>> >>>> Leaders in Africa get their power to exercise their will on the >> continent >>>> mainly via referral power from the UK and USA. Example. Apartheid in >> South >>>> Africa was overthrown and brought down by die ANC getting sympathy > from >>> the >>>> constituencies (voters) of political decision makers in the UK and the >> USA >>>> during the struggle period. They did this by sending various >> intellectuals >>>> to universitie…
creator: Koot Pieterse
date: 2002-09-06T11:04:30-00:00

Re: Misunderstanding
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description: Haai Koot!! Dankie vir die wonderlike kompliment:))) Annette "Koot Pieterse" skryf in boodskap news:ala23i$f6d$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net... > Julle Kapenaars het meer class as wat goed is vir julle. > > "Annette" wrote in message > news:akkeja$1jh2u6$1@ID-92016.news.dfncis.de... >> Moes eintlik, maar ons het altyd van koep gepraat, anders is die afleiding >> te maklik:) >> Annette >> >> >> >> "Koot Pieterse" wrote in message >> news:akkdtj$g8p$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net... >>> Kyk na sy e-pos adres en ignoreer hom. >>> Koot >>> >>> NS. Behoort die poender nie te HOEP nie? >>> >>> "Annette" wrote in message >>> news:akjd5m$1iugeu$1@ID-92016.news.dfncis.de... >>>> En toe koep die poender. >>>> Wat probeer die mannetjie nou eintlik tuisbring? >>>> Annette >>>> >>>> >>>> "Nansen Passport" wrote in message >>>> news:3d6d2061.0@news1.mweb.co.za... >>>> > Fellow NG enthusiasts >>>> > >>>> > I made the point of posting this message to related NG's for the >> simple >>>> > reason that I think it is applicable to the NG's related to South >>> Africa, >>>> > Zimbabwe, UK and USA. Why? For the simple reasons that the story >> relates >>>> to >>>> > South Africa and Zimbabwe because of the cultural / socio economic >>> issues >>>> > manifesting in these countries (as well as other African countries) >> and >>>> the >>>> > influence the UK and the USA as power players have in this region. >>>> > >>>> > The current issue in Zimbabwe (Mugabe and the eviction of white >> farmers) >>>> and >>>> > its effect on South Africa (where voices for the same actions are >>> becoming >>>> > louder and louder by the minute) is creating a stir in the world >>> political >>>> > and social development community. At least for those people > interested >>> in >>>> > the topics. >>>> > >>>> > Leaders in Africa get their power to exercise their will on the >>> continent >>>> > mainly via referral power from the UK and USA. Example. Apartheid in >>> South >>>> > Africa was overthrown and brought down by die ANC g…
creator: Annette
date: 2002-09-06T11:06:41-00:00